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Can i really wait on a gpu? i'm gonna have to.

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January 31, 2012 3:49:04 AM

hey folks, i have decided on my build. i think its gonna be pretty powerful.
i was going for a phenom ii with hd 6870 for 650$ but all you fanboys have changed my mind :) 

here is what i'm getting: (for a really good price i think)

core i5 2500k (i dont plan on overclocking, but i also can't buy a new cpu every 6 months either)

Gigabyte Gigabyte Intel Z68 ATX DDR3 2133 LGA 1155 Motherboard GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 (sli and crossfire x8x8) i wanna go nvidia but i'm finding it hard to not stare at the radeons. (as i said, i'm not too concerned about OC'ing but the 2500K is only 20$ more than the 2500)

corsair vengeance 2x4 = 8gig ddr3 pc12800 @ 1600mhz (not sure what mhz to go for, any differences in them?)

asus dvd/rw

microsoft curved keybard (just a cheapo for now)

western digital 500gb HDD

OCZ ZT Series 650W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Bronze (wanted the corsair 650w but all the reviews on my CASE says a modular psu is needed)

azza solano 1000 csaz full tower (i agonized over the case, i switched back and forth a thousand times, but i think i'll be happy with this)

one thing i found neat was the i5 2500k is 95w where as the phenom ii x4 is 125w. (sometimes old fashioned math doesn't work right. heh)

only thing missing is a GPU. i can play quake 4 and doom 3 and stuff on this for now, and a few weeks from now maybe the 560ti will be about 99$ heh. oh, price in cart right now at amazon: $736.92. thanks for all the input and help guys...

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January 31, 2012 6:13:05 AM

Case doesn't determine if modular is needed or not.
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January 31, 2012 6:34:05 AM

Only thing I would change is your memory, if you decide down the road to overclock your going to need to get a better cooler for your CPU and the taller Vengeance will get in the way. I'd recommend the LP version of the Vengeance line, its usually about the same price.
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January 31, 2012 6:54:46 AM

What bothers me is you said "computer for $650", and now you are looking at parts for $700+ and you don't even have the GPU. What is the budget? Don't stretch yourself to much. There is (or shouldn't be) no shame in buying the best you can afford. To meet your $650 budget if you need to get a 955 and 6870 then do so. It should still play most games really well. Even at 1080.

Azeem, while I mostly agree with what you said, some cases can be small or laid out badly. In these "cases" (he he) it is better to use a modular PSU. I would say save the $$$ and buy a different case but I gave up on giving case advice a long time ago.
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January 31, 2012 8:02:27 AM

i3-2100 is a fantastic CPU for gaming at a more affordable price. The rest of the build can remain more or less the same.

A few cost cutting changes:
i3-2100
4GB RAM instead of 8GB (games don't use more than 2-3GB anyway) Personally I've never seen my 8GB system use more than 3GB RAM even when running PRIME95.

Case....OH MY GOD.... really please do not waste $145 of your budget on the case.....FULL Tower ATX is 100% unnecessary unless your buying an E-ATX motherboard. Try looking at something like HAF 912 or Antec Three Hundred.

8Gb -> 4GB RAM = save $20 ish? (also recommend LOW PROFILE RAM)
i5-2500k -> i3-2100 = save $100 ish
Full -> Mid Tower ATX = save $80 ish

Total saving around $200 which would enable you to buy a GTX 560Ti GPU in your initial build and actually have something that performs great and works with all current games!

Gigabyte GTX 560Ti $210 / $190 (after rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 31, 2012 8:12:37 AM

Antec 302 is the best choice besides the antec 300

get the 8gb ram, its better than the 4gb if you decide someday to do something else then the ram gets more expensive,
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January 31, 2012 8:26:31 AM

Tavo_Nova said:
Antec 302 is the best choice besides the antec 300

get the 8gb ram, its better than the 4gb if you decide someday to do something else then the ram gets more expensive,


1) RAM is coming down in price, not going up.
2) 8GB RAM is not better than 4GB RAM if its never actually being used....
3) "Someday do something else".....? Well with RAM coming down in price, your actually better off waiting to buy more and buy it when you actually NEED it or can see it being used.

Why spend $20 more on something that wont be used? It makes no sense...

$31 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


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January 31, 2012 11:20:35 AM

Until DDR4 comes out and you can't find DDR3 anymore. The question then is how much ram do you need.

4 or 8 seems to be the answer. I would say it depends on what you do. Most of us 4GBs is just fine.
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January 31, 2012 2:43:38 PM

hey thanks everyone for the help.
AdrianPerry, you have been very helpful. i took your advice and this is what i came up with:
Gigabyte 560ti sli ready (gigabyte is good high quality aren't they) 209.99
antec nine hundred gaming case 99.99 (i also like the HAF 922)
corsair vengeance low profile 8gb 49.99 (4gb of the same thing is 32$ so....)
core i3 2100 @ 3.1ghz: 124.99
gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 sli ready: 122.99
ocz 650w modular: 99.99
keyboard: 14.99
asus dvd/rw: 23.48
western digital 500gb HDD: 84.99

total: 831.40 and everything is free super saving shipping (5-7 days i think)
i am pleased with this price it should be a decent gamer for under a grand.

one more question; i got thinking about cables, will my mobo come with the cables i need or do i need to order them too?
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January 31, 2012 3:00:13 PM

The motherboard should come with all the cables you need.

-Wolf sends
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January 31, 2012 3:23:56 PM

The parts come with everything you need. Everything checks out and seem to be in order. You are wise to get 8. as i play bf3 and have 8 gigs or ram and use 4 gigs alone playing the game with battlelog in the back ground and teamspeak.
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January 31, 2012 5:06:54 PM

just want to say this forum is by far the best one i have been to in terms of people's willingness to help and lack of rudeness. most forums get only hey, your stupid if you go ATI! or they get to arguing over brands (intel vs amd, nvidia vs radeon) and forget what the thread is even about. anyways just want to say thanks. hopefully i'll get knowledgeable enough to help out fellow pc'ers.
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February 1, 2012 12:51:56 AM

Trust me, that happens here as well. Just not this thread. For example I'm not happy with OCZ PSUs so feel free to switch to a better one. I'd also add that if the total is $831 and your budget was $1000, you should bump the 2100 up to at least the 2400 if not the 2500K. The 2500K will allow OCing and is only ~$100 more then your current CPU. Your total would still be only $931.
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February 1, 2012 9:14:07 AM

johnclaude said:

Gigabyte 560ti sli ready (gigabyte is good high quality aren't they) 209.99
antec nine hundred gaming case 99.99 (i also like the HAF 922)
corsair vengeance low profile 8gb 49.99 (4gb of the same thing is 32$ so....)
core i3 2100 @ 3.1ghz: 124.99
gigabyte GA-Z68A-D3H-B3 sli ready: 122.99
ocz 650w modular: 99.99
keyboard: 14.99
asus dvd/rw: 23.48
western digital 500gb HDD: 84.99


Build looks good! :) 

As said above though, if you have a $1000 budget, seriously consider swapping the i3-2100 for the i5-2500k - the rest of the build can remain the same.

You might want to consider this PSU: $80 SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze
15% off w/promo code SEASONIC15, ends 2/8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And this motherboard: $122 ASRock Extreme3 Gen3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 2, 2012 1:25:38 AM

i have decided here guys. (i HOPE)
i'm pushing a thousand bucks but i want this setup here:

corsair enthusiast 750w psu: 99.99

corsair 8gb low profile: 49.99

asus cd rw: 24.99

western digital 500gb hdd: 84.99

CM HAF 922 case: 89.00

core i5 2500k: 229.99

gigabyte z68 mobo with x8x8 xfire, sli: 126.33

(ahem) RADEON hd 6950 2gb from sapphire: (ahem again) 279.99

total: 984.76 (as long as it's under a grand, i'll be okay, i don't eat much anyways)

the radeon creates one last difficult decision for me. i can get the 560 ti for $210 from gigabyte @ newegg (newegg is fine for me but everything would arrive at once from amazon but not worth $30 for that) oh, choices choices.

would the 6950 outperform the 560? is it worth the extra? (hwcompare.com shows the gtx winning) just the 2gb got me thinking..
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February 2, 2012 8:41:58 AM

Extra memory I believe has been shown to yield more performance in new games (BF3 especially) I think makes use of the extra oompf! of having 2GB over 1GB.

The performance however is very similar and the 560Ti is a great over-clocker with many people reaching 1GHz core (from the stock 822MHz).

If I was in your position, personally I wouldn't want to pay an extra $70 for a card with only minor performance differences. In some games the 560Ti will perform better and in others the 6950 will perform better.

The rest of the build looks good though :) 
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February 2, 2012 1:24:26 PM

yeah, i had already decided on the 560, i just hadn't realized it... i was on youtube last night and i found a comment thread on "which card is better, nvidia or ati?" man, i was laughin out loud at these idiots, they started talking about their moms and stuff;

the way I see it, a true gamer will not (or can not) answer that question. it's like asking which child you like best or which EYE you want to keep. silly but that's the way of things....
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February 2, 2012 3:10:49 PM

Why do people use youtube videos for basing their purchases on? It's like using newegg reviews to decide what to buy.
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February 3, 2012 1:06:07 AM

i was just watching some gameplay videos with various setups.. no i will not trust youtube over say, here.
but it's good for some laughs, man these guys get's worked up...
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