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May 6, 2012 11:02:00 AM

Hi I am new at building computers it going to be my first time soon. I need to know if I am getting the best bang for my buck I want the best performance possible to run games like Battlefield 3 or The witcher 2 and my budget is at $1500-$1600. So please point out some of my errors, maybe give some suggestion and tips for what I should change and do. Here are my specs and prices before tax:

Corsair Obsidian 650D $179.99

Corsair Vengeance Blu 8GB $70.24

Gigabyte GTX 560 $219.50

Razer Lycosa Gaming Keyboard $70.99

Intel Core i5-2500k $219.99

Lite-On Internal DVD Writer $17.99

ASUS 24" Widescreen HD LCD Monitor-1080P, 1920x1080 $169.97

Gigabyte Intel Z68 Motherboard (LGA1155 ) $104.99

Seagate Baracuda 2TB $119.97

Corsair TX750 $110.99

Razer Abyssus $39.99

Cooler Master TX3 $27.99

SteelSeries Siberia V2 Full Size Gaming HeadSet $86.98

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit $99.99

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May 6, 2012 11:17:49 AM

If i were u, i woudn't spend that much money on the case.. Save some money on the case, spend it in the GPU.. and/or taking Ivy bridge instead of Sandy bridge might be an option..
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May 6, 2012 11:36:40 AM

kemperkipie said:
If i were u, i woudn't spend that much money on the case.. Save some money on the case, spend it in the GPU.. and/or taking Ivy bridge instead of Sandy bridge might be an option..


What case would you suggest to save some money
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May 6, 2012 11:38:28 AM

get a cheaper case, power supply is over kill, cm tx3 why a budget basement hsf when rest of stuff is top notch?, get better gpu with savings
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May 6, 2012 11:40:56 AM

Is the EVGA GTX 480 a better GPU then the Gigabyte GTX 560
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May 6, 2012 11:44:24 AM

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480 pwns the 560 for less cost...


I searched the 460 on newegg and its 249.99 which is more but if it performs better then thats not a problem
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May 6, 2012 11:45:19 AM

jasont78 said:
get a cheaper case, power supply is over kill, cm tx3 why a budget basement hsf when rest of stuff is top notch?, get better gpu with savings


What heat sink would you recommend though it has to fit into a mid tower
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May 6, 2012 11:45:55 AM

thelastsolidsnake said:
What case would you suggest to save some money


carbide 400r if u like the corsairs i like the look of nzxt phantom 410 theres heaps from coolermaster storm series the antecs take your pick
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May 6, 2012 11:46:08 AM

On your budget I wouldn't get a 480 but yes it is better than the 560.

I think your build is too much about looks than actual grunt

PSU - get a 650

HDD - get 1TB or even 500GB as a storage drive and an SSD for OS and games

GPU - Get a GTX580

CPU & Mobo - Get a Z77 board and an Ivybridge CPU it wont cost much more

Case and keyboard/mouse etc - spend a bit less here to get the better hardware above

Give me 10 minutes and I will post what I would build on that large budget part by part
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May 6, 2012 11:54:00 AM

thelastsolidsnake said:
What heat sink would you recommend though it has to fit into a mid tower

get something like a 212 evo only few bucks more and will handle 2500k up till 4.6ish under normal operating conditions
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May 6, 2012 11:54:10 AM

wr6133 said:
On your budget I wouldn't get a 480 but yes it is better than the 560.

I think your build is too much about looks than actual grunt

PSU - get a 650

HDD - get 1TB or even 500GB as a storage drive and an SSD for OS and games

GPU - Get a GTX580

CPU & Mobo - Get a Z77 board and an Ivybridge CPU it wont cost much more

Case and keyboard/mouse etc - spend a bit less here to get the better hardware above

Give me 10 minutes and I will post what I would build on that large budget part by part

That would be appreciated and could you literally do everything that goes into a computer on my budget plus keyboard and mouse. Plus I would like a better CPU and GPU to run some of the higher end games.
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May 6, 2012 11:57:52 AM

jasont78 said:
carbide 400r if u like the corsairs i like the look of nzxt phantom 410 theres heaps from coolermaster storm series the antecs take your pick

I am thinking the COOLER MASTER HAF 922
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May 6, 2012 12:00:39 PM

jasont78 said:
get something like a 212 evo only few bucks more and will handle 2500k up till 4.6ish under normal operating conditions

That will do but will it fit in a mid tower
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May 6, 2012 12:08:45 PM

so i am think the GTX 480 with the zalman vf3000f cooler
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May 6, 2012 12:22:46 PM

thelastsolidsnake said:
That would be appreciated and could you literally do everything that goes into a computer on my budget plus keyboard and mouse. Plus I would like a better CPU and GPU to run some of the higher end games.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Antec DF-85 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GV-N580UD-15I GeForce GTX 580
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GIGABYTE GA-Z77M-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-60G 2.5" 60GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAMSUNG B2430H Glossy Black 24" 5ms Full HD 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
COOLER MASTER CM Storm Xornet SGM-2001-BLON1 Black 5 Mouse Buttons + 2 Fix Function Buttons Buttons 1 x Wheel USB Wired Optical 2000 dpi Gaming Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Total $1596.87
Theres $35 you can claim back in mail in rebates there too.

I see no reason for you to buy a 480 which is now 2 generations old when your budget can allow a 580. The 480 has heat, power and noise issues, yes its a good card and cheap but why take the possible issues of it when you easily afford 1 generation newer.
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May 6, 2012 12:27:27 PM

If your comparing OC'ing the 580 can mildly OC without the ballache of buying and fitting extra coolers

Look we all know your rig is good and your SLi 480's with alot of aftermarket cooling kick ass but thats no reason to tell everybody to buy something that is 2 generations old and requires alot of fiddling and aftermarket cooling to get to an acceptable level. People can buy a better card than you mate you don't need to get all defensive about it.
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May 6, 2012 12:31:27 PM

Everything you showed me is perfect but I don't know about the GPU plus I live in Canada
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May 6, 2012 12:37:20 PM

I am going to have to go with wr6133. I rather have a card that I dont have to throw a lot of aftermarket cooling on.
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May 6, 2012 12:38:30 PM

GTX480 went out of production a long time ago yes its a good card but

It sucks ALOT of Power

Kicks out ALOT of Heat

Cooling that Heat = noise

Theres a reason they still have an old card in stock and brand new at bargain prices its replacement is better and the 480 had enough issues that it is still in stock brand new at those prices.

By your reasoning nobody needs better than a core 2 quad and a gtx 285 as they can be OC'd to run most games at decent levels

Also I see no logical reason to buy a 2500k the OP can afford its REPLACEMENT the 3570K which is BETTER
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May 6, 2012 12:39:26 PM

Now I am stuck again, I don't know who to go with for the GPU
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May 6, 2012 12:39:52 PM

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OMG... get a 7870.


Listen to Recon here
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May 6, 2012 12:41:19 PM

My descision is made I am going with the GTX 580 because it is a way more logical move for a beginner like me.
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May 6, 2012 12:43:10 PM

Its worth the cost difference when you add in the aftermarket cooling you have to add to the 480 plus the extra cooling measures in the case.... suddenly the difference in price shrinks then

However I agree with you the 7870 you linked is a better price to performance choice than either
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May 6, 2012 12:48:01 PM

ok $50 for a cooler so your $150 difference is now $100.

We still have noise

And there is still going to be heat escaping in to the case

Oh and yeah it still sucks more power than the 580

On a $1600 budget you dont buy 2 Generation out of date tech

Seriously its ok for people to buy IB, Z77 and better GPU's than you it wont make your manhood shrink
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May 6, 2012 12:51:43 PM

Though I want to OC so should I go with the I5 2500k
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May 6, 2012 12:59:33 PM

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No we do not have noise...
Jesus.
Get a 7870 or 7950.
580 is a rip off.
If you really want me to pull out the videos and benchies i will.

And i will bring in the other folks who i dealt with on this situation.
They all thanked me, lets put it that way.

Mikem7111 is one of them, he went to 480 SLi from a 7970 and was amazed.
Noise was not an issue, heat was 85c-90 in SLi (stock cooler), but he knew what he was getting into.

The zalman coolers are quiet and so are the Gelid icy visions.


Your comparing 2 cards in SLi to a single card now of course the 2 cards beat the single card.

OP I linked you the latest stuff that you can afford but end of day you buy what you want/think you can get best use or value from

Im out of this thread as I think to speak in Recons language I need to post images of people licking windows.
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May 6, 2012 12:59:50 PM

ok good and can you help me find a 24 inch or so computer on the canadian site I do not know which one to get
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May 6, 2012 1:04:12 PM

You linked me to the american store, i converted everything except for the monitor
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May 6, 2012 1:09:55 PM

so the 7950 is a better buy then the 580 and 7970. Also, since the 7950 is AMD don't i need a amd processor and a amd motherboard
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May 6, 2012 1:16:23 PM

I really appreciate all the help you gave to me. But I need help on the hardrive i want a 1 tb
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May 6, 2012 1:35:58 PM

Do I really need a SD card, what do I get from getting it.
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May 6, 2012 2:17:32 PM


For 1600 dollars there's a few things to take in to consideration, power, price, branding, customer support, durability.

For those I recommend only corsair ram, corsair or pc power and cooling Power Supplies (People have their views on antec's but they really do have a high burnout rate compared to most), They have sold a lot of PSU's, but 70,000,000 people want to see Justin Beiber in concert, doesn't mean he's the coolest person in the world. EVGA for videocards, their customer support is unmatched, they know a lot about every product you need help with. The people at evga can help you with windows problems, ram timings, lot's of other things even if what you call about doesn't end up being their product at fault they will still go the extra mile to keep you as a customer and help troubleshoot with you.

As for motherboards, I suggest only Asus/Gigabyte. Asus support isn't that great at all, they don't know very much, and are book readers when you call, don't have very good technical know-how. But they are one of the better motherboard companies out there currently.

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As for power, any normal 700w PSU with an 80% rating (the higher rank the better, bronze/silver/gold) will be able to handle your rig provided you don't have heavy watercooling, and a lot of extra's and if you don't plan on SLI'ing your cards, but again, branding and quality comes into play, and I'd get nothing else other than pc power and cooling or corsair, PC power and cooling has been making PSU's long before gaming on PC's was big. The company was responsible for many innovations including the first CPU cooler, the first PC heat alarm, the first independently-regulated PC power supply, the first redundant power system, the first NVIDIA SLI Certified power supply, the first 1000W computer power supply and the first - and still only company to offer an individual certified test report with each power supply sold.

As for ram, be careful about how much you get, if you fill all 4 dimm slots with 2gb x 4 sticks you will have to be careful about what CPU cooler you get and make sure your ram is low profile (Small flush heatsink). since some aftermarket coolers will bump into the dimm slots. Most will tell you to go with the corsair H100 or H80, there are ok batches of those out there, but you can go to newegg's reviews and see that there are A LOT of people with leaks, and these aren't by kids that have no idea what they are doing, most of them do, and it's a closed loop system, hard to mess that up. They are 50/50 whether you get one with a properly working pump, or that isn't leaking, and frankly, I wouldn't suggest something that has a chance to ruin your PC, it's not de-ionized like radiator coolant. It will fry your electronics if it hits it.


As for a videocard? I'd suggest getting a EVGA GTX 580, doesn't have to be the beastly 3gb model, but the 1.5 will do just fine. EVGA is a very, very good reliable brand, and if you have any problems, they will help you out, when the 7900gt's had their flaws world wide, EVGA was the only company joining computer forum boards telling members to send theirs out for a replacement, and If i recall right they even stepped it up to a 7950 because all the 7900's had flaws. They truly do have unmatched support. ATI has a lot of driver issues, especially if you like playing older games.

Case is a very important thing, looks aren't so much, but if you got the budget to get both it's worth it, but the cooler your components run the faster everything runs and the less amp's it takes from struggling and having to draw more power which in the end increases longevity of everything. Silverstone has some nice basic cases, so does thermaltake, and coolermaster.

I'd truly go Air cooling for the 2500k, if that's what you plan on getting, the Thermaltake Frio cooler is only 50 dollars and does a great job of doing everything you need, it's reliable, won't leak on you like a corsair H100 or H80.

And I see someone put in there for you to get an OCZ SSD, OCZ has horrible support, and also all of their SSD's are horrible, a quick google search will explain. if you want a good quality SSD go with crucial, or intel. both of them have VERY reliable SSD's.

What's really really sad is, and I hate to say this, but I've been building computers for close to 20 years, and it use to be huge in the difference of building your own vs buying a prebuilt one, and normally I'm 150% against buying a prebuilt one for gaming purposes, they are never upgradable much, have bad components you've never heard of... but...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

They use asrock (lower end asus) and they also use asus in their parts, they also use EVGA videocards, and corsair ram. For the price, you pretty much can barely build it for the same price. Which astounds me. And if it's your first time building an intel machine, I'd be careful about the pins on the motherboard, i'd say for being your first rig, it'd be nice to get Ibuypower's warranty with it. But if you want to build your own, here is the list I'd personally give you for your budget of 1500-1600.

Case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - Raven RV03b case, it has the component's flipped sideways (like motherboard/videocard etc) so all of the fans at the bottom blow all the heat directly up and out, instead of around and under the components like 99% of cases do, and it has VERY nice cable management and all the air rushes out the top for the best airflow, I'd high recommend this case especially for the price and it's on sale 141.99+9.99 shipping (You will need to buy a few extra 120mm fans, I suggest a scythe with 110 CFM of airmovement for the top, and a few random thermaltake 120mm or some other good brand for the extra's in the case, it already comes with 2 180mm fans on the bottom, rest are just for extra airflow in the case, the case is basically designed around pushing the air from the bottom to the top as fast as possible while cooling all the components at once and blowing all of their heat out at once in 1 big push of air.


CPU, I'd definitely get a 2500k for now, and get a Z77 motherboard so you can upgrade to Ivy a few years later when the models have been binned and fixed and perfected, it's almost impossible to "future proof" rigs, but this is your best bet, especially with motherboards offering support for both, may as well get the z77. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 219.99


Motherboard - z77 asus sabertooth motherboard, one of the better z77 boards out at the moment. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 239.99

Ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Corsair Low profile (so you can use an aftermarket heatsink and not hit the ram) 8gb for 119.99, or you can get 16gb for barely a hair more http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 16gb for 134.99 BOTH of these kits are ready for XMP 1.3 support and that's something you want to make sure you have for the newer XMP profiles.

Videocard - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - EVGA 580 GTX 1.5gb, 409 after rebate, 429 normally.

Power supply - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 750w Silver certified, great warranties, and good durability - 149.99 (20 dollar instant, was 169) + 10 dollar rebate = 139.99. And it's modular which = better cable management, less wires in your case that you don't need = better airflow and cooler components.

SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Crucial 64gb for your gaming HD, you will need no other SSD other than crucial or intel, the rest are garbage, the facts are there. The longevity and durability and RMA rate are much, much lower in Crucial/Intel SSD's. 80.99 (was 99.99)

HD for storage - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Western Digital 320gb 6gb/s 7200rpm HD. 74.99

You will also want a mini HDMI to HDMI plug for your GTX 580, I recommend http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... since you wanted an HDMI monitor.

Here's your thermaltake frio CPU cooler - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 47.99.

I would normally recommend you LG monitor's, but that's up to you, if you want asus http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... there's one that's 2ms, and has a 5 eggs and a good rebate and is 23" and 169.99.

So the total right now is... 1698 for everything, you could shave off a bit depending on what you wanted, you could only get 8gb of ram and shave about 20 off it, and maybe a lower series videocard, but I wouldn't skimp on much more than that, the rest are quality products, not overkill, and not underpowered. It's a solid rig. Just my advice. I do have 20 years of solid computer building experience, if you have any questions let me know.














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May 6, 2012 2:26:29 PM

After you get the product, you fill out a form, with your purchase invoice and a few other things (newegg will give you instructions) and you mail it in and receive the $ back via visa card or check from the company.

I wrote a lot, but it's worth reading every paragraph.
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May 6, 2012 2:32:16 PM

Yea i'm good now thanks to the knowledge that recon-uk and wr gave to me, my total is $1597.03, which is just perfect.
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May 6, 2012 2:33:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twM0vtKME7w 580 is a much better card. can look at any metro 2033 benchmark, crysis 2 benchmark, there's a lot of different pro's and cons. his 2500k would just be matching a 580gtx in terms of performance, an i7 2700k would be better for a 580gtx, but either way, he can get a 480gtx from EVGA for 209.99. which is 200 cheaper. which in his current rig would probably be the better bet, but the 580gtx dominates the 480 in benchmarks. And the Radeon HD 6970 isn't too horribly close to the 580, it just depends on what he wants to do with said extra 100-200 dollars. since he said he wanted a keyboard and mouse too, I'd suggest dropping the 580 GTX for a 480 GTX and getting your keyboard and mouse, make sure it's EVGA tho for the videocard. Did you even read all of what i wrote up there TheLastSolidSnake?
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May 6, 2012 2:39:48 PM

Been a PC guru since 1989, put together many, many machines from PI 33mhz - i7 2700k's, back when voodoo and rage 3d were the videocards to get radeon makes some of the worst quality cards I've ever seen. like I said above, 70 million people might want to go to a Justin Beiber concert, but doesn't mean he's really anything of quality. Nvidia has had the least Shader problems, the least amount of driver issues, You get what you pay for. I wouldn't recommend ATI to anyone.

It's like pioneer, they make decent receivers / car stereo decks, and 6x9's, but they should of left subwoofers to cerwin vega, JL audio, and fosgates.
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May 6, 2012 2:42:51 PM

But yeah. I'd get the 480 GTX and what I listed up there Snake, hope you saw all that, it was a very quality post.
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May 6, 2012 2:55:55 PM

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Well damn...

I used to use a Vibe space II 15" woofer with a custom enclosure (huge ported box with lots of depth).
And JBL 2000 watt amp, with 2x hifonics zeus mids back in the day when i was in the armed forces.
My room used to bounce!!

Great for a little night in with a few pals :D 
1 10" planet audio 250w 500w peak subwoofer in a probox (go check them out) can out hit 2 12" fosgates. My brother had the 3 JL audio W7 setups in his car. and my 1 10" planet audio in the probox was clearer, and would moved my windshield wiper lever up and down. It normally takes 2 15" to achieve that, or a hatchback with 2 12" of quality. watts and size and brands don't always mean of their quality, like the MTX Jackhammer is 10,000+ watts and 22", one of the biggest subs ever made, and they are absolutely horrible sounding, even in the proper hz range. Depends on what you want/like, cerwins for home theater provide decent mid range, but more low range and are more "boomy" and have very healthy bass with no distortion, however there are other one's I'd recommend for better mid-high range and still offer great sound of bass out of a tower, then buying a 500w power sub for the rest.

Anyways! back on the computer subject, I'd recommend the 480 GTX and then buying your keyboard and mouse with everything I listed above. Hopefully recon will help you understand that my post was very viable and knowledgable :p 
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May 6, 2012 3:01:11 PM

One quick thing about acer monitors, they are, and I say this with the most utmost respect to you recon, they are the daewoo / emachine of the monitor world. They are budget, and low quality, if you are doing things like HDMI and if you notice the difference in quality, the quality difference between a Acer vs LG / Asus / Viewsonic / Hanns G (In that order) Are from different worlds. If Acer is all you can find on the CA site go for it, but if you can squeeze in a little extra for any of the other brands I listed I personally would. Not only are they better quality, but they have better support and better RMA policies and better dead pixel policies and just overall better in quality for like 20 more than that acer
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May 6, 2012 3:06:10 PM

If it were me, I'd squeeze in the extra 20 dollars for an asus/lg/viewsonic. Acer should be ok for you and what you need/want. but if you can push 20 extra dollars more for any of the other brands, I would. The quality is there. 2ms monitors are pretty cheap these days, since they are moving towards the 1ms now. kinda like the 120hz LCD TV's are getting cheaper due to the LED TV's out now.
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May 6, 2012 3:12:44 PM

Mountaindew01 said:
If it were me, I'd squeeze in the extra 20 dollars for an asus/lg/viewsonic. Acer should be ok for you and what you need/want. but if you can push 20 extra dollars more for any of the other brands, I would. The quality is there. 2ms monitors are pretty cheap these days, since they are moving towards the 1ms now. kinda like the 120hz LCD TV's are getting cheaper due to the LED TV's out now.


I never planned on getting a acer, even though recon suggested I decided to get an ASUS way before you came in lol
Here is what I picked.

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
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