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January 30, 2012 11:33:33 AM


E145-0554 ::EVGA 02G-P3-1559-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti Video Card - 2GB, GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 (x16), Dual DVI, Mini-HDMI, DirectX 11, Dual-Slot, SLI Ready


A79-8120 ::AMD FD8120FRGUBOX FX-8120 Processor - Eight Core, 8MB L3 Cache, 8MB L2 Cache, 3.10GHz (4.00GHz Max Turbo), Socket AM3+, 125W, Fan, Unlocked



A455-3055 ::ASUS Crosshair V Formula AMD 990FX ROG Motherboard - ATX, Socket AM3+, AMD 990FX Chipset, 2133MHz DDR3 (O.C.), SATA 6.0 Gb/s, RAID, 8-CH SupremeFX Audio, Gigabit LAN, USB 3.0, CrossFireX/SLI Ready(5.05 lbs)



C13-2100 ::Corsair CWCH100 Hydro H100 CPU Liquid Cooler - 120mm Fan, LGA775, LGA1155, LGA1156, LGA1366, LGA 2011, AM2, AM3(3.8 lbs)


A79-1003 ::AMD AE34G1609U2 Entertainment Edition Desktop Memory Module - 4GB, PC3-12800, DDR3-1600MHz, 240-pin DIMM, 1.5V,x 4

what do you guys think and this is all from tigerdirect and i have a 650w xfx xxx edition psu and i need a new cd/dvd rom and i have a full tower case







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January 30, 2012 12:35:29 PM

If I were you I would redo your whole build. The FX CPU is not good at all for gaming, the intel i5 2500k will outperform it:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434
The water cooling is also unnecessary, I would save that money and get a better graphics card such as the 560Ti:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can pair the graphics card and CPU with the ASRock Extreme 3 Z68 motherboard, which is great because it has 2 PCIe 3.0 slots which allows for gfx card SLI in the future:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS is a great board company, but it is overpriced and therefore you can find better prices with other companies with similar mobo features.

You can also skip the higher priced AMD RAM and go with this 8GB kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I also recommend the Hyper 212+ for the HSF instead of water cooling, the Hyper 212+ will allow for great overclocking.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...
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January 30, 2012 12:56:20 PM

well i use asus because i have used them in the past and they work well with me i love amd my verry first computer was amd and i just wanted the latest tech intel to me is overpriced and for the liquid cooling its something of i like it i used cooling just like that and i have the money to spend so i may as well just get it and as for the video canr im am verry unsure of what i am going to get what you listed sounds good n all but i am planning on making a extreme gaming pc at some poing so if you could plz give more info as of why amd isnt that good any more and is 8gb enuff memory
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January 30, 2012 1:09:38 PM

If going amd i suggest the phenom II cpus you get quite a bang for your buck and they come in x2 x3 x4 and x6 (i could be wrong on the x3 haven't seen them around only heard others talking about them) The fx chips are known as the bulldozer chips and windows 7 is not really compatible with them so they are not performing as they really should they are supposed to be working on a fix for them and windows 8 is supposed to be more compatible but thats alot of supposed to in them. Hence why even amd fans aren't really reccomending them right now.

(i use an amd athlon 64 x2 4400+ so also a big amd fan)
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January 30, 2012 1:15:18 PM

Here are some amd bare bones kits http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/catego...|c:5294|&Sort=4&Recs=30

I chose the am3 chip set with asus motherboards (as you said you like and trust them) Some times you can get decent builds with a bare bones and some times you don't usually they give you things youdon't like or want in the deals but i like to use them as base builds personally and add to them and replace parts with better parts as my budget allows me to.
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January 30, 2012 3:23:26 PM

i have the x4 now with asus pro usb3 mobo and ati video card i think im gonna go with new prossor and video card and power supply you guys are right no use going to fx usr get hight end 6 core and video cards and be done
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January 30, 2012 3:27:11 PM

kyle_91 said:
i have the x4 now with asus pro usb3 mobo and ati video card i think im gonna go with new prossor and video card and power supply you guys are right no use going to fx usr get hight end 6 core and video cards and be done



That should suit you well for a good while hopefully amds upcoming piledriver chips will give amd fans more options :p 
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January 30, 2012 3:43:52 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
If I were you I would redo your whole build. The FX CPU is not good at all for gaming, the intel i5 2500k will outperform it:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434
The water cooling is also unnecessary, I would save that money and get a better graphics card such as the 560Ti:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can pair the graphics card and CPU with the ASRock Extreme 3 Z68 motherboard, which is great because it has 2 PCIe 3.0 slots which allows for gfx card SLI in the future:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS is a great board company, but it is overpriced and therefore you can find better prices with other companies with similar mobo features.

You can also skip the higher priced AMD RAM and go with this 8GB kit:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I also recommend the Hyper 212+ for the HSF instead of water cooling, the Hyper 212+ will allow for great overclocking.
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...


+1.

If you want this setup for gaming, what r0aringdrag0n said is a powerful setup which will outperfom the FX8120/4GB/550ti by like 50-70% in games.

GPU diff: http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_550_Ti_Direc... <-- techpowerup 1920x1200 summary
CPU diff: http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/F/323907/original/Averag... <--- great article by toms today.
and double ram :p 
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January 30, 2012 6:54:50 PM

Don't go with AMD if you have $800 to spend, you can easily get a i5 2500k and gtx 560Ti with $800 that will far outperform the Phenom line of CPUs, only go with Phenom if you have less than $600 to spend on a computer and want to OC your computer
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January 30, 2012 7:22:14 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
Don't go with AMD if you have $800 to spend, you can easily get a i5 2500k and gtx 560Ti with $800 that will far outperform the Phenom line of CPUs, only go with Phenom if you have less than $600 to spend on a computer and want to OC your computer



You do realize some people have part preferences right? Its just like some people prefer a corvette over a mustang. They were looking to upgrade to a newer version of amd not a whole new system build with a new cpu manufacturer.
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January 30, 2012 7:29:49 PM

i want whats best for me and my games i like great fps and fast boot up and i am now seeing slower speeds with my rig atm im even lagging in world of warcraft and i know i shouldnt be at all
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January 30, 2012 7:53:23 PM

If thats what you want then going intel right now is the best solution. And the i5 2500k is the best cpu for your money they run between 200.00-250.00 depending on where you buy it.
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January 30, 2012 7:56:42 PM

If I were to blow $800 on upgrades for a game rig (these are upgrades right? cause if it is a new build then you are missing quite a few parts):

ASUS/ASRock mobo ~$150, LGA 1155, SLI/xFire capable, same company and most boards of either brand are great, just pick the one that has the features you want for the price range. I love my extreme3gen3 which goes for $110 when on sale.

i5 2500K OC to 4+GHz ~$180 at microcenter, ~$240 elsewhere

8GB of DDR3 1600 in a 2x4GB config $40-50, I like corsair, but really it is all the same these days, so whatever happens to be on sale/free shipping/rebate that week is fine

Hyper 212+ $30 or 212 Evo $35, only real difference is the Evo is a little quieter (granted I'm not satisfied with the noise on mine yet... gotta work that out)

That then leaves $440 for GPUs. I would either suggest a high end nVidia like the GTX 570, or else 2 mid-rage AMD cards in xFire. With 650W on your power supply you should be able to support either option, and it should play just about everything with high settings on most monitors.


You mentioned that you are already on a modern board, and if that is the case I would:
add 4GB of memory to make 8GB ~$20
pick up a Ph2 x6 (while available as it is now discontinued) $150 and OC the hell out of it
you likely already have an aftermarket cooler, but if not then still go with the hyper 212+ $30
That leaves you $600 to spend on a 7970, or to xFire 2 midrange cards to your heart's content. A 650W PSU should run it just fine unless it has a lack of juice on the 6pin connector.

As for performance, run msconfig, go to the startup tab, and disable everything except for windows, antivirus, and hardware related tools/drivers. Then run CCleaner's registry checker, and manually run a defrag to make sure your disc is set up nicely. Reset the computer and it should play nicer. If it still runs slow I would either reformat with a fresh install, or throw an SSD at it and see if that fixes your speed issues.
Obviously you need to make sure you are not over-using your ram, and make sure that your HDD is no more than 75% full for optimal performance.

The x6 with 7970 would game well for a good long time, but moving over to Intel with an i5 would do even better in the long run.
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January 30, 2012 7:59:28 PM

kyle_91 said:
well i use asus because i have used them in the past and they work well with me i love amd my verry first computer was amd and i just wanted the latest tech intel to me is overpriced and for the liquid cooling its something of i like it i used cooling just like that and i have the money to spend so i may as well just get it and as for the video canr im am verry unsure of what i am going to get what you listed sounds good n all but i am planning on making a extreme gaming pc at some poing so if you could plz give more info as of why amd isnt that good any more and is 8gb enuff memory


kyle_91 said:
i want whats best for me and my games i like great fps and fast boot up and i am now seeing slower speeds with my rig atm im even lagging in world of warcraft and i know i shouldnt be at all

WoW is not a demanding game, I would look for other reasons (bad internet, not enough Ram, failing HDD, etc) to explain why you are having issues, doing a core system update is not going to help you if the HDD is bad, or your internet connection in having Ping issues. It would suck to waste $800 on parts that (while nice) would be wasted on WoW, and potentially not solve your problem.
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