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May 12, 2012 12:34:42 AM

Hello All,

Good Day! Hope all is well.

I am new to this page. I just wanna ask if how can i check if my system is stable. Here are the specs:

Asus M5A88V EVO
AMD Phenom II (tm) X4 B55 (originally purchased AMD athlon X3 - then got unlocked by Mobo to X4 B55)
Kingston Hyper X (2x8GB) - 2 sticks
Cooler Master 500W

Thanks! I'll appreciate all responses!

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May 12, 2012 3:17:50 AM

To test CPU stability, a stress testing utility like Prime95 would be a good bet. Run a CPU torture test with that for somewhere between 12 and 24 hours. If Prime95 does not report any errors, and you don't suffer any system crashes or BSODs, then it is a good bet that your CPU is stable.

Be advised that Prime95 can make the CPU run very hot, so you will want to monitor your temperatures with a monitoring program like HWMonitor or CoreTemp. If your temps get too high, I believe 63 degrees celsius is the maximum safe temp for AMD CPUs. Stop the test if your temps get higher than that.
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May 12, 2012 3:19:02 AM

Use this...http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Info/SiSoftw...

it has many tools for stress and stability testing as well as benchmarking...also Intel burn test http://downloads.guru3d.com/IntelBurnTest-v2.3-download...
for indepth cpu stress testing and for ram...use http://pcsupport.about.com/od/toolsofthetrade/tp/memory...

look for the download link middle of the page.

For your gpu....depends on the make nvidia or amd.


Good luck and have fu!
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May 12, 2012 3:27:42 AM

The honest best test of stability is going to be every day use. My 4.5GHz overclock was stable from Prime 95 (12 hours) and 6 hours of Intel Burn In test using 1.28v but when I would do random stuff I would get a BSoD. Turned out 1.30v was the number.

I would suggest as well 3DMark, PCMark web browsing, videos anything that will randomly stress your system to test true stability.
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May 12, 2012 3:32:49 AM

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The honest best test of stability is going to be every day use. My 4.5GHz overclock was stable from Prime 95 (12 hours) and 6 hours of Intel Burn In test using 1.28v but when I would do random stuff I would get a BSoD. Turned out 1.30v was the number.


+1 I've experienced exactly the same thing. OC's that were totally stable in Prime and IBT, but randomly crashed doing basically nothing.
May 12, 2012 3:35:42 AM

I like to run linx. Which is very similar to prime95. However, like supernova said this is a very intense test. I also like to run 3d mark06 because its more of a general test which will still stress your cpu. This is just my opinion I feel like linx for 12+ hours is overkill. When is your cpu going to run at 100% load for like 90% of 12 hours, but if it can you have def got something stable. All though I don't think you will set any bench records with a PC that stable.
May 14, 2012 5:08:56 PM

thanks for the response..i just got confused because when i checked my system..it's running 799.99 MHz (200.00 x 4) - all in all, i got 4 of these. But it says on the details of my cpu posted above that I have 4 cores approx 3.3 GHz..i saw some threads that per core, they do have (800 x 4) running in quad core..just checking if i got a busted cpu (details posted above) - we unlocked it from athlon X3 to phenom II X4 B55..does it mean that my cpu isnot running properly? Thanks for all your responses by the way. Appreciate it!
May 14, 2012 10:23:45 PM

also, to add up...when i ran the windows index experience, my rating for the CPU and RAM is 3.7 and 4.6 respectively. As posted above, i'm running 4 cores and 8 gb of RAM so just wondering why is the score unacceptable. I'm under the impression that there's a problem with my CPU and RAM. When I ran my AMD athlon x2 dual core 5600 2.8 GHZ before, the rating was around 6-6.8. Can someone help me regarding this? Both items were bought as brand new. Thank you so much!
May 14, 2012 11:06:46 PM

The wording of your post is confusing and I don't use AMD CPU so i really dont have the knowledge to answer your question. You should go into your bios and check what your setting are at. My terminology might be wrong but the 200.00 is your front side bus speed and the 4 is ur cpu multiplier or ratio. An 800 FSB seems crazy to me but like I said I dont use AMD. Check this thread http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/264583-29-help-phenom...
This guy got 3.6 by setting his multiplier to 19. I think from the pics it looks like CPUZ has his volts at 1.464. Obviously be careful when setting your volts you dont want to fry your chip. as far as unlocking your amd CPU I know nothing bout it. Anyways like we said run linx or prime 95 for a while if it doesn't stop on error, blue screen or over heat then you have a stable system. The real test is general use like people have said. If after a week of using your computer turning it on or off maybe running it for several hours straight and you get no blue screens your golden for the most part. Even if you get a blue screen maybe once in a long while thats still fine. As for the windows index experience it complete bull. That again probably relates to your bios settings.
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May 14, 2012 11:13:01 PM

kamotekid said:
also, to add up...when i ran the windows index experience, my rating for the CPU and RAM is 3.7 and 4.6 respectively. As posted above, i'm running 4 cores and 8 gb of RAM so just wondering why is the score unacceptable. I'm under the impression that there's a problem with my CPU and RAM. When I ran my AMD athlon x2 dual core 5600 2.8 GHZ before, the rating was around 6-6.8. Can someone help me regarding this? Both items were bought as brand new. Thank you so much!


I wouldn't really put to much into the WEI. It's so over rated. For CPU stability run Prime 95 and stress test it with small FFT's.
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May 14, 2012 11:16:18 PM

Wait, so you're saying it won't go any higher than 800Mhz, even under load?
May 14, 2012 11:47:57 PM

guys, i appreciate all your responses. thank you so much. hopefully someone can help me. i got a brand new mobo, cpu, ram and PSU. what concerns me is that when i opened core temp at home, i got 4 core running even when i checked in task manager, 4 cores running. from core temp i got core 0, 1 , 2 and 3 all of them running max of 799.99 (i presume this is the core speed) and next to it i believe is the bus speed (200 x 4) with approx 1.12V. i haven't overclocked the system, just typical setup.
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May 14, 2012 11:50:33 PM

So it never goes above 800Mhz (799.99, but it's the same thing, lol) even under a load, like when loaded by a program like Prime 95? (Look at the speed with CPU-Z while doing the test)
May 14, 2012 11:57:32 PM

sorry guys if my posts were confusing, i'm not a techie person. one that bothers me is that based on the specs given by the windows, i'm running amd phenom II (tm) x4 b55 processor propus approx 3.3GHz (this proc got unlocked from amd athlon x3 when i bought Asus M5A88V - EVO since this board has an unlocker. i got confused by the core threads listed (core speed is 799-800MHz per core with 200x4) i'm not sure if these are correct. thanks!
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May 14, 2012 11:59:56 PM

What's confusing is that you're not answering my question, lol. I need to know if you're saying it NEVER goes above 799.99 AT ANY POINT. It's supposed to be 800Mhz (again 799.99 is the same thing) at idle.
May 15, 2012 12:02:52 AM

@djdecibeL - nope..i haven't tried running prime 95 because i don't know how to use it. i'm relatively new to this kind of issue. i don't know how to overclock system so i think i just got the standard multiplier w/c is 4 (200x4) - i saw some stuff online and they got 8 and 16, some got 19 and so forth. all i want to know is that, did i get a busted cpu or it's just that i haven't maximized the capabilities of my cpu? thanks!
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May 15, 2012 12:05:07 AM

kamotekid said:
@djdecibeL - nope..i haven't tried running prime 95 because i don't know how to use it. i'm relatively new to this kind of issue. i don't know how to overclock system so i think i just got the standard multiplier w/c is 4 (200x4) - i saw some stuff online and they got 8 and 16, some got 19 and so forth. all i want to know is that, did i get a busted cpu or it's just that i haven't maximized the capabilities of my cpu? thanks!


You NEED to test it first for me to tell you if the CPU is the problem or not. Like I said, it's SUPPOSED to be 200 x 4 at idle.
May 15, 2012 12:05:12 AM

thanks djdecibeL. from what i can recall, i didn't go higher than that at idle. haven't tried any software/applications that will test my system's capabilities. should it go higher than 800MHz?
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May 15, 2012 12:06:56 AM

kamotekid said:
thanks djdecibeL. from what i can recall, i didn't go higher than that at idle. haven't tried any software/applications that will test my system's capabilities. should it go higher than 800MHz?


Yes, at 100% usage, it should be at full speed.
May 15, 2012 12:12:20 AM

freq #0: 800MHz (200 x 4) - with little load approx 10 - 25%
freq #1: 800MHz (200 x 4) - with little load approx 10 - 25%
freq #2: 800MHz (200 x 4) - with little load approx 10 - 25%
freq #3: 800MHz (200 x 4) - with little load approx 10 - 25%

-is this the standard setup for quad cores?
May 15, 2012 12:16:20 AM

sorry it's hard to explain since i'm in the office right now and i don't have internet at home. i can see some posts online like this with the same specs

freq #0: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #1: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #2: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #3: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -

does this mean they overclocked their system?

-appreciate your help djdecibeL
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May 15, 2012 12:16:32 AM

Well, I would think it should be at least jumping around some. Did this happen when it was still an X3? If not, then that would tell you that the 4th core was locked for a reason. You're lucky it even unlocked because they're usually locked because their faulty.
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May 15, 2012 12:22:01 AM

kamotekid said:
sorry it's hard to explain since i'm in the office right now and i don't have internet at home. i can see some posts online like this with the same specs

freq #0: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #1: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #2: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -
freq #3: 3200MHz (200 x 16) -

does this mean they overclocked their system?

-appreciate your help djdecibeL


I'm not sure what the exact default speed is, but no, I don't think those are OC'd numbers. OC'd would be more like 4000Mhz.
May 15, 2012 12:22:06 AM

we haven't tried running it with tri core. when we assembled the system, enabled the settings in the bios for core unlocker, restarted the system and bios said, 4 cores are activated then we installed pc wizard 2012 to check for temperature, after that i installed core temp, then i saw those numbers posted above. i haven't configured any settings for overclocking..well not that i'm aware of. what's the first step that i can do to check that all parts we bought were in good condition? run the test?
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May 15, 2012 12:24:18 AM

Yeah, just run a stress test. If it stays at 800Mhz, no matter what you do, just lock the 4th core back and keep it as an X3.
May 15, 2012 12:24:30 AM

so meaning i am way too far from those #s posted above? 800MHz (200 x 4)..hmmm...what do you is the best way to test it? or should i do a configuration first?
May 15, 2012 12:27:20 AM

when we unlocked the 4th core, i was under the impression that since we have 4 cores running this will give us a value of around 3,300MHz per core since based on the specs of my cpu, x4 b55 processor approx 3.3GHz
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May 15, 2012 12:27:32 AM

Just run Prime 95. It's seriously not hard, just one button press (on "OK") as soon as it opens, then to stop it, in the menu bar click "Test" and in the menu, click "Stop".
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May 15, 2012 12:28:48 AM

kamotekid said:
when we unlocked the 4th core, i was under the impression that since we have 4 cores running this will give us a value of around 3,300MHz per core since based on the specs of my cpu, x4 b55 processor approx 3.3GHz


It should, IF it is a sucessful unlock. Like I said, the 4th core may have been locked because it was faulty (the main reason, usually).
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May 15, 2012 12:29:53 AM

Don't forget to also download HWmonitor because you want to keep track of your temps when stress testing.
May 15, 2012 12:30:15 AM

yeah but should i change my settings first? like the multiplier, voltage core to make it @ 3200MHz (200 x 16) or should i stay @ 800MHz (200 x 4)? do you have a link sir? thanks!
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May 15, 2012 12:32:00 AM

There should be no reason to change anything. It's automatic, if working correctly.
May 15, 2012 12:42:35 AM

thanks for the link. for prime 95, i can just download the application online right? for the 4th core that you said, locked and faulty? but when i checked it in my task manager, i got 4 cores running, does it mean that the reason we got it unlocked is because it's faulty?
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May 15, 2012 12:46:45 AM

kamotekid said:
thanks for the link. for prime 95, i can just download the application online right? for the 4th core that you said, locked and faulty? but when i checked it in my task manager, i got 4 cores running, does it mean that the reason we got it unlocked is because it's faulty?


Yes you can just google it and it will come up. Just make sure you're downloading the latest version. Just because the computer turns on and seems to work doesn't mean the 4th core is 100% stable. The best way to test stablilty is to use Prime 95. If it's unstable it will tell you there is a problem or will give you a BSoD.
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May 15, 2012 12:47:40 AM

Yeah, just download Prime 95 like that too. And what I'm saying about the 4th core is that the reason it was locked in the first place is probably because it was faulty at the factory, so they just locked it to make an X3 chip. Just because you were able to unlock the core and you see 4 cores that makes it look like a successful unlock, doesn't mean that it was TRULY successful.
May 15, 2012 12:58:11 AM

oh i see..i got your point. thanks! i'll try to run with the system with the same settings that i posted above (800MHz: 200 x 4) instead of changing it to 3200MHz (200 x 16) and see how it goes from there. again, as per advised, it will give me errors, BSOD and etc if unstable right? but for how many hours do you think it's logical to do that?
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May 15, 2012 1:00:21 AM

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again, as per advised, it will give me errors, BSOD and etc if unstable right?


Yep, that's right. And honestly 1 hour should do it. If the 4th core is really faulty, it shouldn't even take that long.
May 15, 2012 1:07:41 AM

honestly, i'm kind of scared in running the test and eventually found out that my components are busted. so am good with just 2 tools: prime 95 and HWmonitor right? do i have to very the logs if there will be any or just wait for the BSOD and errors?
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May 15, 2012 1:25:18 AM

kamotekid said:
honestly, i'm kind of scared in running the test and eventually found out that my components are busted. so am good with just 2 tools: prime 95 and HWmonitor right? do i have to very the logs if there will be any or just wait for the BSOD and errors?


Just watch for errors and BSOD. If either one happens, it doesn't mean that everything is broken lol, it just means that you need to re-lock the 4th core. BSOD's and the errors reported in Prime are harmless, they just indicate an issue (the faulty 4th core, in this case). If it it's faulty, it's faulty. Nothing you can do about that but re-lock it. You weren't guaranteed to be able to use the 4th core anyway. If you wanted a quad core, you should have just gotten one to begin with, lol.
May 15, 2012 1:29:27 AM

thank you so much sir. I'll keep you posted regarding this. I might end up returning my parts to the store.. =(
May 15, 2012 5:15:56 PM

i ran prime95 ver26.6 for around 2 hours as advised..no errors, no BSOD..temp is around 43-46 (CPU) and 44-46 (mobo) - based on pc probe II and for HW monitor - CPU is same as pc probe II..core temp is almost the same but 1 thing that bothers me is that core temp window says:

freq #0 (800.00MHZ: 200 x 4)
freq #1 (800.00MHZ: 200 x 4)
freq #2 (800.00MHZ: 200 x 4)
freq #3 (800.00MHZ: 200 x 4)

should i go beyond this multiplier and range? should i ran "torture test"?
May 15, 2012 5:24:45 PM

1 more thing also, looks like a got a voltage drop based on PC PROBE II..vcore started 1.12 then dropped to 0.83 and the threshold for the vcore in PC probe II is 1.6v - 0.80 (maybe that's the reason i received a warning because of the voltage drop but is this connected with the test or it's matter of configuring pc probe for the vcore?. that setting is the default one when we first assembled the pc with the PSU. Thanks!
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May 15, 2012 6:15:08 PM

OK, it still looks like it's not going above 800Mhz though. Re-lock the 4th core and try it again. Like I said earlier, you shouldn't NEED to change ANY settings. If it's working correctly, it will be automatic. And the voltage drop is expected when torture testing (vdroop), but since the cores are never going above 800Mhz, that's why it's so low.

I suppose you COULD set the multiplier and Vcore manually, but you really shouldn't need to. This is either the motherboard not liking the unlocked CPU or the unlocked CPU not working correctly. Either way, I think you should just re-lock the 4th core and be done with it.
May 15, 2012 6:29:14 PM

am i suppose to get a higher value than with what i'm getting: 800MHz - full load?
May 15, 2012 6:29:58 PM

but i didn't receive any errors or BSOD..hmmm..
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May 15, 2012 6:30:50 PM

kamotekid said:
am i suppose to get a higher value than with what i'm getting: 800MHz - full load?


Yep, it should be full speed (although I don't personally know what that is that CPU, but I KNOW it's higher than 800Mhz, lol).
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May 15, 2012 6:32:43 PM

I telling you, just re-lock the 4th core and try the stress test again. That will help and tell us if the 4th core being unlocked was the problem..
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