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May 4, 2012 8:03:11 PM

To begin im not very knowledgable with computers etc... With the release of diablo 3 coming ive decided its time to buy my very first graphics card... After hours of research ive decided I like the 7850.

Now after all this research i started thinking are the other parts of my computer capable of handling this card or would I just be wasting my money.

All specs can be found here

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=e...

This is my processor
Processor
AMD Athlon II X4 620
Figure 2: AMD Athlon II logo

Operating speed: Up to 2.6 GHz
Number of cores: 4
Socket: AM3
Bus speed: 4000 MHz HT3




Can you guys tell me if this computer will be able to take advantage of this gpu or if i need to upgrade components or downgrade the gpu?

Ive never done anything like this... Now if i change out the motherboard and processor or just the processor is that going to mean a wipe of my HDD?

What processor could I upgrade to and will it be modern or still outdated?

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May 4, 2012 8:05:11 PM

Would it be better to buy a cheap psu and gpu right now so i can play diablo three and then save up to build a new system?
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 8:23:09 PM

No, you don't need to upgrade the CPU/motherboard at this time.

What PSU did you have in mind?
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 8:28:51 PM

Have you checked the length of your HD 7850 card to make sure it will fit in that case?

Some of the 7850s are longer than others.
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a b à CPUs
May 4, 2012 8:56:12 PM

its a decent quadcore, itll push that card ok. i would overclock it if you can though. 2.6 ghz is kind of slow.
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May 4, 2012 8:58:44 PM

No i have not checked on length yet. Ive been told coarsair... was thinking a cx600 or so?

Also will i be wanting to upgrade processor or anything in the near future? How long until mine is too outdated? would i need a larger power supply to account for that?

What are your reccomendations on psu?
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May 4, 2012 9:00:28 PM

Is overclocking easy? Would I need more fans?
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May 4, 2012 9:01:26 PM

This is whats in my cart right now



XFX Double D FX-785A-CDFC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814150609Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy


$269.99








CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply Item #: N82E16817139028Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
-$10.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$79.99$69.99

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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:03:30 PM

cuddlefish said:
Also will i be wanting to upgrade processor or anything in the near future? How long until mine is too outdated?
I think you will. You'll know when it's time, when you're not happy with the game performance. You should be OK with D3 with the new graphics card I think.

And no - you won't need a new PSU when you change CPU/MB if you get a decent one with the new graphics card.

Corsair cx600 is about right on power - lets check options/prices.
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:04:07 PM

The DD card is a long 9.5" - will that fit in your case?
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May 4, 2012 9:24:25 PM

Ummm im a little bit confused as to how much room I have...


It has enough room before it runs in to other side of the case... but How far will it stick out from the motherboard? will my ram get in the way? I also have a bunch of wires connecting into the motherboard near where i think the card will extend to
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May 4, 2012 9:25:58 PM

There is a picture of the motherboard on that specs link i posted... The gpu wouldnt be longer than the motherboard
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:31:22 PM

I looked at the picture - it didn't help estimating if you had enough room.
You also need room to plug in the PCI-e power adapters - 2 6pin power leads on the top of the card. Other 7850s only take 1 6pin power lead and are 8.5 long.
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May 4, 2012 9:32:24 PM

The mother baord is a 9.6 by 9.6 square.... look at the picture of it in the specs link and let me know if you think the plug in on the other side of the ram will get in the way?
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May 4, 2012 9:33:32 PM

Ohhhhh... Which one would you reccomend? I liked the double fan to keep it cool.
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:34:11 PM

Does that HP Pavilion p6214y case have a place for another case fan?
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:39:04 PM

What kind of connector does your monitor use? Resolution?
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May 4, 2012 9:43:59 PM

Ummm where would i look for a mounting spot for a case fan? im not sure? Monitor right now is the hp2009f... Would i be able to get like a 32 black friday lcd on black friday to use as my monitor now that ill have hdmi?
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May 4, 2012 9:45:57 PM

1600 x 900 factory-set resolution Supports DVI-D and VGA video input...viewing angle: 160 degrees Recommended resolution (H x V) 1600 x 900 @ 60 Hz Contrast...enables the monitor to display HDTV resolution if connected by the DVI connector...
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 9:53:19 PM

Supports DVI-D and VGA - you're OK there.
And yes, you'd be able to use a HDMI equipped 32" TV. (Avoid the 720p models)

An extra case fan mount. There would be mounting brackets, screw holes or a fan grill, spaced for a 92mm or 120mm case fan.
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 10:16:00 PM

It's looking like there are no options to add a case fan to that HP Pavilion p6214y.

I think it's worth your time to run through the HP support forums and see what other HP Pavilion p6214y owners are doing for video card upgrades. Look for HD 6950 or HD 6870 upgrades. And of course possible HD 7850 upgrades too.
See how well those went for other HP Pavilion p6214y owners.
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May 4, 2012 10:17:52 PM

There is empty space by the hdd and a 6x2 inch series of holes near there in the door...

there is a large series of holes in the door right obove the cpu cooler but i dont see anything else other than that.
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May 4, 2012 10:19:05 PM

will the video card stick out far enough to go up and over my ram?
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a b à CPUs
May 4, 2012 10:30:31 PM

I think with that resolution and considering all else, you might really consider something like a 7770. It's less expensive, can probably run on your current power supply. Short so it'll fit. Cool so it won't need additional cooling.

my .02

I'd also stay away from XFX personally. Something from Asus or MSI.
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May 4, 2012 10:40:31 PM

Where do i go to see the length of the cards? Cant find it on newegg?

Would i still be able to use a 32 inch tv as a monitor with the 7770 instead?
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a b à CPUs
May 4, 2012 10:44:06 PM

The size of the monitor isn't what matters, the resolution is. So the TV is either 1280x720 or 1920x1080. A 7770 should still be ok.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Gigabyte/HD_7770_OC/...

The length of the card should be in the description on the Newegg product page. It's under dimensions near the bottom.
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May 4, 2012 11:02:56 PM

on most of these they dont list the dimensions how silly is that
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 11:53:42 PM

Knowing how long the PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB is helps ID the length of some other cards.



HIS H785F2G2M Radeon HD 7850 2GB - about 8.5" with rear facing 6pin PCI-e connector. Also with $20 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 4, 2012 11:59:32 PM

XFX DoubleD (9.5" and top mounted PCI-e connectors) over HIS 7850.


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May 5, 2012 7:29:55 PM

So I should probably avoid the xfx because of length and position of the connectors.

HIS is 8.5'' long with power connector at the end towards the front of the case.

Powercooler is 8'' with the connector at the front end of the case.


Are there any others similar to these last two as far as length and position of the connector that I should consider?

Which one of these is going to cool better? Which one is the better brand? Better customer service as far as rma?

Which would you pick? The powercooler is out of stock right now but I could wait a few days. Or if there are other options let me know.

thanks for all the help guys it is greatly appreciated.
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a c 203 à CPUs
May 5, 2012 7:59:01 PM

I would pick the HIS for it's better price and it's reputation.
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May 5, 2012 9:18:11 PM

Now only other question is do I buy now or wait until the 670 drops on may 10th to see if the price drops?
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a b à CPUs
May 7, 2012 10:23:49 PM

It probably won't affect the pricing on the lower end cards, if you're looking at a 78-79 series card, you might not hurt waiting a little.

Last time I read we were looking at 7770s and then somewhere we stepped up to a 7870. ha ha.
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