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January 20, 2012 2:45:06 PM

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CPU
Intel i7 2700K (or 2600K)

Mobo
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3

Ram
G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply
Corsair AX850

HDD
Western Digital Caviar Black 2TB

Optical Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor
Dell U2412M

Now i need help on SSD, GPU,cooler and case.I planed getting:
Cooler
which one: Thermalright Silver Arrow(unavailable in newegg) or Noctua NH-D14

GPU:
MSI 580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition but it's unavailable on newegg
(I want a single GPU build and prefer 580GTX or at least NVIDIA)

SSD:
OCZ Vertex 3 240GB but negative feedback on newegg
(SSD must be 240 GB)

Case:
Xigmatek Elysium has good reviews and feedback but nobody recommend it.

Do i missing any essential part above???
And is there any recommend tool needed to assembling a computer
And i want to buy all on newegg

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January 20, 2012 3:13:42 PM

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Now i need help on SSD, GPU,cooler and case.I planed getting:
Cooler
which one: Thermalright Silver Arrow(unavailable in newegg) or Noctua NH-D14


I wouldn't recommend either - most of these gigantic fans are a bit ridiculous. I had the Silver Arrow and it wasn't doing the job it was supposed to do, and I finally wound up replacing it with the EVGA M020 which so far has been keeping my system 10'C cooler. The problem with these gigantic fans and heat sinks is that not every case can fit them and when you do it makes upgrading and replacing CPUs more of a chore than it needs to be. If you're paying that much I'd recommend either a Corsair H100 or go with a smaller and more efficient fan like the Noctua NH-U9B.

I've tried tons of different fans - I had the worst results with the Xigmatek Gaia (too many temp read errors) and the Silver Arrow (overheating issues). I've had the best results so far with the EVGA M020 (35'C on idle) and the Cooler Master Hyper 212 (27'C on idle, 30'C on full use).

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Case:
Xigmatek Elysium has good reviews and feedback but nobody recommend it.


I wouldn't recommend it either. I don't like Xigmatek products as one of their CPU fans fried a motherboard I was using.

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MSI 580GTX Lightning Xtreme Edition but it's unavailable on newegg
(I want a single GPU build and prefer 580GTX or at least NVIDIA)


I'm personally not a fan of MSI in the slightest. If you have to go with NVIDIA I'd pick EVGA over MSI in a heart beat. Otherwise I'd be way more inclined to recommend the 7970.

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SSD:
OCZ Vertex 3 240GB but negative feedback on newegg
(SSD must be 240 GB)


I honestly do not think that a 240GB SSD is a good idea because of the ridiculous cost of the drive - you're looking at nearly 1/4 of your budget just on the drive alone. You're better off going with a smaller SSD and pairing that with a 1 or 2 TB secondary HD.

Try this build:

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R - $99.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII - $149.99
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68 Deluxe V2 - $259.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - $229.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $44.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $46.99
SSD: Samsung 830 64GB - $119.99
HD: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 5400RPM - $129.99
Optical: Lite On 24X DVD Burner - $17.99
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 - *OR* - EVGA Geforce GTX 580 3GB - $549.99
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit - $99.99

Total: $1936.84
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January 20, 2012 3:17:33 PM

The case Xigmatek Elysium looks great and have good reviews.
This SSD have great feedback : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ill recomend you this Corsair case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any of the cpu coolers are good , you can go wrong with any of them. I have another good option Zalman : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 20, 2012 3:37:25 PM

i7 2600k $320
Asrock extreme3 gen3 $122
GTX 580 $550 or 7970
8gb kingston Hyper X 1333 $40
Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$100
Crucial m4 256gb $375 or Crucial M4 128gb $180
Cavier Blue 500gb 7200rpm $100
Case: you choose around $100
CPU fan: CM cooler 212 $30

Total: $1542 w/ 128gb SSD.

Price of HDD's are too expensive, just get a 500gb and upgrade later, like in a couple months, then for $100 get like a 2tb. 7970 does have better performance than the GTX 580, but if you prefer NVidia, thats fine too. SSD's price is a bit expensive now, so i would recommend just getting a 128gb. Microcenter has cheaper CPU prices if you live near one.
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January 20, 2012 3:37:49 PM

Also the Crucial M4 is one of the most stable SSDs out on the market now.
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January 20, 2012 3:43:04 PM

sosofm said:
The case Xigmatek Elysium looks great and have good reviews.
This SSD have great feedback : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ill recomend you this Corsair case : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Any of the cpu coolers are good , you can go wrong with any of them. I have another good option Zalman : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I had decent results with a Zalman fan. They're OK but I'd rather recommend the Hyper 212 or M020 over those.

You don't need a case as big as the Elysium if you're not running an XL-ATX motherboard (few people are even).

The Carbide actually gets better air flow results than the 650D does and it's $100 cheaper.
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January 20, 2012 4:00:49 PM

Keep in mind that if you do go with the NH-D14 or Silver Arrow the RAM you've selected is going to be a problem. You need low profile ram like the Corsair XMS series.

The Silver Arrow is probably the better of the two coolers although either one is going to surpass pre-fab water loops.

There's no benefit with going with the 2700k if you're going to overclock. It's the same exact chip as the 2600k (not even higher binned) that's just been given a higher multiplier at the factory.

I also concur with what's being said about the 240GB SSDs. They're just not worth the premium. At the very least I'd go with 2x 120GB drives in a RAID0 config off the Intel 6Gb/s controllers. You'll end up with the same space and twice the performance.


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January 20, 2012 4:07:20 PM

a4mula said:
Keep in mind that if you do go with the NH-D14 or Silver Arrow the RAM you've selected is going to be a problem. You need low profile ram like the Corsair XMS series.

The Silver Arrow is probably the better of the two coolers although either one is going to surpass pre-fab water loops.

There's no benefit with going with the 2700k if you're going to overclock. It's the same exact chip as the 2600k (not even higher binned) that's just been given a higher multiplier at the factory.

I also concur with what's being said about the 240GB SSDs. They're just not worth the premium. At the very least I'd go with 2x 120GB drives in a RAID0 config off the Intel 6Gb/s controllers. You'll end up with the same space and twice the performance.


I generally don't recommend pre-fab water loops because I'm not a fan of liquid cooling but if the OP is going to spend the money on a $100 heat sink, I find the H100 is a far better option than the D14 because it will make upgrading and replacing CPUs far easier than the D14 or Silver Arrow will. After all the overheating issues I've had with those huge fans, I'm done with the double heat sinks. If you get a smaller fan like the Hyper 212 Evo and attach a second fan to it you'll get the same results and it's 1/2 the cost.

I also agree about the 2700K - why pay for a $400 CPU when you can get a $220 one and OC it and get the same results? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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January 20, 2012 4:08:04 PM

i72600k
MSi GTX580 Lightning Xtreme Edition 3GB/ MSi N560GTX-TI Twin Froxr II/OC 2GB
Corsair AX850W
MSi Z68A-GD80 (G3)(Gen3) Mobo
G.SKILL Sniper/RipjawsX 2x4gb (8GB) or if you want go 16GB
corsair force gt 120GB 6gb/s SATAIII SSD is enough or any equivalent 120/128GB SSD
1TB Seagate should serve you well or if it's in the same price get teh WDCB 1TB
CPU Cooler i suggest the Noctua NH-D14 if your getting a big chassis
and for the chassis heres a nice one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... for 129.99$
or get the black one same price at 129.99$ you can hardly go wrong with corsair, besides the ssd part, although i use their ssd my self and so far got no problems
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January 20, 2012 4:09:21 PM

oh for the ram, the G.SKILL RipjawsX 8gb (4x2) works well with the noctua nh-d14, and if you can see that the sniper edition is the same size then it will fit well so no worries

btw im not sure if the noctua fan fit in that case i put up there but if not just get the hyper 212 evo/+or whichever ones available, or get the corsair h100
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January 20, 2012 4:21:55 PM

Should i wait for Nvidia 600 series and Ivy Bridge ????


And a little flashback from my earlier post in this forum
JackNaylorPE said:
Cooler - High end coolers are really not needed on Sandy Bridge. H100 has great performance but in fact no better than the better air coolers such as the equally loud V6 GT and almost dead silent Silver Arrow..

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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It's almost ironic that [air] coolers like this are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling. Still, it wouldn't hurt, and as I noted earlier, there are still CPUs out there that can benefit from it.


The Silver Arrow for example matches / exceeds the H100's performance unless ya push pull some very load fans and the Silver Arrow's stock fans very quiet.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/corsai...
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/corsai...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?2739...



Does NH-D14 fit in Corsair T600 ???
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January 20, 2012 4:35:58 PM

don't overlook the samsung 830 SSD, great product
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