Looking for some opinions on my first build.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119227 - Thats the case i plan on putting it in.
Raiddinn
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User experience will be poor in many respects.
5900 RPM hard drive is much slower than 7200 RPM drives are. I would strongly advise you use a 7200 RPM hard drive instead.
Motherboard is overkill.
XFX 650w would do better for the same price compared to the Corsair 650w.
The AMD RAM just hit the market and has a very short track record. I wouldn't buy it on that basis. It could be awesome or it could completely suck, but either way I wouldn't want to suggest you to be their test victim.
If you are going to use a 64 bit OS, almost all motherboards can handle RAM with the part number CT2KIT51264BA1339 and it has rock bottom failure rates. It is about as close to the ideal set of RAM as anything in existence.
If you have a 32 bit OS, you should stick with 2 x 2 GBs instead because that is all that will be recognized anyway.
Processor - I would rather see you get an i5-2500k and a Gigabyte 1155 motherboard to go with it instead of this processor/board. The FX series AMD processors were a flop in the marketplace, that is why there is almost never a time there is not a host of price reduction and combo deals that include them. It is the only way that sellers can offload their inventory.
Case - I would switch it out for an Antec 300 or HAF 912 instead. The bargain basement CM 430 won't do well at the main job of a case which is helping to increase the lifespawn of the parts inside it through adequate airflow and cooling. Both of the above entry level enthusiast cases are much better for systems that are going to include 6900 series cards
The XFX 6950 uses a dispersal fan which means most of the heat is going to stay in the case when it comes off the fins. The CM 430, iirc, has a top mount PSU which means all that heat has to get sucked into the PSU which will drastically decrease its lifespan.
Both of the above cases have bottom mount PSUs which means all that hot air from the video cards doesn't get sucked right into the PSU. This pretty much doubles its life expectancy.
If you are willing to spend maybe 10 - 20% more on the build you will have much better performance and life expectancy out of the system.
5900 RPM hard drive is much slower than 7200 RPM drives are. I would strongly advise you use a 7200 RPM hard drive instead.
Motherboard is overkill.
XFX 650w would do better for the same price compared to the Corsair 650w.
The AMD RAM just hit the market and has a very short track record. I wouldn't buy it on that basis. It could be awesome or it could completely suck, but either way I wouldn't want to suggest you to be their test victim.
If you are going to use a 64 bit OS, almost all motherboards can handle RAM with the part number CT2KIT51264BA1339 and it has rock bottom failure rates. It is about as close to the ideal set of RAM as anything in existence.
If you have a 32 bit OS, you should stick with 2 x 2 GBs instead because that is all that will be recognized anyway.
Processor - I would rather see you get an i5-2500k and a Gigabyte 1155 motherboard to go with it instead of this processor/board. The FX series AMD processors were a flop in the marketplace, that is why there is almost never a time there is not a host of price reduction and combo deals that include them. It is the only way that sellers can offload their inventory.
Case - I would switch it out for an Antec 300 or HAF 912 instead. The bargain basement CM 430 won't do well at the main job of a case which is helping to increase the lifespawn of the parts inside it through adequate airflow and cooling. Both of the above entry level enthusiast cases are much better for systems that are going to include 6900 series cards
The XFX 6950 uses a dispersal fan which means most of the heat is going to stay in the case when it comes off the fins. The CM 430, iirc, has a top mount PSU which means all that heat has to get sucked into the PSU which will drastically decrease its lifespan.
Both of the above cases have bottom mount PSUs which means all that hot air from the video cards doesn't get sucked right into the PSU. This pretty much doubles its life expectancy.
If you are willing to spend maybe 10 - 20% more on the build you will have much better performance and life expectancy out of the system.
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I agree with this setup plus the FX still has the BIOS issues that need to be worked out, which is why it was considered a flop to begin with.
Yeah I hate top-mounted PSus for that reason.
Crucial is an excellent RAM and SSD maker, I'll second that suggestion.
SSD with secondary HD would be the best solution but if the OP doesn't have the budget they can always get the SSD later as an upgrade.
Only triple channel systems (Intel X58) use 12GB of RAM. And those are on their way out anyways. For a dual channel system you will either get 8GB or 16GB in order to get the full functionality of it.
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If I were you, I would not ever heed the advice of anyone who says that AMD processors are better than 2500ks ever again.
The FX-8150, the best thing AMD has, has to OC just to equal the 2500k. If you OC the 2500k, there is nothing that AMD has that will even come close.
I suggested a RAM part number in my response. The CT2KIT51264BA1339.
You cannot determine if this is the RAM you need at this point, though.
First the processor must be decided, then the motherboard, and only then the RAM. If you get an i5-2500k and a gigabyte 1155 I almost guarantee the part number I listed will be compatible with it, but I can only do the final check on that if I have a solid CPU and Motherboard selection.
If you have a computer with a legal copy of XP or Vista already, I would suggest that you get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Upgrade CD.
If you are a student, you can get a really cheap copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit full version through a special microsoft program or through your school.
Otherwise, you will need to get a Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Retail CD.
The FX-8150, the best thing AMD has, has to OC just to equal the 2500k. If you OC the 2500k, there is nothing that AMD has that will even come close.
I suggested a RAM part number in my response. The CT2KIT51264BA1339.
You cannot determine if this is the RAM you need at this point, though.
First the processor must be decided, then the motherboard, and only then the RAM. If you get an i5-2500k and a gigabyte 1155 I almost guarantee the part number I listed will be compatible with it, but I can only do the final check on that if I have a solid CPU and Motherboard selection.
If you have a computer with a legal copy of XP or Vista already, I would suggest that you get a copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Upgrade CD.
If you are a student, you can get a really cheap copy of Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit full version through a special microsoft program or through your school.
Otherwise, you will need to get a Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Retail CD.
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I don't know where you're getting that info from but that's totally incorrect. On just about every benchmark, any SB processor will far outperform any AMD CPU. Plus there is that huge BIOS issue with most AMD boards including the 970 and 990FX not supporting the CPUs out of the box, You have to have an older AMD CPU and then flash the BIOS in order to install the new chip.
lol i was dead set with the intell i5 2500k but got convinced on another forum otherwise. Thats half the reason i posted on here is just to see what others thought before i bought anything. Im open to all recommendations for a motherboard to go with an intell and anything else i need. Im just trying to get the best bang for my buck. And keep it around the price range i got now.
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The 2500K will be a better bang-for-your-buck as it will give you fewer headaches than the AMD FX will. The FX - I'm not gonna say it's a total failure but it was a good experiment. If it didn't have those BIOS issues I think it could have been a viable competitor to SB and SB-E but the bad things with it far outweigh the good.
alright well for 10 bucks more i can get http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 to replace the hard drive i got right now. Its only 1tb not 2tb but i dont really need 2tb, just went with it for the price.
im going to go look at a motherboard to go with the i5 now.
im going to go look at a motherboard to go with the i5 now.
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This is the board I use and it's been great so far: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128506
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In order to make up for the increased cost for the processor, the motherboard should be scaled back some to balance the price out.
It is nice to have a $175 motherboard and all, but I think a regular $125 like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128495 would be fine and be more budget friendly.
It is nice to have a $175 motherboard and all, but I think a regular $125 like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128495 would be fine and be more budget friendly.
i dont really want to get to crazy with prices but im willing to go 50 bucks more on the motherboard if its really worth the 50 bucks to get the better one. If theres really not much of a difference then its not worth it. I just mainly want to get the most powerful gaming rig i can possibly for around 1k without having to upgrade it for a bit.
how does the motherboard compare to the one zero_ had in his sig? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
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Asrock has a much shorter track record than the gigabyte brand and they aren't generally considered to be equal in quality, but if you go with Asrock you generally get more board for the same money.
In this case, you probably won't notice much of a difference, but purely on spec the Asrock is the better looking deal as long as you don't factor in intangible things.
In this case, you probably won't notice much of a difference, but purely on spec the Asrock is the better looking deal as long as you don't factor in intangible things.
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IMO, Asrock's track record is where I have the hardest time recommending them. I'll recommend most of their boards in lower-end builds but if the OP is willing to pay for a quality board like the Gigabyte I recommended then that's where it would be worth it.
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Asus boards are top of the line, but they are probably the most expensive. EVGA boards are pretty good too, and EVGA has amazing customer service.
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