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What Just Happend? I Think My Graphics Killed My Power

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January 28, 2012 7:02:15 AM

I don't know what i did i recently built a pc with theses
AMD FX-8120
8GB DDR3 SDRAM (2 x 4gb)
x1 250 Sata III HDD
x1 DVD Drive
X2 120mm Fans, There Not The Sam Kinds
The last thing is the graphics card the i did not list the motherboard either because it does not matter but anyways my graphics were evga nvidia geforce 8400gs which did not handle games well (minecraft was alright 20 fps-30 fps on prefferd settings), when i got my new amd radeon hd 6870 saphire it took 2 6 pin connectors which it came with x2 4 pin (the 4 pin that fans use and stuff) to 6 pin and i used my PC for about 1-3 hours and after taking time to get my free dirt 3 game downloaded and figured out i left my room for 5-10 minutes i came back and my computer was off i turned it on agin and the power light glowed really fast and then i smelled buring all over and my power supply seems dead now i don't know if i broke any parts but my power was 500w i saw a sticker on the side that said "5V + 12V MAX POWER 195 Watts TOTAL MAX POWER 500 Watts" and so i think that might have been the problem i orderd a 750w power supply it's moduler and has x4 6pin connectors and x4 6+4 pin connectors it was $115, on sale for $90 and a rebate then $70 and great reviews so this is a bad problem now that you know what happend what do you think happend can you please awnser these mainly.

What Do You Think Happend?
What Did I Smell?
Is It Bad To Sleep In My Room Where The Power Supply Broke?
Is The 12V The Power My Card Was Taking From?
Could Anything Could Have Been Damaged?

This Is A Power Supply Issue And I Orderd A New Power Supply So If Everythings Good Then When It Comes In The Mail Ill Be Happy.
January 28, 2012 7:10:42 AM

From your perspective... yep, you just fried your PSU. *Ouch*

.... I would recommend 800~850W just to be sure. But, I would also recommend you to equip your plugs with Surge Protected Socket.


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January 28, 2012 7:16:36 AM

Lol 800w, wtf? I'm not sure about fx-8120's power consumption, but i reckon a GOOD 500-550w would work, maybe even less. And yeah, i think your PSU died. The problem was probably not the wattage, but the quality of the PSU.
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
January 28, 2012 7:18:37 AM

What power supply did you have? You do not need anywhere near 800 watts lol. For 1 x HD 6870 you need at most 550 watts. I would say 500w but those Bulldozer chips are power hungry. Stick with Corsair, Seasonic, PC Power and Cooling, XFX, Enermax, Silverstone or Antec and you will be ok.
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January 28, 2012 7:27:53 AM

Get 600W quality PSU and you don't have to worry about power consumption anymore.
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January 28, 2012 7:33:42 AM

laircouk said:
From your perspective... yep, you just fried your PSU. *Ouch*

.... I would recommend 800~850W just to be sure. But, I would also recommend you to equip your plugs with Surge Protected Socket.

ok but i already bought a moduler 750w power supply that should do it i bought my case and power supply together and pushed it to far so that's that. other people said 500w-550w should be great but i can add more stuuf now maybe an ssd or another video card and these power hungry parts will work great.

quick question, what's the difference between a 4 pin cpu power cable and a 8 pin?
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
January 28, 2012 4:12:40 PM

melikepie said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
heres the newegg link to the power supply



I hate to be the one telling you this but you bought a piece of junk. If you can send it back you can do MUCH better. Basically the reviews say it's so bad it can damage your components.


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-...

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


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quick question, what's the difference between a 4 pin cpu power cable and a 8 pin?


Some motherboards have a 4 pin connector for CPU power and some have an 8 pin connector.
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a c 122 B Homebuilt system
January 28, 2012 4:22:49 PM

Yes, the complete TR2 line is, well, excessively mediocre. An XFX 650 watt PSU is about the same price and a much better PSU.
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January 28, 2012 4:27:05 PM

melikepie said:
ok but i already bought a moduler 750w power supply that should do it i bought my case and power supply together and pushed it to far so that's that. other people said 500w-550w should be great but i can add more stuuf now maybe an ssd or another video card and these power hungry parts will work great.

quick question, what's the difference between a 4 pin cpu power cable and a 8 pin?


That looks GREAT! 750W PSU is good and it should give other equipment extra capacity if needed.
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January 28, 2012 7:48:45 PM

anort3 said:
I hate to be the one telling you this but you bought a piece of junk. If you can send it back you can do MUCH better. Basically the reviews say it's so bad it can damage your components.


http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-...

http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx


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quick question, what's the difference between a 4 pin cpu power cable and a 8 pin?


Some motherboards have a 4 pin connector for CPU power and some have an 8 pin connector.

Well anyway this should be good anyway i might even run crossfirex sometime but for now this is good
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
January 28, 2012 8:55:18 PM

I would get rid of it. Hardwaresecrets and jonnyguru are the 2 best review sites for power supplies on the internet and if they say it's dangerous I would believe them. You sure do not want to overclock anything with ripple and noise being so out of spec. This is the kind of power supply that kills your CPU, graphics card and motherboard.
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January 29, 2012 3:55:35 AM

anort3 said:
I would get rid of it. Hardwaresecrets and jonnyguru are the 2 best review sites for power supplies on the internet and if they say it's dangerous I would believe them. You sure do not want to overclock anything with ripple and noise being so out of spec. This is the kind of power supply that kills your CPU, graphics card and motherboard.


Anort3, in the end, it's his computer and his choice. The only thing we can do is suggest what is best and let him decide. :) 


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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
January 29, 2012 4:13:57 AM

laircouk said:
Anort3, in the end, it's his computer and his choice. The only thing we can do is suggest what is best and let him decide. :) 



We can also do things like not pull power supply numbers out of seeming thin air or tell someone who might not know they did GREAT when in fact they bought a sub par product that might damage their computer. In fact I did not see "we" suggest anything in the OPs best interest unless you mean myself, 4eyed and Jsc.
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February 4, 2012 11:50:48 PM

It's says bronze but anyway is this really that bad?
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February 4, 2012 11:53:54 PM

anort3 said:
We can also do things like not pull power supply numbers out of seeming thin air or tell someone who might not know they did GREAT when in fact they bought a sub par product that might damage their computer. In fact I did not see "we" suggest anything in the OPs best interest unless you mean myself, 4eyed and Jsc.

I don't think this is to bad of a product i mean it did not kill my computer yet but for some reson my cpu seems overvolted by 0.1V which i think is AMD turbo core because when the voltage changes the clock speed does to but anyway it seems great i mean whats the sings of a bad power supply? I really don't care about returning it but it takes to long.
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2012 12:41:26 AM

Look there are 2 sites on the internet that are the standard in power supply testing. Jonnyguru and HardwareSecrets. Most other sites take a power supply out of the box and if it looks shiny and does not blow up their computer they give it a good review.

So did you actually read the HardwareSecrets review of your power supply? If you don't read the whole article at least read the summary page.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-...

That is one of the worst reviews I have ever seen. The power supply is the single most important part of your computer. If it can't deliver the correct voltages in the correct ranges it can and will destroy parts of your computer. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but why risk it?

If you plan on any overclocking then it is even more important that you have a power supply with low noise and ripple. You should put as much, if not more research into what power supply you buy as you do into what CPU, motherboard, RAM and video card.
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February 5, 2012 12:44:14 AM

anort3 said:
Look there are 2 sites on the internet that are the standard in power supply testing. Jonnyguru and HardwareSecrets. Most other sites take a power supply out of the box and if it looks shiny and does not blow up their computer they give it a good review.

So did you actually read the HardwareSecrets review of your power supply? If you don't read the whole article at least read the summary page.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermaltake-TR2-...

That is one of the worst reviews I have ever seen. The power supply is the single most important part of your computer. If it can't deliver the correct voltages in the correct ranges it can and will destroy parts of your computer. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow but why risk it?

If you plan on any overclocking then it is even more important that you have a power supply with low noise and ripple. You should put as much, if not more research into what power supply you buy as you do into what CPU, motherboard, RAM and video card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is this good? the thing though that im wooried about is it said japeneese capciters? im not an expert but that sounds scary, what do you reccomend that would work? (japeneese capaciters is listed as a feuture)
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
February 5, 2012 12:57:47 AM

That is an excellent power supply. Very high quality. Japanese capacitors are much higher quality than Chinese capacitors.

If you want to stay modular this is a good choice as well and on sale for a good price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Either the XFX or the PC Power and Cooling are a huge improvement on what you have.

This list is not perfect but power supplies are listed based on ripple and noise. Basically how in spec they are. As you can see both these are tier 2 while the one you have now is tier 5 ( do not buy ).


http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx
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February 5, 2012 1:05:00 AM

anort3 said:
That is an excellent power supply. Very high quality. Japanese capacitors are much higher quality than Chinese capacitors.

If you want to stay modular this is a good choice as well and on sale for a good price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Either the XFX or the PC Power and Cooling are a huge improvement on what you have.

This list is not perfect but power supplies are listed based on ripple and noise. Basically how in spec they are. As you can see both these are tier 2 while the one you have now is tier 5 ( do not buy ).


http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

well im stuck using my power supply right now as im typing my motherboard is a msi 990XA-GD55 AM3+ do you think this will last playing dirt 3 while im waiting or not use a computer, my other choice is use a 3700+ so no. I really don't know what to use like which power supply might work better for crossfire?
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February 5, 2012 1:24:44 AM

anort3 said:
That is an excellent power supply. Very high quality. Japanese capacitors are much higher quality than Chinese capacitors.

If you want to stay modular this is a good choice as well and on sale for a good price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Either the XFX or the PC Power and Cooling are a huge improvement on what you have.

This list is not perfect but power supplies are listed based on ripple and noise. Basically how in spec they are. As you can see both these are tier 2 while the one you have now is tier 5 ( do not buy ).


http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

is the 600w moduler one any good for crossfire and overclocking?
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February 5, 2012 1:55:47 AM

melikepie said:
is the 600w moduler one any good for crossfire and overclocking?


That 600w model will be enough for overclocking but cutting it too close for crossfire. For 6870s in crossfire AND overclocking you'll probably want a quality 700-750 watt unit.

Some high quality units that are well priced...

Antec Earthwatts 750w - $84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Corsair TX 750w - $104.99 --> $89.99 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX Core Edition PRO750W - $114.99 --> $89.99 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: To be honest though I wouldn't crossfire 6870s anyways. From my experience they micro stutter like crazy in a lot of games. Its always better to have a strong single card than two weaker ones.
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February 5, 2012 6:53:46 AM

anort3 said:
That is an excellent power supply. Very high quality. Japanese capacitors are much higher quality than Chinese capacitors.

If you want to stay modular this is a good choice as well and on sale for a good price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Either the XFX or the PC Power and Cooling are a huge improvement on what you have.

This list is not perfect but power supplies are listed based on ripple and noise. Basically how in spec they are. As you can see both these are tier 2 while the one you have now is tier 5 ( do not buy ).


http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
do you think this is good i might sometime use crossfire so im not exactly sure, this is a corsair so this should be good other then that im just trying to get a awnser i might even overclock sometime si yeah.
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