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Record pc game with a capture card?

i'm wondering what is the solution to record full hd/sound full screen of a PC gameplay without having the slightest lag from it, obviously software recording like fraps will give you tons of lag, so i wonder maybe a capture card? but i'm not sure which one i should buy since most of them are used for TV/ps3/xbox recording.

i want to record some bf3 footage, usually i get about 100+fps in game but fraps brings it down to 45ish which to me is unaplayable...
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  1. Fraps take 10-25% off your fps. Its still the best solution.
  2. are there any solution that doesnt take away any fps?
  3. My opinion: Fraps will take away some fps but does not create any lag... at least not on my system. It is definitely hands down the best and easiest way to record pc gameplay. I have plenty of cash and I went with Fraps. I'm surprised to hear that Fraps decreases your fps by over 50%.
  4. To clarify what I meant by "I have plenty of cash and I went with Fraps"... I considered and could have gone with more expensive options but chose Fraps which was cheaper and better (for me).
  5. I use FRAPS myself
    but
    theoritically if you have a GPU with S-Video out and a TV Capture
    with S-Video in you could possibly record your direct video output

    The capture software should just see it as another input

    but when you are recording the monitor video capture you could lose FPS due to CPU usage
    though usually TV capture cards have their own M-PEG hardware encoder/decoder to lessen CPU load

    there still is a chance that you could lose FPS with TV capture
    and it is cheaper to go with FRAPS
    if you dont have the necessary hardware already
    I have a minimal gaming system (Core2 Duo 3ghz/HD 5670) and FRAPS doesnt lesen FPS for me enough to really notice


    (FYI I use a ATI capture card for cable tv and vcr-dvd conversions)
  6. if you want to record video only then you can use msi afterburn with minimal loss of fps and is free
  7. chefjc said:
    To clarify what I meant by "I have plenty of cash and I went with Fraps"... I considered and could have gone with more expensive options but chose Fraps which was cheaper and better (for me).


    what are the more expensive options?

    and when you guys record with fraps, you set ur video fps to what? 100fps? because if you set at 60, it will bring ur game to 60 fps when you record, which is annoyingly laggy...
  8. there is now way the OP should be going from 100fps to 45ish because of FRAPS
    it doesnt rob FPS that bad
    it only takes about 5 FPS off when I use
    OP check your settings in FRAPS
    sounds like you are doing something wrong

    also if money is not a concern
    get a second GPU to run in the second PCIe slot
    make sure it has Svideo out
    then get a TV Capture card with Svideo in

    then just record with the video capture
    with a 2600k OCd it isnt going to slow the game down noticeably
    and BTW nobodys eyes are good enough to notice the difference between
    100FPS and 60FPS
    not scientifically possible
    regular video is 29.97 FPS
    and in games once you get over a steady 40 FPS the human eye just cant see the difference between 60fps and 100fps
    Basic Biology 101
    brain cant process it
  9. king smp said:
    there is now way the OP should be going from 100fps to 45ish because of FRAPS
    it doesnt rob FPS that bad
    it only takes about 5 FPS off when I use
    OP check your settings in FRAPS
    sounds like you are doing something wrong

    also if money is not a concern
    get a second GPU to run in the second PCIe slot
    make sure it has Svideo out
    then get a TV Capture card with Svideo in

    then just record with the video capture
    with a 2600k OCd it isnt going to slow the game down noticeably
    and BTW nobodys eyes are good enough to notice the difference between
    100FPS and 60FPS
    not scientifically possible
    regular video is 29.97 FPS
    and in games once you get over a steady 40 FPS the human eye just cant see the difference between 60fps and 100fps
    Basic Biology 101
    brain cant process it



    ill check out see if somethings wrong with my fraps, other than that what fps do you get before and during recording of a game? and which game.

    human eye cant see above 60fps doesnt mean you dont feel it, i can tell the difference between 100fps and 120fps, its all about what your body is adopted to.
  10. Could anyone explain why when i put fraps onto 100fps my game when recording gives out amazing performance, but when i put fraps onto 30fps or 60fps it brings it down, and i get 15fps. It is very confusing....
  11. ibanezrg2550 said:
    ...i can tell the difference between 100fps and 120fps...


    You're flatout lying. I guess you would also have people believing you're superman.

    Several tests prove otherwise.

    Sorry.
  12. im sorry, do u even have a 120hz monitor? obviously you dont, are you even good at games? obviously you are not, so dont tell me I'm lying, go ask someone who's been playing on a 120hz monitor and set it to 100hz, see if they can tell a difference, before that why dont you shut your ignorance mouth
  13. ibanezrg2550 said:
    im sorry, do u even have a 120hz monitor? obviously you dont, are you even good at games? obviously you are not, so dont tell me I'm lying, go ask someone who's been playing on a 120hz monitor and set it to 100hz, see if they can tell a difference, before that why dont you shut your ignorance mouth


    Ok here is something i found for you to read

    FPS on the other hand is generally a measurement of the output of a video card. the more complicated the scene, the lower the FPS; generally speaking.

    While it's true that a higher FPS then your monitors Hz rating is typically useless, higher Hz often makes fora clearer, sharper, more stable picture, so it is not to be ignored
  14. ibanezrg2550 said:
    im sorry, do u even have a 120hz monitor? obviously you dont, are you even good at games? obviously you are not, so dont tell me I'm lying, go ask someone who's been playing on a 120hz monitor and set it to 100hz, see if they can tell a difference, before that why dont you shut your ignorance mouth


    I have a 75Hz monitor and cannot tell a difference past 60fps. From 60fps to 75fps it looks the same.

    Am I to believe that you can tell a difference at double the point I can?

    It's a bird, it's a plane, it's...Superman!

    No, it's self delusion.
  15. Fraps plain out sucks for recording compared to Dxtory... Much less hit using this proggie.

    Try it and thank me later :P

    ALSO... if you want even less of a hit from any recording software use an SSD drive.
  16. Also if you're stuck on Fraps this might help you

    http://youtu.be/bEGDgzlc7mA
  17. thank you very much fah_q
    I was giving up hope on this thread with the childish bickering
    that is some really good info
    If I was the OP I would seriously be considering you for the Best Answer :)

    BTW nice rig you have-great choices on components
  18. king smp said:

    I was giving up hope on this thread with the childish bickering
    I simply posted facts, and was blown up on.

    And fraps is by far and away the best way to record games.

    king smp said:
    ...If I was the OP...
    You mean the one who has been doing all the childish bickering?
  19. Hee hee yeah LOL
    If the OP thinks they can see a difference
    whether they really can or not
    their perception of their system and how it runs is their own business
    if the games dont look good to the OP
    doesnt matter why
    the fact is they dont look good to him
    I personally dont think that at higher FPS anybody can really tell the difference
    the human eye and brain just arent set up that way
    but if the OP doesnt like the way the games plays
    then that is what matters
    I enjoy games at 30FPS
    but also I wear thick glasses
    and I dont think that AA is necessary at a 1920x1080 res I play at
    really with new games with the improved graphics and at 1920x1080
    AA isnt needed like it used to be
    but also
    that is my opinion
    and I could be wrong......
  20. king smp said:
    Hee hee yeah LOL
    If the OP thinks they can see a difference
    whether they really can or not
    their perception of their system and how it runs is their own business
    if the games dont look good to the OP
    doesnt matter why
    the fact is they dont look good to him
    I personally dont think that at higher FPS anybody can really tell the difference
    the human eye and brain just arent set up that way
    but if the OP doesnt like the way the games plays
    then that is what matters
    I enjoy games at 30FPS
    but also I wear thick glasses
    and I dont think that AA is necessary at a 1920x1080 res I play at
    really with new games with the improved graphics and at 1920x1080
    AA isnt needed like it used to be
    but also
    that is my opinion
    and I could be wrong......


    You are most certainly NOT wrong. AA is a complete waste of resources in 1080p and above. And this coming from someone with a powerful rig who could easily use full AA and still maintain a playable frame rate.

    In 1080p, you have literally millions more pixels. The jagged edges are almost completely non-existent when you have so many pixels to render the edges much more smoothly. So I guess in essence, depending upon how you look at it, AA simulates the effect playing in a high definition would do for the jagged edges. So it becomes very pointless to use AA when the definition is very high to begin with, and the pixels are so small that the jaggies themselves are almost unrecognizable to the naked eye. That is pointless to do, but to do so at the loss of performance isn't pointless, that is madness. And stupid. But some people want so very badly to be elitists. They are actually quite pitiful, and I both loathe them and feel sorry for them.

    And I also believe that anyone who believes that they can detect a difference between 100 frames being rendered in a second and 120 frames being rendered in a second are at worst lying, and at best, deluded.
  21. ibanezrg2550 said:
    i'm wondering what is the solution to record full hd/sound full screen of a PC gameplay without having the slightest lag from it, obviously software recording like fraps will give you tons of lag, so i wonder maybe a capture card? but i'm not sure which one i should buy since most of them are used for TV/ps3/xbox recording.

    i want to record some bf3 footage, usually i get about 100+fps in game but fraps brings it down to 45ish which to me is unaplayable...


    I also was shopping for a capture card and read this entire thread to see what input was given. It's sad that nobody suggested a single capture card, but instead the thread degraded into something else....
    anyway, I have come across this card from AVerMedia that might be worth a look: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100100&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NA&gclid=CLzl5su51LQCFckWMgodyWIA0A
  22. I did suggest a capture card earlier in the thread.
    I didnt know about the gamer capture card you linked.
    nice find
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