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May 8, 2012 2:46:55 AM

Okay so i cant spend more than 3500 i got a 120gb intel 520 series ssd on way in mail i wanna run 2 of those in raid 0 on my new pc i got a few questions about the build i have made on avadirect here is pc i was thinken of getting

INTEL, Core i7-3930K Six-Core, 3.2 - 3.8GHz TB, LGA2011, 12MB L3 Cache, HT EM64T EIST VT XD, 32nm, 130W, Retail
THERMALTAKE, Frio OCK CPU Cooling Fan, Socket 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3/AM2, 240W TDP, Aluminum/Copper
CORSAIR, H100 Hydro CPU Liquid Cooling System, Socket LGA2011/1155/1156/1366/775/AM3/AM2, Retail
NOCTUA, NT-H1 Thermal Compound, 1.4 g
SERVICE, Extreme Overclocking, 20% and Up Performance Increase
ASUS, Sabertooth X79, LGA2011, Intel® X79, DDR3-1866 64GB /8, PCIe x16 SLI CF /2+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, USB 3.0 /6, HDA, GbLAN, FW, ATX, Retail
CORSAIR, 16GB (4 x 4GB) Vengeance™ PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA, GeForce® GTX 690 915MHz, 4GB GDDR5 6008MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 3x DVI + mini-DP, OEM
INTEL, 120GB 520 Series SSD, MLC SandForce SF-2281, 550/500 MB/s, 2.5-Inch w/ 3.5-Inch Bracket, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail
RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
SABRENT, CRW-UINB Black 65-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB
SONY, AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
ANTEC, Dark Fleet DF-85 Black Full Tower Case, w/ Window, ATX, No PSU
CASE FAN, LED Fans Maximum Package, Red
NZXT, Sentry 2 Black Fan Controller, Touch Screen, 5-Channel Fan Controller, 5.25" Bay
CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Precision Cable Routing and Tie-Down
LOGISYS, 12" Single Cold Cathode Case Light Kit, Red
COOLER MASTER, Silent Pro Gold Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 80 PLUS® Gold, 1200W, ATX12V 2.3 EPS12V 2.92, 4x 6-pin + 4x 8/6-pin PCIe, Retail
MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
GAMING PC, Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)
SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex)




and the questions i got are ok if it has the frio can it have the h100 liquid cooling too? or is it an either or type of thing and if it is either or which should i pick ? i never had liquid cooling so id probly think frio but i wanna have it overclocked too so i dunno also is there any other problems with build? i dont wanna upgrade for awhile but when i do i plan to just stick another 690 in sli in couple years or something any advice would be great any ways to make it cheaper maybe


HELP QUICK PLEASE I WANT PC TO PLAY DIABLO 3 lol


also how hard is it to learn how and successfully safely overclock my own cpu? should i just pay them the extra 100$++ to do it? plz replys as quick as possible are greatly appreciated

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May 8, 2012 3:07:52 AM

1 you cant have both the h100 and the frio in at the same time. If you want quiet and cool the h100 is excellent. If you want to save some money get the frio. its unlikely either will have an impact on your overclock.

2 overclocking is as easy as going into the bios and changing the multiplier from 32 to 33, the 34, then 35 ... and finding your max overclock by testing at each level. No need to spend $100

3 diablo 3 runs fine on even a phnomii with a gtx460. You dont need a 6 core monster (and expensive as hell) to play games. Drop down to a i5-2500k (or an i7-2600k is you simply must have an i7) The games will play just as well and you'll save several hundred towards that other gtx 680 you want.

I would also switch to a 2x8gb memory arrangement. easier upgrade down the road plus no heat spreader issue to really worry about.
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May 8, 2012 3:15:36 AM

gtx 690 the dual gpu one i want it to be a good gaming cpu for like next 5years lol i dont wanna upgrade for long time and ty that deffinatly saves money ill use the frio i kinda want the 2011 socket i heard its way better of course im not really sure i just always wanted a super sick pc that will be sick for awhile
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May 8, 2012 6:08:12 AM

$3000 to play D3??

Lol
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May 8, 2012 6:41:47 AM

bearclaw99 said:
$3000 to play D3??

Lol


He just wants to be future proof, but I do think $3000-$3500 and LGA 2011 is a bit much for a pure gaming system. To each their own, I suppose, but if he has the money, I won't discourage him from it.
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May 8, 2012 6:47:10 AM

Oh I know...D3 just sounds funny after the listing of a top end rig (which I must admit looks nice)
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May 8, 2012 6:47:30 AM

overkill, and a waste. completely overkill.

This, is how you spend money on a rig that will still last you 3 years.

i5 3770k
GTX 680
Z77 Asus Sabertooth
16GB corsair vengeance 1600 RAM
Corsair AX850W
120GB SSD
2TB HDD
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May 8, 2012 6:50:03 AM

ok so i dont need LGA 2011? like is the differance really so small i wont notice for gaming? should i just save the money and go down graded? i keep getting told that so im starting to think its probly true but most that price tag comes from the gtx 690 i want anyway .... so im just not sure which parts to go overkill on which will make me have the best pc for longest for best price i guess i dunno.... i already bought a 120gb ssd intel 520series lol i jumped the gun on that so gotta have another of those in raid 0 is really only thing and i kinda want the gtx 690 cuz it sounds so beastly but i really dont need 2011? how much of diff will i see between 2011 and the other?
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May 8, 2012 6:52:32 AM

U absolutely dont need 6 cores for Gaming. it's stupid. You don't need a GTX 690. Mate, it may make u feel good about yourself, but you are wasting your money. Get a 680. Once again, DON'T GET THE 690 unless you plan on running 3x30" monitors or something crazy like that.

You're not going to be using the 690 to it's full potential unless you do 5760x1080 or something
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May 8, 2012 6:55:34 AM

It is a better idea to do 2 (or even 3 builds) over the next 5 years instead of one overkill one now. Spread the money around a bit instead of all at once. That way, in 5 yrs, you'll still have something high end as opposed to an outdated 5 yr old machine

Truth is, the build suggested by constepadyak is a lot cheaper, and you will really notice zero difference between that build and yours for quite a long time as far as games are concerned
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May 8, 2012 6:57:53 AM

i wanted to play on m 40inch 1080p hdtv as monitor and run all games at max graphics the thing is if i get the 690 then when i wanna upgrade i already got 1 so i can just second for sli .....but by the time i need to upgrade will my purchase of the 690 been pointless and i should of got 680? .... sorry im pretty newb at this you are all being very helpfull and sounds like may be saving me alot
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May 8, 2012 7:00:55 AM

i think i will use that build actually that sounds perfect and way cheaper! .... now should i get liquid cooling or fan? and avadirect says that they dont offer intel performance tuning protection but they got best prices at the moment and offer to insure thier own overclocking and do it at 100fee should i have them overclock? or get from someone else maybe?
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May 8, 2012 7:01:08 AM

shaun4work said:
i wanted to play on m 40inch 1080p hdtv as monitor and run all games at max graphics the thing is if i get the 690 then when i wanna upgrade i already got 1 so i can just second for sli .....but by the time i need to upgrade will my purchase of the 690 been pointless and i should of got 680? .... sorry im pretty newb at this you are all being very helpfull and sounds like may be saving me alot


You'd be better off saving $1000 by getting a 680 now, and another in SLI later if needed
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May 8, 2012 7:07:24 AM

oh do i need a fullsize tower or would a mid tower be okay? amd should i pay extra for the evga 680 overclocked? if so how much extra cuz that means i gotta get pc from like digital storm or something so changes price an components a bit wow the price already way lower TY
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May 8, 2012 7:19:19 AM

Best answer selected by shaun4work.
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May 8, 2012 7:21:14 AM

yeah i guess constepatdyak answered it best with that suggested build cuz i think ill end up going with basicly that TY!! you save me alot
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May 8, 2012 7:49:42 AM

I see the common trend of bucking the Nvidia horse has continued, some things to note. The GTX 680 have very limited models available, the twin frozr's and DirectCU cards are non existant right now. The standard cards may have higher clocks and better stock performance but run into heat issues and performance glitching when overclocked. The cost $500+ depending on the model. At best 5% improvement at stock clocks. Low watt usage for nvidia but still rather high. For $450 you can pick up a HD7970 and that will be a high end 7970, or you can pick up a Sapphire Toxic Edition HD 7950 OC card, which overclocks like a beast for well less than a 7970. Also the Zero Core technology is fantastic when you are not gaming or benching, litterally crossfired 7970's will use more or less idle wattage than a single GTX 680.


Personally I would wait on the GTX 670's and see the reviews before making a Graphics card decision, my testing on the Kepler cards has been underwhelming at best, I was really expecting more.
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May 8, 2012 9:54:07 AM

woha, way to throw money out of the window XD

$1500 is all that's needed to build a PC; sounds to me like this guy has never owned one before.
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May 8, 2012 5:39:43 PM

1500 and u can build a pc that will run all current games at max graphics and run stable 24/7?
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May 8, 2012 6:05:39 PM

shaun4work said:
1500 and u can build a pc that will run all current games at max graphics and run stable 24/7?


Pretty much.
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May 8, 2012 6:20:27 PM

meh im gunna go with the suggested build from constepatdyak for around 2300 probly i wanna make sure i can run all games at max for awhile i dont have money to buy a new pc ever year or even every other 2 or 3 i need to hope this lasts
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May 8, 2012 9:21:06 PM

Just to let everyone know this is what i ended up getting TY for all your input you all saved me quite alot around 800ish

INTEL, Core™ i7-3770K Quad-Core 3.5 - 3.9GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 8MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST HT VT-x XD, Retail
THERMALTAKE, Frio OCK CPU Cooling Fan, Socket 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3/AM2, 240W TDP, Aluminum/Copper
NOCTUA, NT-H1 Thermal Compound, 1.4 g
SERVICE, Extreme Overclocking, 20% and Up Performance Increase
ASUS, Sabertooth Z77, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-1866 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, DP + HDMI, USB 3.0 /6, HDA, GbLAN, ATX, Retail
CORSAIR, 16GB (4 x 4GB) Vengeance™ PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA, GeForce® GTX 680 Superclocked 1058MHz, 2GB GDDR5 6208MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI + HDMI + DP, OEM
INTEL, 120GB 520 Series SSD, MLC SandForce SF-2281, 550/500 MB/s, 2.5-Inch w/ 3.5-Inch Bracket, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail
RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
SABRENT, CRW-UINB Black 65-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB
SONY, AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
BIGFOOT NETWORKS, Killer™ 2100 Network Card, 400MHz NPU, 10/100/1000 Mbps, 128MB DDR2, PCIe x1, Retail
COOLER MASTER, HAF X (RC-942-KKN1) Black Tower Case w/ Window, EATX, 9 Slots, No PSU, Steel/Plastic
CASE FAN, LED Fans Maximum Package, Red
NZXT, Sentry 2 Black Fan Controller, Touch Screen, 5-Channel Fan Controller, 5.25" Bay
CUSTOM WIRING, Split Loom Wire Management with Round Cables, Red
LOGISYS, 12" Single Cold Cathode Case Light Kit, Red
CORSAIR, AX850 Gold Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 850W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V v2.31 EPS12V 2.92, Multi-GPU Ready
MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
GAMING PC, Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)
SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex)
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May 8, 2012 9:21:53 PM

they didnt have 2x8gb for the ram :( 
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May 8, 2012 9:46:13 PM

Thats not a big deal, until you get into editing /rendering videos you wont really have a need for 32gb.
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May 8, 2012 9:53:10 PM

what about the extra heat from 4 instead of 2 is that gunna be too much? and should i of went with the liquid cooling or is the frio good enuff?
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May 8, 2012 11:19:56 PM

Extra heat from RAM is negligible. In other words, there are bigger things to worry about.
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May 9, 2012 2:26:08 AM

had few issues with build had to switch to LP ram ended up with this
INTEL, Core™ i7-3770K Quad-Core 3.5 - 3.9GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 8MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST HT VT-x XD, Retail
THERMALTAKE, Frio OCK CPU Cooling Fan, Socket 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3/AM2, 240W TDP, Aluminum/Copper
NOCTUA, NT-H1 Thermal Compound, 1.4 g
SERVICE, Extreme Overclocking, 20% and Up Performance Increase
ASUS, Sabertooth Z77, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-1866 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, DP + HDMI, USB 3.0 /6, HDA, GbLAN, ATX, Retail
CORSAIR, 16GB (4 x 4GB) Vengeance™ LP PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.35V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
EVGA, GeForce® GTX 680 Superclocked 1058MHz, 2GB GDDR5 6208MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI + HDMI + DP, OEM
INTEL, 120GB 520 Series SSD, MLC SandForce SF-2281, 550/500 MB/s, 2.5-Inch w/ 3.5-Inch Bracket, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail
RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
SABRENT, CRW-UINB Black 65-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB
SONY, AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM
BIGFOOT NETWORKS, Killer™ 2100 Network Card, 400MHz NPU, 10/100/1000 Mbps, 128MB DDR2, PCIe x1, Retail
COOLER MASTER, HAF X (RC-942-KKN1) Black Tower Case w/ Window, EATX, 9 Slots, No PSU, Steel/Plastic
CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Precision Cable Routing and Tie-Down
LOGISYS, 12" Single Cold Cathode Case Light Kit, Red
CORSAIR, AX850 Gold Power Supply w/ Modular Cables, 850W, 80 PLUS®, 24-pin ATX12V v2.31 EPS12V 2.92, Multi-GPU Ready
MICROSOFT, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
GAMING PC, Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)
SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex)
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May 9, 2012 2:28:21 AM

also is this hard drive the same as the ssd in the cpu i built?

Intel 520 Series Cherryville SSDSC2CW120A3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)


will i be able to run these in raid 0?
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May 9, 2012 10:17:57 PM

yes they are the same,
yes you can run in raid 0

are you aware that TRIM is not supported on these drives in raid 0 yet?
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May 9, 2012 10:22:28 PM

i have never had an ssd so do not know what TRIM is really so i dont think ill miss it lol i just want speed :)  ty im glad they are same lol i got confused for a sec an thought i ordered wrong thing
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