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January 20, 2012 5:13:02 PM

:hello:  Any help/commentary would be great! :hello: 

Approximate Purchase Date: By January 31, 2012

Budget Range: ~$2000 or less, semi-flexible.

System Usage: Primary: Gaming Secondary: General Use (Internet, Work, etc)

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Speakers

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.com, Amazon.com

Country: Pennsylvania, USA

Parts Preferences: Brand name

Overclocking: Not likely (Slight possibility down the road)

SLI or Crossfire: Not anytime soon

Monitor Resolution: Planning on 1980x1080 (See selected parts)

Additional Comments: I've selected most of the parts I'm aiming for.. I really want to confirm from people that know more than me (that's you!) that I'm heading in the right direction. ALL opinions/suggestions are welcome. I'm new to this, although I've done a good amount of research. If anything here is in some way not compatable I'd certainly like to know it! Also.. bottlenecking issues would be great to hear about if there are any. Thanks so much!



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Current Parts:

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$319.99

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$204.99

Memory: 4x Patriot Viper Xtreme 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PX34G1600LL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$103.96

SSD: Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$199.99

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99

Graphics: EVGA 025-P3-1579-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) HD 2560MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$394.99

Case: Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Unbeatable Gaming Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.99

Power Supply: Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Exclusively for - Twelve Hundred(1200)/P183/P193/DF-85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$149.99

CPU Fan: GELID Solutions CC-GX7-01-A 120mm Nanoflux Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$64.99

Monitor: ASUS VE248H 24-Inch LED Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE248H-24-Inch-LED-Monitor/d...
$169.99

CD/DVD: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$23.99

Total: $1952.86 (Will be slightly less with Amazon sources, ~$1900)

For some of these I found identical pieces slightly cheaper on Amazon, however, I unfortunately don't have that list where I am at the moment.


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January 20, 2012 6:05:39 PM

If the computer is going to be used mostly for gaming then I would suggest that you go wit hthe Intel Core i5-2500k instead of the i7 unless you are doing alot of video editing or running programs that require hyperthreading (games do not use hyperthreading) the i7 is just a waist of $100, the i5 will be more than plenty for gaming
January 20, 2012 6:06:25 PM

with the* waste* lol
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January 20, 2012 6:44:37 PM

i5 2500k seems like the best choice as far as gaming goes if you going to overclock if not go with the i5 2500. I am also getting ready to build a new machine as well and that is what I went with.

Maybe consider a cheaper CPU cooler as well.
This one is cheap and works very well. Check out some of the reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Use the saved money to get the new 7950 that releases January 31st.

Also if your not going to do xfire of SLI then you probably don't need a 1000w PS maybe you can fit in 8gbs of RAM with some of the saved money as well.
January 20, 2012 7:06:55 PM

You all have been helpful thus far, thank you!

I currently have a set up that includes 16GB of RAM.

I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on that graphics card. I know the GTX 570 is a pretty popular card, however, what are the merits (if any) of the double memory on it as opposed to the stock which sits at 1.3GB?
January 20, 2012 7:09:24 PM

I agree with lukehouse356; the i7-2600k is essentially an i5-2500k with HyperThreading, which you don't need for your uses. Save the $100 and bump up your graphics performance to something like this: EVGA Superclocked GTX 580 or Radeon HD 7970
These are the two strongest single-GPU offerings from AMD and NVidia, and the merits of double memory arise when you play games that need a lot of VRAM (BF3, Skyrim, things with massive maps) or when you decide to go multi-monitor, as more monitors need more VRAM. SLI/Crossfire also benefit from more VRAM per card, because two 1.5GB cards working in tandem only use 1.5 GB.

Also, you don't need 16GB of RAM unless you're going to be doing something like virtualization or high-end photo/video editing. 8GB is plenty, and you can save a quick $50 that way.

The SSD you've chosen is a nice SSD, but it runs at SATAII speeds; you can change to this SSD and get SATAIII speeds (in some cases twice as fast) for the same money (plus 8GB more!).

It's a very nice build, just keep in mind what you want to do with it :) 
January 20, 2012 8:24:13 PM

I definitely will switch up that SSD.. thanks, that is a great find and good information.

I do play a lot of games like Skyrim, should I stick with the extra VRAM?

Do you think I will gain any benefits for games that come out in the next year or so by sticking with 16GB of RAM just so I simply don't have to upgrade/buy more later?

Also, can anyone verify that the RAM I have chosen at the moment is compatible with my motherboard? I just want to make sure, I was reading something about it having to be dual channel and I couldn't find anywhere that it said that that kind of RAM was dual channel (the whole dual channel thing is just somewhat confusing in general..)

Thanks and keep bringing on the responses!

January 21, 2012 8:27:24 AM

for VRAM,yes
for RAM,no.games don't need any more than 4GB(if background processes are closed)
8GB is my recommendation.
corsair vengeance is good choice.
January 21, 2012 9:25:49 AM

Switch the i7 2600k to i5 2500k, same performance in gaming
Switch that 4 GB Ram to a 8 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz Cas 9 1.5V, buy these 2 combo will save you 170 USD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Switch the Intel SSD 320 120 GB to a Kingston HyperX 120 GB SSD to gain a lot more performance and save 40 bucks after $55MIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Put the 210 bucks saving from those 3 into a HD 7970 3 GB video card.
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Radeon-7970-GDDR5-Video/dp/B0...

Now you have an incredible fast gaming machine that is ready for anything.
January 22, 2012 3:00:37 AM

Thanks so much thus far for all of your input. I'm still considering a lot of those pieces and haven't decided one way or another yet..

Here's an updated configuration. I'd appreciate your responses/comments/suggestions!


CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


SSD: Samsung 830 - Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 128 GB 2.5 Inch SATA III MLC Internal SSD Desktop Kit with Norton Ghost 15
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD7502AAEX 750GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CD/DVD: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Graphics: EVGA 025-P3-1579-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) HD 2560MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Case: Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower Unbeatable Gaming Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Power Supply: Antec CP-1000 1000W Continuous ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Exclusively for - Twelve Hundred(1200)/P183/P193/DF-85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


CPU Fan: GELID Solutions CC-GX7-01-A 120mm Nanoflux Bearing CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Monitors: ASUS VE248H 24-Inch LED Monitor
http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VE248H-24-Inch-LED-Monitor/d...


ASUS VS Series VS247H-P Black 23.6" 2ms LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 50000000:1 (ASCR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Memory: [8GB] 2x Patriot Viper Xtreme 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PX34G1600LL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As well as more overall reviews, I'd like to get some more opinions on this comparison:
Kingston HyperX SH100S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Stand-alone Drive)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

vs.

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not sure which performance factors are more important.. the max sequential read/write or the 4KB random read/write..
January 22, 2012 4:24:19 AM

both ssds are good.i vote for hyper X.that case is huuuuugeeee!!!!!!! and a bit expensive too.nzxt phantom is one of my favorite.and it's $125.that psu is way overkill for your setup,it is not much efficient.a quality 850w-900w would more than enough.here are some suggestions-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
BTW if you can wait till 31 JAN,HD 7950 would be a better choice ;) 
January 22, 2012 4:29:08 AM

Crush3d said:

As well as more overall reviews, I'd like to get some more opinions on this comparison:
Kingston HyperX SH100S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Stand-alone Drive)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

vs.

SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm not sure which performance factors are more important.. the max sequential read/write or the 4KB random read/write..


The 4k random read/write is more important since it represents the everyday usage of a typical computer. The sequential read/write is important when you transfer large files like videos and other media files.

Sequential read/write: Kingston HyperX 120 GB clearly wins
4k random read/write: Tie since the Samsung 830 has much faster read but much slower write.
Price: Kingston Hyperx clearly wins since its significantly cheaper

This shouldn't be difficult to choose, get the Kingston SSD and get the extra money into a better graphics card, HD 7970 as I suggested above. The video card is the heart of a gaming computer, don't skim on it, you will regret it later on.

Also, you dont need that 8 GB Viper Extreme memory, you will see NO difference in gaming or whatsoever going for that memory, get the DDR3 1600 Mhz CAS 9 1.5V in the link I posted in the previous thread as a combo with the i5 2500k to save more money to invest in other components that WILL make a difference such as video card or Power Supply.
January 22, 2012 5:13:05 AM

i agree with above thing.DDR3 1600 is enough.hyperX,vengeance and ripjaws a re popular RAMs
January 22, 2012 3:08:44 PM

I was under the impression that the "teeth" on top of the memory sticks that I have been looking at were added to keep their temperature down.. I know "back in the day" the memory I used to use did not have them and the memory suggested above also does not have them.. Is the lack of that component to the memory a potential issue with heating or is it more so there for a small amount of heat reduction coupled primarily for aesthetic appeal?

Also, I don't think I have the patience to wait for the 7970.. Is there a better option for the price than the GTX 570 2.5GB for ~$350-500 dollars (and a bit more if you can truly justify it) that is readily available on the market right now?

Definitely looking into the GTX 580 Superclocked ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) as suggested above. Is the $110 increase justified?
January 22, 2012 9:51:08 PM

Crush3d said:
I was under the impression that the "teeth" on top of the memory sticks that I have been looking at were added to keep their temperature down.. I know "back in the day" the memory I used to use did not have them and the memory suggested above also does not have them.. Is the lack of that component to the memory a potential issue with heating or is it more so there for a small amount of heat reduction coupled primarily for aesthetic appeal?

Also, I don't think I have the patience to wait for the 7970.. Is there a better option for the price than the GTX 570 2.5GB for ~$350-500 dollars (and a bit more if you can truly justify it) that is readily available on the market right now?

Definitely looking into the GTX 580 Superclocked ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) as suggested above. Is the $110 increase justified?


HD 7970 is in stock at amazon, sold by circuit city, there is no waiting.
http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Radeon-7970-GDDR5-Video/dp/B0...
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