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January 23, 2012 4:28:19 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Within the next 3 weeks

Budget Range: $1300 Before rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Heavy Gaming/Movie viewing.

Parts Not Required: Starting from scratch - will need everything

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.newegg.com
Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences: No Specific Preference of parts

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: All common resolutions (will be looking at various monitors)

Additional Comments: I'm really just throwing this out in the open for someone to be kind enough to run some builds they have that come to mind.

I've been out of the technology scene for awhile, so I can't keep up with all the new technology or where to even start, but I do have experience assembling computers, so that part isn't what makes me nervous. It's finding the right equipment that'll be worth the buck.

Thanks to anyone who can take the time to throw some sample builds out there
a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 5:24:45 AM

2500k - $220

Gigabyte 1155 Z68 Motherboard - $125

CT2KIT51264BA1339 RAM 2x 4GB - $40

XFX Pro 650w Core - $65

HAF 912 - 56

Keyboard and Mouse - $50

Hyper 212 CPU Cooler - $30

Seagate 500 GB 7200 RPM - $85

Crucial M4 64 GB SSD - $105

ViewSonic VX2453mh-LED - $209

Asus 24x DVD - $25

Windows 7 Home Premium Retail http://www.discountmountainsoftware.com/miwi7hoprreb.ht... - $150

Powercolor AX 6850 - $130

Total 1290 ish with some rebates and stuff that you should be able to get that would lower the price some. If so, you might be able to move up to a 6950 instead of the 6850.

You can drop back some in the monitor too in order to free up more for the video card as well, but that is a really good one.
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January 23, 2012 5:40:24 AM

Cpu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 230$

Cpu cooler:
40$

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099/url] 40$

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104246 40$

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 95$

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 240$

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 70$ (may not be enough for CF)

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 160$

Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823233002 10$

Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577 38$

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 100$

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009212 130$

Blu-ray (assume you want this if you want to watch a lot of movies?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 57$

This puts you just under 1300$, but notice that there's no HDD. Those are expensive now so you might want to pick up that later (the 120gb ssd should do until then, you could pick up a cheap used one also).

Sorry if I forgot something vital or made some big blunder, still early in the morning here :) 
Good luck with your build, hope you end up getting some great advice from this thread." target="_blank"> 70$

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104246 40$

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 95$

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 240$

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 70$ (may not be enough for CF)

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 160$

Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823233002 10$

Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577 38$

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 100$

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009212 130$

Blu-ray (assume you want this if you want to watch a lot of movies?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 57$

This puts you just under 1300$, but notice that there's no HDD. Those are expensive now so you might want to pick up that later (the 120gb ssd should do until then, you could pick up a cheap used one also).

Sorry if I forgot something vital or made some big blunder, still early in the morning here :) 
Good luck with your build, hope you end up getting some great advice from this thread." target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104246 40$

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 95$

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 240$

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 70$ (may not be enough for CF)

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 160$

Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823233002 10$

Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577 38$

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 100$

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009212 130$

Blu-ray (assume you want this if you want to watch a lot of movies?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 57$

This puts you just under 1300$, but notice that there's no HDD. Those are expensive now so you might want to pick up that later (the 120gb ssd should do until then, you could pick up a cheap used one also).

Sorry if I forgot something vital or made some big blunder, still early in the morning here :) 
Good luck with your build, hope you end up getting some great advice from this thread." target="_blank"> 70$

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104246 40$

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216 95$

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 240$

PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028 70$ (may not be enough for CF)

SSD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726 160$

Keyboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823233002 10$

Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104577 38$

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 100$

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009212 130$

Blu-ray (assume you want this if you want to watch a lot of movies?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222 57$

This puts you just under 1300$, but notice that there's no HDD. Those are expensive now so you might want to pick up that later (the 120gb ssd should do until then, you could pick up a cheap used one also).

Sorry if I forgot something vital or made some big blunder, still early in the morning here :) 
Good luck with your build, hope you end up getting some great advice from this thread.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 6:14:15 AM

The monitor has no HDMI, the OS is illegal for people who build computers for their own personal use, and the OCZ SSDs have the highest failure rates of any SSDs.

Just things you might want to consider with the most recent build.
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January 23, 2012 6:20:00 AM

Raiddinn said:
The monitor has no HDMI, the OS is illegal for people who build computers for their own personal use, and the OCZ SSDs have the highest failure rates of any SSDs.

Just things you might want to consider with the most recent build.


Source for that bit about oem windows not being legal to use for a home build?
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 11:39:38 AM

Source = The license agreement. It clearly says that the license becomes valid when it is transferred (sold) to a 3rd party and it cannot be further transferred after the initial transfer.

It also clearly says that it is a 1 user license which means if you transfer it to, say, your wife then you can't be a user on her PC.

It is all right there in legalese.

If you can't get through the legal speak, here is a short form directly from Microsoft's website:

http://www.microsoft.com/oem/en/licensing/sblicensing/p...

Per the official Microsoft webpage:

There is a growing market for "do-it-yourself" home PC hobbyists who assemble PCs from components for their own use. Microsoft retail software licenses are the appropriate licenses for the do-it-yourself market. OEM System Builder software is not intended for this use, unless the PC that is assembled is being resold to another party. ​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

They really are quite clear about all this.
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January 23, 2012 11:46:49 AM

Nothing wrong with buying an OEM licence. Almost every single home user does because of the price. You would be crazy to pay extra for non-OEM just because of some small print. After all, how can they prove your didnt a) buy the build with the OEM from someone else? or b) have the intention of selling the build at some point. Both of which points DO comply with the MS small print.

Secondly....a 6850 in a $1300 GAMING build.......I think not. At absolute minimum be looking towards GTX 560Ti / 6950.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 12:30:15 PM

People would not be crazy to comply with the license terms.

You, however, would be crazy for suggesting that posters do illegal things when it is clearly against the TOS of the board to do so.

So not only would they be on the wrong side of the license agreement for doing the suggestion, you would also be on the wrong side of the agreement for even suggesting it.

a) They have resources for this. They could just ask you who the OEM is and when you can't give a name they can trace back then it is obviously an illegal copy.

b) If you are building it for resale, you can't use it yourself. Any computer you intend to be a user on you must have a legal license for. It is not legal for an OEM system builder to use the PC for personal use before it is sold to a 3rd party. The license does not become legal until it is transferred. The OEM installing games on the computer and then playing it would be yet another violation of the license agreements they agreed to when installing it.

In other news, if the OP wants to drop the SSD for a better gaming card that would be fine too. I am not overly thrilled about suggesting a 6850 for the setup either, but it is dishonest to call it a $1300 gaming build.

Budgets are written for the case and everything in it. In this case it is more like a $1000 build. The $300 difference between those figures would generally go to a better video card because all the other parts are about as good as they are going to get in a $1000 build.

In this case the $300 overage has to go to getting monitors and stuff instead.

Might be better to just give my build and leave open the potential for a 2nd card to Crossfire later when more budget becomes available.

I would be more than happy to adjust my suggestion to drop the SSD and get a better video card on day 1 and leave the SSD open as a potential upgrade later, though.
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January 23, 2012 1:08:41 PM

But buying a complete computer from a distributor and an OEM license, isn't that almost the same as buying the computer in parts with an OEM from a distributor?

The reason OEM is available (a reduction in price against the retail version), is because distributors can lower there overall price of the computer. In a sense this also complies with buying a computer in parts. As he will buy more expensive parts when the price of the OS is lowered with 100$ (in some cases).

I know here in The Netherlands it is tolerated to buy an OEM that way.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 1:23:03 PM

The reduction in price comes from Microsoft transferring the responsibility of support from itself to the OEM System Builder.

If you buy an OEM copy off the internet and install it then you must sell the computer. This is specifically stated in the license agreement. There is no if this or if that in regards to this clause.

If you do install it and sell the computer, then whoever you sell it to must ask you for ALL their technical support. Microsoft has no responsibility to help them if they need help with any problems as part of the OEM System Builder agreement.

I don't know what websites you have in the Netherlands, but the OEM System Builder agreements would only have any inkling of legality if the selling website agrees to take ALL your technical support and configuration calls.

I seriously doubt that they have agreed to do this, therefore it is in no way legal.

Also, the seller must do the install process, not the receiver, AND it must be done using an OEM Preinstallation Kit which you, as an individual, probably don't have.

If it is the case where you are like it is in America, then it is legal for a website to sell you something that you can't legally use once you receive it. I imagine that is the case.

Caveat Emptor, that means the buyer is responsible for doing their due diligance and understanding what it is they are buying. It is the defense used by people that sell illegal things. The website, if questioned, would say that it assumed you were buying the license and the parts so you could build it and sell it to someone which is legal according to the agreements.

It has nothing at all to do with expecting the buyer to buy more expensive parts if they save money on the OS.

I suspect what you are doing in the Netherlands is not legal, you just think it is.

If you show me an English copy of your OEM license agreements in the Netherlands, then I will confirm that one way or the other.

It really is quite simple and straightforward if you understand legalese.
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January 23, 2012 1:28:41 PM

Better OEM than pirated copy don't you think? So shut it.
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 1:32:30 PM

At least with an OEM copy Microsoft gets some revenue from it.

Neither is more legal than the other, though.

The terms of this website state that we can only suggest legal things for people to do, so you need to "shut it" yourself maxinexus.
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January 23, 2012 1:48:04 PM

I have looked it up and you are right on all parts, also in the Netherlands it is illegal to sell it that way. But i read an article years ago and just found it:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/63387/microsoft-legt-verkoop...
You can use google translate for translation. This is the biggest Computer Tech site of The Netherlands.

It basically says that Microsoft is not after distributors that sell the OEM product as a loose product. But they say the buyer is responsible. Therefore one can assume there is a sort of toleration.
Just as canabis is illegal in The Netherlands, but it is tolerated for buying and usage.
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a c 448 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 3:41:44 PM

Let's knock off the insults and help the OP.

Thanks.
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January 23, 2012 4:02:54 PM

Ok i will.

- Intel i5 2500k
- 8GB 1600Mhz XMS corsair ddr3
- HD6950 (easy unlockable Sapphire dirt 3 edition recommended)
- MSI GD55 (G3) Motherboard
- 128GB Crucial M4 SSD (for Windows en program installs)
- 1TB HDD (brand of choise)
- Antec p183 Case
- RETAIL Windows 7 Home premium (more than enough for gaming and programs)
- Corsair 800 Watt powersupply of choise (even the cheapest corsair have overvoltage and overcurrent protection, which is desirable)

This will be around $1300
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a b 4 Gaming
January 23, 2012 5:37:03 PM

I just want to throw it out there that it is not hard to qualify for a legal copy of a Windows 7 upgrade CD and that they come with all the advantages of a full version and none of the disadvantages of an OEM CD.

Many people also qualify for student discounts which also reduces cost substantially.

I fully stand behind using those deals if they apply to the individual. I personally own a legal student version copy, a legal upgrade copy, and a legal OEM copy.

Saving money is good when the results are still legal.
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January 24, 2012 3:27:16 AM

I do appreciate those who have offered advice to helping me with a build layout. Can I get some more opinions on the builds that are posted up? Skrendie your build looks to be the most promising candidate for me to take into serious consideration thus far, but I'd like to know what everyone elses thoughts are before making a final decision
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January 24, 2012 5:48:17 AM

It is not illegal to use oem win7 for your own pc. It is only illegal for the retailer to sell it to you without your building a new pc. Even that they can get away with if you buy a component like a hard drive or something. If it was illegal it wouldn't be able to be bought without a retailers licence.


I am liking all of the build advice you are recieving so far. With your budget however, I wouldn't skimp on the mobo.
I would go for one of these
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Dont let the micro atx board throw you off It is a screaming little board

I have a pc for sale on ebay with that board and here is the link. Look through the pictures and see the 3dMark vantage test scores it gets with a 550 ti
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220936715416?ssPageName=STRK:ME...

Both are about as good as you can get even if you spent more you wouldn't really get much better. Both are pci.e 3.0 for the new cards that are coming out and will work just fine for 2.0 until then. They are very high quality boards and should last upwards of ten years if need be.

The i5-2500k is your best bet unless doing allot of vid editing etc then go with i7-2600k. Even 2500k is good for editing tho unless you do allot and need more speed.
I like nvidea better than radeon and would suggest a gtx 560 ti or a gtx 570 for better graphics. Try 1 card first to see if it satisfies your needs and if you want better then sli
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January 24, 2012 6:10:35 AM

ahbrown4057 said:
Thanks for you input rmiiirusty. Can you please specify the differences between the two mother boards you've shown, other than the pricing?

*EDIT*

What are your thoughts on this Gtx 570?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Evga is a good brand and is probably one of the better prices you will find as far as brands. Also msi,saphire,and asus.are some good brands for gpus.

I don't think there is allot of diff in the two boards. One is micro atx and the other is full atx, the full size one has an extra pcie slot for three way sli if you ever wanted to use it. I cant imagine needing a third slot for gpu if going gtx570
altho it may be handy for some other card tho.

I like the asus maximus myself mostly because of the republic of gamers theme.
It is very stable to overclock and lightning fast, It has on board soundblaster, and pretty much everything the larger board has.
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January 24, 2012 6:35:49 AM

ahbrown4057 said:
Thanks for you input rmiiirusty. Can you please specify the differences between the two mother boards you've shown, other than the pricing?

*EDIT*

What are your thoughts on this Gtx 570?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


just wanted to throw it out there but have you checked out ibuypower heres a link to a configuration im interested in http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/iBUYPOWER_HS_11/w/101888 lol buy a monitor from someone else i forget they charge 50 bucks to ship a monitor
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January 24, 2012 6:58:43 AM

I think that is a nice monitor and would be sufficient for the 570 gpu. you should be able to near max most games with it. I personnally don't cotton to the speakers in a monitor but there is nothing wrong with it. I personnally use a smaller 22" monitor and don't feel the need for a larger one but I know allot of folks like bigger ones. What ever monitor you choose make sure you use a dvi cable and not vga, It gives you a much better picture.

Peep 1988. Hey I wouldn't go to a sight like i buy power or cyber crap pc. to have them build a system for me. either build it yourself or get someone like me to build it for you. It will be a lot cheaper.
Take the parts from this system and if they even use that good of stuff I bet they want almost twice as much to build it for you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220936715416?ssPageName=STRK:ME...
This is brand new and a real good deal. I can build you one to your specs for as little as $100 above cost plus shipping it to you of course.
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January 24, 2012 7:12:31 AM

rmiiirusty said:
I think that is a nice monitor and would be sufficient for the 570 gpu. you should be able to near max most games with it. I personnally don't cotton to the speakers in a monitor but there is nothing wrong with it. I personnally use a smaller 22" monitor and don't feel the need for a larger one but I know allot of folks like bigger ones. What ever monitor you choose make sure you use a dvi cable and not vga, It gives you a much better picture.

Peep 1988. Hey I wouldn't go to a sight like i buy power or cyber crap pc. to have them build a system for me. either build it yourself or get someone like me to build it for you. It will be a lot cheaper.
Take the parts from this system and if they even use that good of stuff I bet they want almost twice as much to build it for you.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/220936715416?ssPageName=STRK:ME...
This is brand new and a real good deal. I can build you one to your specs for as little as $100 above cost plus shipping it to you of course.


Thanks for your offer but I'm probably going to buy a pc from ibuypower and if i do build my own my father said he would help me I thought ibuypower would be good as long as you don't pick the no name psu crap please check the link I provided and tell me what you think or list a build thats simillar in price
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January 24, 2012 7:27:24 AM

No offense to you peep1988 and rmiiirusty, both your inputs relevant to the topic were appreciated, but I feel you're steering this topic away from it's original basis, please open another thread of your own, if you're looking for other users to critique your builds, or purchase any services you're offering. I'd like to keep this topic on point. :) 

Thanks for your opinion on the monitor rusty, and to all others, I think I've obtained quite a bit of information, and have a fairly confident idea on what build I'll be managing within the coming weeks.
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January 24, 2012 7:28:35 AM

Best answer selected by ahbrown4057.
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January 24, 2012 7:29:19 AM

skrendie said:
Ok i will.

- Intel i5 2500k
- 8GB 1600Mhz XMS corsair ddr3
- HD6950 (easy unlockable Sapphire dirt 3 edition recommended)
- MSI GD55 (G3) Motherboard
- 128GB Crucial M4 SSD (for Windows en program installs)
- 1TB HDD (brand of choise)
- Antec p183 Case
- RETAIL Windows 7 Home premium (more than enough for gaming and programs)
- Corsair 800 Watt powersupply of choise (even the cheapest corsair have overvoltage and overcurrent protection, which is desirable)

This will be around $1300


Selected as best answer due to the usefulness and relevance of this response to my original question. :) 
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January 24, 2012 7:36:25 AM

ahbrown4057 said:
No offense to you peep1988 and rmiiirusty, both your inputs relevant to the topic were appreciated, but I feel you're steering this topic away from it's original basis, please open another thread of your own, if you're looking for other users to critique your builds, or purchase any services you're offering. I'd like to keep this topic on point. :) 

Thanks for your opinion on the monitor rusty, and to all others, I think I've obtained quite a bit of information, and have a fairly confident idea on what build I'll be managing within the coming weeks.


Sorry didn't mean to hijack your thread if your gaming on a single monitor at 1900 by 1200 I think a overclocked 560ti would be plebtly for gaming my friend gets consistent 40 plus fps on bf3 at high and consider getting a board that supports pci 3.0. Have a good day
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January 24, 2012 7:42:46 AM

Thanks, but I've already selected the best answer to this thread :) 
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January 24, 2012 7:53:30 AM

Good luck with your build and sorry about communicating with others.
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January 24, 2012 8:25:09 AM

The MSI GD55 motherboard is a good choise, because it is around 150 bucks and is an ATX motherboard, with some additional normal pci slots (which the maximus does not have). I have the GD65 and it is the same board as the GD55 but, with some less SATA ports and less stuff in the box, but other than that are the same.

The difference between boards there days is very small. The difference in gaming performance would be negligible (2 fps difference in some cases). The MSI has (just as the maximus) Solid capacitors and long lasting solid ferrit cores.

If you are choosing MSI be aware to get the G3 and Z68 version. And if the price difference with the GD65 is 10 bucks, i would go for that.
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January 24, 2012 9:01:34 AM

skrendie said:
As for the graphics card, the GTX570 has about the same graphical power as the HD6950 (especially unlocked), but for less money en less electricity power :p 

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...


6950 does not have the same graphical power as a 570. Unlocked, maybe. Stock, certainly not. Also seeing as GPU memory seems to be making a difference in newer games (BF3), the 6970 would be the best GPU choice (providing it fits into budget), since it has 2GB RAM. There are 2GB versions of the 6950, and even some for the 560Ti, but this is going to hold a premium price over the "standard" 1GB cards.

6950 is the GTX 560Ti equivalent.
6970 is the GTX 570 equivalent.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics...
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January 24, 2012 9:12:57 AM

Ehm, but if you could easily unlock the 6950 and it costs 50 less, why go for the 6970 which is the same card and the memory amount on both are the same. (2GB)
There is a 1GB version and indeed one should not buy that.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/313656-15-differenc...

It's almost an "Nvidia is better than AMD discussion" which i think is not really the point here. I myself are a Nvidia guy, but must admit that in that range AMD has the best cards on the table.

- better performance/price
- less wattage (power)
- cooler




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January 24, 2012 9:17:48 AM

Skrendies choice on the msi boards may be a descent choice as well. The only msi board I have in a pc is a an h67 board and it works fine with a i3-2100

MSI is supposed to be a good board for the most part.The only problem I had was with the update utility. When you first build you use the update utility to scan for all drivers and software updates and find the ones that need updated. It does this well and spits back a list of all drivers and utilities associated with the board. However, you are supposed to be able to click and update everything as a group and that did not work for me with my board. I tried it two or three times and it only got some of the updates and the rest failed. I resorted to picking them 1 at a time and updating that way. A lengthy process but in the end, it all worked well.
I have been thinking about using a gd-80 in my next build, but I am having a hard time deciding between that or the asus gen3 I linked earlier.

It just has to be blue cause I am using this case
http://www.xoxide.com/aerocool-sycloniiblackedition-ful...
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January 24, 2012 9:24:45 AM

skrendie said:
Ehm, but if you could easily unlock the 6950 and it costs 50 less, why go for the 6970 which is the same card and the memory amount on both are the same. (2GB)
There is a 1GB version and indeed one should not buy that.

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/313656-15-differenc...

It's almost an "Nvidia is better than AMD discussion" which i think is not really the point here. I myself are a Nvidia guy, but must admit that in that range AMD has the best cards on the table.

- better performance/price
- less wattage (power)
- cooler


I like nvidea to,and for 1 main reason, That $*&%*&* catalyst software sux.
If it wasn't for that I would like radeon better.
Out of about 5 radeon cards that I have tried I have only ever gotten 1 to work right and I loved it.
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January 24, 2012 9:47:13 AM

Indeed the live update sucks a bit, but who does not get the drivers from the internet anyway.

I have put 2 unlockable 6950's in friends computers, and they still work fine after months. Maybe you had a bit of bad luck with your cards :p 

I have heard bad things about Nvidia too. Friend of mine doesn't even want a Nvidia anymore :p 

So its more about luck i think.
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January 24, 2012 10:05:57 AM

skrendie said:
Ehm, but if you could easily unlock the 6950 and it costs 50 less, why go for the 6970 which is the same card and the memory amount on both are the same. (2GB)


I was under the impression there was a "chance" to unlock a 6950 - not a guarantee? What happens if you buy a 6950 and find your unable to unlock the extra power? Your left with a lesser card, costing more than a GTX 560Ti, with less performance. GTX 560Ti is known for its incredible over-clock ability.

skrendie said:

I myself are a Nvidia guy, but must admit that in that range AMD has the best cards on the table.

- better performance/price
- less wattage (power)
- cooler


I have to agree here too. Although I'm not sure about the better price, they tend to be more expensive than their Nvidia counterparts. In the UK at least anyway.
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January 24, 2012 11:49:32 AM

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