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January 21, 2012 2:49:30 PM

I received Great Advice in for a new Build several months ago. I decided to comeback as my situation has changed.
I attempted to create the build "From the Ground Up" Thread but unfortunantly I couldn't find the 3939k processor so I went to Cyber Power and attempted to implement the system there as they were the cheapest but yesterday they called and told me that Intel was caught off guard with the demand for the 3939k and it might be a month or more before more hit the market in large quantity

My Mission

My Objective was to get from Cyber Power the basics of what I would need to build a 12 core Dream Machine with a Quad GPU. (Something truly POWERFUL for rendering and 3D graphic. I was planning on buying a Dual Socket Mother Board with SLI, Crossfire, a TON of Ram Slot and PCI Express 3.0. (When it finally came out) and. I'm not sure if the EVGA SR-X was going to be that board but I was hoping to get one of the Processors for such a machine from a moderate build and upgrade later to the proper motherboard...add the other processor and more memory later along with the powersupply to handle to BEAST. What I want to know is.

1. Is there a Motherboard Currently Out with these spec?
2. Is there a Motherboard that can handle the 3930k in a more traditional system that I can later change out the Motherboard and add an additional Processor?
3. What Processor would be best for what I want to Do?
4. Is there somewhere else I can get the 3939k processor?

The Dream Machine
Approximate Purchase Date: Within 3 to 4 Months (If not Tomorrow)

Budget Range: $5,200 Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 3D Graphic, AutoCad, Solidworks, Lightwave, Maya etc.

Parts Not Required: (e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS) No Keyboard Mouse, Monitor, Speakers. OS is Windows 7

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:Anywhere

Country: Houston Texas USA

Parts Preferences: Need a case to handle a server style board.

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Yes
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The above can be for the future
What I need for now is a machine that I can upgrade to that point or something I can get close to. Right now I don't know if my Dream is even feasible regardless of the 3930k issue.
January 21, 2012 3:04:04 PM

Jeez man! Are you sure you REALLY need 2 physical processors?
What are the specs of your current system? Can you reuse some of the parts?
January 21, 2012 3:20:41 PM

Pretty much you have two motherboard options right now. A two socket 1366 and two expensive server processors ($2500 o f your budget)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Second and I believe better option is to get one a socket 2011 motherboard and 3930k processor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lastly if you are waiting then this should be out by then. New EVGA dual socket 2011 motherboard (few products down)
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/toms-hardware-ces-2012...
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January 21, 2012 3:24:38 PM

I put just one video card 580GTX 3GB because at your work you need more memory on GPU.
MOBO : ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU : Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD : Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : SeaSonic X-1250 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE : COOLER MASTER COSMOS II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD=RW : ASUS DRW Black SATA 24X DVD Burner
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...
TOTAL : $3,419.91
I used 3960X because 3930K is not on stock.
For your work i recomend this professional video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 21, 2012 6:00:28 PM

SingingThroughTheStorm said:
Jeez man! Are you sure you REALLY need 2 physical processors?
What are the specs of your current system? Can you reuse some of the parts?


Right now I definitely don't need two Processors but for I want to do in the future it will make things MUCH easier, That's why I want to get a good foundation for later.

I use the work computer but I'd like to bring my work Home. We design Domes and Flat Covers for Liquid Storage Tanks across the World. I do the designing in 3D. My Home Laptop is a m1730 XPS laptop and it's out for repair. I'm currently on a rinky-dink HP Pavillion dv9000 which surfing is all it's really good for. Then there is the laid up HP shor-stack desk top a1010n. Nothing I can reuse by my estimation.

andrewcarr said:
Pretty much you have two motherboard options right now. A two socket 1366 and two expensive server processors ($2500 o f your budget)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Second and I believe better option is to get one a socket 2011 motherboard and 3930k processor.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lastly if you are waiting then this should be out by then. New EVGA dual socket 2011 motherboard (few products down)
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/toms-hardware-ces-2012...


Only problem is Room for the future factor on the server board only having PCIe 2.0
(I'm willing to wait on that.
The question is...Is the second option compatible with the up coming Dual Socket Motherboards that will hopefully be running PCIe 3.0. The Biggest concern is processor / Motherboard compatibility for the system I can construct or order right now and the Server Style system I'd like to construct when the parts become available.

sosofm said:
I put just one video card 580GTX 3GB because at your work you need more memory on GPU.
MOBO : ASUS P9X79 PRO LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU : Intel Core i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU : GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 3GB 384-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD : Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD : Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : SeaSonic X-1250 1250W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE : COOLER MASTER COSMOS II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD=RW : ASUS DRW Black SATA 24X DVD Burner
http://secure.newegg.com/Shopping/ShoppingCart.aspx?Sub...
TOTAL : $3,419.91
I used 3960X because 3930K is not on stock.
For your work i recomend this professional video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



TOTAL : $3,419.91

This looks promising. Would this processor be compatible in later styles of Server Boards...If so..I'll cancel my order at Cyber Power to do this as a new construction. I could have the parts in just under two weeks. (I've never done anything like this) But my objective is to remove the (not enough power) issue from the current situation far, far, far, off to the future by a good 10 years.

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January 21, 2012 6:21:24 PM
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Here's a build I put together for a friend a while back with a grand plan of a $5500 budget. His goal was money's no object and his uses included, video editing, AutoCAD, light 3D rendering and ..... serious kick-arse 3D gaming. At first I was going with an expensive Quadro card but it soon became obvious that the 3D rendering was for occasional "take home from work stuff" but he really was gaming oriented (but wanted the tax write off for a "work machine". If your goals are more serious rendering oriented, I'd get a Quadro 4000 or 5000.

Case - $ 290 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 280 - Corsair AX1200 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 470 - ASUS Rampage IV Extreme http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
CPU - $ 600 - Intel Core i7-3930k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - incl w/ MoBo - Phanteks PH-TC14PE Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 170 - (4 x 4GB) Muskin Redline DDR3 1600 CAS 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 530 - EVGA 580 GTX 3072 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 530 - EVGA 580 GTX 3072 Same
GFX - $ 530 - EVGA 580 GTX 3072 Same
HD - $ 240 - Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD - $ 315 - Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 58 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor $ 290 ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - $ 90 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 58 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3D Kit $ 150 nVidia Vision 2 3D Glasses http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total $ 5,388

BTW, ...... In the end ..... he had me build a $1750 box w/ twin 560 Ti's..... methinks wifey had a hand in that :) 

You don't need / want the monitors, KB, Mouse , OS, 3D Kit so that knocks off $1300. Substituting the Quadro 5000 adds $200 back in bringing you to about $4,080..... the 4000 saves another $820...about $3,270 .... two 4000's puts ya just about $110 back in ya pocket or about $4000

Quadro 4000 - $740 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Quadro 5000 - $1780 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
January 22, 2012 3:16:18 PM

That looks like a REAL good start to my Dream Machine. Is that Quadro 5000 something that can run in-line with the those GTX 580's or is to substitute to them?
January 26, 2012 5:05:36 AM

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January 26, 2012 11:43:04 AM

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