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January 31, 2012 3:18:21 PM

First off, I'm sorry if this is in the wrong section, I'm totally new to pc gaming and these forums as well. I've got some questions and this seemed like the best place to ask for advice. I'll try to keep this short and to the point, so bare with me if you can....
It's tax time, I'm a tech geek who has spent most of the last few years playing ps3 and hacking android, now I'd like to get into pc gaming. My gf plays wow on a budget laptop(Intel p6100 lol) so she
d like to upgrade too. I'm looking for a desktop and she's looking for a laptop. Our budgets are 1500 each. She's pretty much sold on the m17x, probably because it's pretty lol. I'm looking for something a little more powerful I think? I'd like to play new games at as close to max settings as possible. Like bf3, skyrim, star wars, etc... I've been looking into ibuypower, but I've read mixed reviews... Here's what I've put together for a deaktop

NZXT Alpha Gaming Case Black
Intel Core i7 2600k processor
Liquid CPU Cooling System [SOCKET-1155]
8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module
AMD Radeon HD 6970 - 2GB
ASUS P8Z68-V LX -- Lucid Virtu Technology
1000 Watt - Extreme Gaming Series
1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s
24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) 64-Bit
Tuniq TX-2 High Performance Thermal Compound The best interface between your CPU and the heatsinks [+$10]

Professional wiring for all cables inside the system tower Achieve exceptional airflow in your chassis [+$19]

Basic Pro Wiring

I'm totally new to this pc gaming thing, so if I totally screwed something up lemme know lol. I plan on playing on my 32 inch lcd at 1080p any advice on my setup or the wife's alienware would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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January 31, 2012 3:43:37 PM

for gaming you dont need a 2600k for gaming--a 2500k is as good for gaming but a fair bit cheaper

1000w psu is overkill for that setup--850w from a good maker should be plenty

maybe consider a ssd hard drive
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January 31, 2012 3:44:01 PM

Sound like a good setup to me
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January 31, 2012 4:16:57 PM

Personally I'd spend a bit extra and go with a SSD boot drive..
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January 31, 2012 4:17:32 PM

Thank you for the input, so the 2500k should be able to handle intensive games without problems? If so then ill definitely go with that... The 2500k doesn't have hyperthreading(I think) does that affect performance or not? Again, thank you for any advice.
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January 31, 2012 4:22:27 PM

Congrats on deciding on a new build. First of all, you get MUCH more performance for the same amount of money in a desktop vs laptop (which offers the portability and very low power consumption). There's nothing wrong with ordering your computer, but ordering the parts and building it yourself is worth considering. You'll learn a lot and probably have fun in the process while saving a bit of cash. Soap box over :)  Quick note:

- The HD 6970 only requires a 550w PSU (assuming it's from a solid brand like Corsair, OCZ, or XFX, that should be plenty). Bumping up to 650w or 750w is fine, but anything beyond that for a single card is just overkill.
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January 31, 2012 4:29:47 PM

Jiggaman508 said:
Thank you for the input, so the 2500k should be able to handle intensive games without problems? If so then ill definitely go with that... The 2500k doesn't have hyperthreading(I think) does that affect performance or not? Again, thank you for any advice.



yep it will handle intensive games no problem

hyperthreading doesnt help game performance--thats why you dont need the 2600k
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January 31, 2012 4:36:13 PM

Right now very few games can use more than 4 threads. For this reason the hyper-threading on the Intel® Core™ i7-2600K has minimal value on a gaming system. So in a gaming system the Intel Core i5-2500K can give you the same performance as a Intel Core i7-2600K (with a touch of overclocking) and save you over a $100.

Unless you are planning on running SLI or Xfire you should drop the PSU down to around 650w and make sure you get a good one like Corsair, OCZ, Antec, PC Power and Cooling to name a few.

As far as the CPU cooler there are a number of good ones out there and you dont have to run a water cooler on the 2nd generation Intel® Core™ processor run fairly cool to begin with. So you can get good results from something like the Cooler Master hyper 212+ or the Evo.

Christian Wood
Intel Enthusiast Team
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January 31, 2012 4:45:56 PM

as said you can use a decent air cooler rather than water

just make sure your memory modules will fit under it ok--get low profile ones if not sure

and your ram should be 1.5v 1600mhz not the 1.65v ones
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January 31, 2012 4:47:32 PM

Bad motherboard. At least get a p8z68-v or v pro
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January 31, 2012 4:50:27 PM

Get 2500K the money you save put into graphic card 7950($450). Anyway what monitor do have? for 1080 gaming even 6950 is great
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January 31, 2012 4:50:41 PM

well 1st off u should DEFINITELY build the computer urself ull save hundreds second when gaming ur pc only uses 4 cores of ur processor so an i5 2500k would be good enough for gaming but if u dont care about saving sum money get an i7 and u should probly get a 6950 instead of a 6970 because a 6970 is 80 dollars more than a 6950 and only gets about 5 more fps if ur still getting an i7 then there r definitly better motherboards for example a dx79si may be expensive but its a GREAT board and also u should get a cm storm trooper series case instead of a nzxt you only need 1000 watts if ur gonna double or triple crossfire id get 2tb instead of 1 and may i suggest the corsair h100 liquid cooling system and ur op drive is good
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January 31, 2012 4:52:00 PM

xtremegamer2da-max said:
well 1st off u should DEFINITELY build the computer urself ull save hundreds second when gaming ur pc only uses 4 cores of ur processor so an i5 2500k would be good enough for gaming but if u dont care about saving sum money get an i7 and u should probly get a 6950 instead of a 6970 because a 6970 is 80 dollars more than a 6950 and only gets about 5 more fps if ur still getting an i7 then there r definitly better motherboards for example a dx79si may be expensive but its a GREAT board and also u should get a cm storm trooper series case instead of a nzxt you only need 1000 watts if ur gonna double or triple crossfire id get 2tb instead of 1 and may i suggest the corsair h100 liquid cooling system and ur op drive is good

Why are you suggesting him to get an x79 board? :heink: 
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January 31, 2012 4:57:48 PM

Don't let anybody talk you out of a high wattage power supply. It's the best/cheapest insurance policy anybody can put in a rig. Nobody around here seems to get that. AMD video drivers are buggy. always have been, probably always will be. If you're not accustomed to using a keyboard and mouse you can set up a Windows box to use an Xbox 360 controller. Go here http://www.brighthub.com/video-games/pc/articles/11612.... to find out how.
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January 31, 2012 5:36:13 PM

OK so it seems like the general consensus here is that I don't need an i7, so I think I'll go with the i5. I also didn't know that the difference between the 6950 and 6970 was minimal so now I'm thinking maybe I'll go with the 6950. I was planning on playing on my 32 inch lcd tv for the most part, it works well for my ps3, so I was thinking it would work well for this too. I don't know much about mobos at all, so I could definitely use some help there. Also, what tools and what skill level would it require to build my own, I might do that as well if it's cost effective. Last thing, where should I look for parts if I were to build my own. Thanks in advance
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January 31, 2012 5:39:51 PM

Rockdpm said:
Well i can give you some advice for you Girl Friend. if she want a high performance Laptop....Republic of Gamers will win her. trust me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


That's the one I wanted to buy for her, I thought it looked great. Her response, it's too big and bulky lol. Unfortunately I think she's putting aesthetics before performance.
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January 31, 2012 5:46:37 PM

amuffin said:
Bad motherboard. At least get a p8z68-v or v pro


What's the main differences between this and the Pro???
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January 31, 2012 5:48:04 PM

heres a comparison between 6950 and 6970

http://www.hwcompare.com/6327/radeon-hd-6950-vs-radeon-...

heres a decent motherboard

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z6...

tools needed--a screwdriver

skill level--not too high if you are a practical person--its only if you put it all together and it doesnt work then it gets more complicated--but plenty help here if that happens

presuming you are in the usa then newegg seems to be the most popular website
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January 31, 2012 8:39:25 PM

This is another setup I came up with after some input. What do you guys think?? I'm not to sure about the mobo. Again, any and all advice is appreciated.

CAS:Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case

CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)

CPU:Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)

CS_FAN:Maximum 120MM Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+9]

FA_HDD:None

FAN:Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])

FLASHMEDIA:INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)

HDD:60GB Corsair Force Series SATA III 6.0Gb/s SSD -550MB/s Read & 510MB/s Write [+12] (Single Drive)

HDD2:500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD [+94] (Single Hard Drive)

IEEE_CARD:None

IUSB:Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

KEYBOARD:Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard

MB_SRT:None

MEMORY:8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance [+23]

MOTHERBOARD:* [CrossFireX] GigaByte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Intel Smart Response Tech. & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, mSATA Connector onboard, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)

MOUSE:XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

NCSW:None

NETWORK:o nboard Gigabit LAN Network

OS:Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional [+31] (64-bit Edition)

OVERCLOCK:No Overclocking

POWERSUPPLY:* 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+83]

RUSH:NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS

SERVICE:STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

SPEAKERS:None

TEMP:None

TUNING:None

TVRC:None

USB:None

USBFLASH:None

USBHD:None

USBX:None

VIDEO:AMD Radeon HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card [+245] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)

VIDEO2:None

VIDEO3:None

WNC:p CI Wireless 802.11n 150Mbps Network Interface Card [+19]

_PRICE:( +1384)
SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
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January 31, 2012 10:10:02 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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February 1, 2012 12:41:47 AM

After reading some of the guidelines for the forum, I've decided to update the thread accordingly.

Approximate purchase date: within 2 weeks
Budget:$1500 shipped max
System usage from most to least important:gaming, Internet browsing
Parts not required:monitor, speakers
Preferred website: open to suggestions, looking at cyberpower
Country:US
Preferred parts:Intel 2500K, radeon 6970
OC:maybe
SLI or crossfire:maybe
Monitor res: 1920x1080

Really looking to get the best bang for my buck here, would love any advice at all. Thanks in advance
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February 11, 2012 12:08:41 AM

Best answer selected by Jiggaman508.
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February 25, 2012 8:49:18 PM

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