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Need help building system for Diablo 3

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January 31, 2012 10:24:19 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: everything except graphics card to be purchased as soon as possible. Graphics card to be purchased when Diablo 3 comes out, which is probably this summer or fall

Budget Range: budget is extremely tight, so needs to be as cheap as possible after rebate. I am not looking for a computer with best value below a budget range. I just want the cheapest build out of all builds that can play D3 on medium settings.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: playing diablo 3 (don't care about any other games, though if I had the option, being able to play gamecube/ps2 emulator games would be nice), watching anime, surfing internet

Parts Not Required: mouse, monitor, os (will be using Windows 7 32-bit), keyboard

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: don't care, preferably somewhat reputable

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: don't care as long as it's not too shady

Overclocking, SLI, Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: The only requirement of this system is it can play Diablo 3 at medium settings, which I don't know what it would be, but here are the system requirements for the game:

MINIMUM SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
OS: Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Latest Service Packs) with DirectX® 9.0c
Processor: Intel Pentium® D 2.8 GHz or AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 4400+
Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800 GT or ATI Radeon™ X1950 Pro or better
HD Space: 12 GB available HD space | Memory: 1 GB RAM (1.5 GB required for Windows Vista®
Windows® 7 users, 2 GB for Mac® users) | Drive: DVD-ROM drive | Internet: Broadband Internet
connection | Display: 1024x768 minimum display resolution

RECOMMENDED SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
OS: Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Latest Service Packs) | Processor: Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz or AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 5600+ 2.8 GHz | Memory: 2 GB RAM | Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 260 or ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 or better

I do not want to pay more to have better performance than what's needed to play D3 at medium settings. After this requirement is taken care of, longevity is the most important factor, and then price (including elecricity costs from using it). I don't plan to upgrade this system in the future unless a part is broken and I have to. I also don't care about how this system looks.

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CPU: Intel Celeron G530 Sandy Bridge 2.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80623G530 - $45

CPU Fan: fan that comes w/ CPU

Motherboard: MSI H61M-P21 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - $60

Video: To give you an idea of what kind of card I am okay with, if I purchased the card today it would be ASUS EAH6670/DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 6670 GDDR5 1 GB Video Card - $80 after rebate.

RAM: G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS - $23
2 x 2GB, 240-pin DDR3 1333 CAS 9 1.5V

Harddrive: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 500GB SATA2 Hard Drive 7200RPM 16MB Cache 3.5IN OEM - $60 by 2/1/12
3 year limited warranty

Case: Coolermaster Elite 370 Black Mid Tower ATX Case 3X5.25 1X3.5 5X3.5INT No PS - $32
Top: 120 mm fan x 2 (optional)
Front: 12/140 mm fan x 1 (optional)
Rear: 120 mm fan x 1
Side: 120/140 mm fan x 2 (optional)
Bottom: 80/90/120 mm fan x 1 (optional)

Front Case fan (one of the listed three, haven't decided yet):
Arctic Cooling 120MM 400-1500RPM 56.3CFM 10-23DBA Fluid Dynamic Bearing - $5

Scythe Slip Stream Kaze Jyuni 120MM Fan 800RPM 40.1CFM 10.7DBA Sleeve Bearing - $6

Coolermaster R4-C2R-20AC-GP 120MM Long Life Sleeve Bearing No LED 2000RPM Black Cooling Fan - $6

Power: OCZ ZS Series 550W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom - $45 after rebate - $20 gift card by 2/5 = $25
456W from 12V, 550W total, PFC, not modular, 135mm double ball-bearing fan, 3 yr warranty

Optical: Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM - $16 by 2/1/12
no blu-ray

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a c 192 U Graphics card
January 31, 2012 11:55:09 PM

I think switching from AMD to Intel is a good decision, but I'm not sure it will be safe to go as low as a Celeron. I think a Pentium is a safer choice. Lowering graphic settings tend to shift any bottleneck onto the CPU.
I think that's a good choice on the GPU. You may even get some High settings out of it, but the little money saved on a cheaper GPU (e.g. HD6570) may drop too much performance for your resolution.
The PSU may be more than you need (300W would be plenty), but if you can get it for that price, go for it; you'd be buying a lot of longevity, and not spending much more than the cost of a good (e.g. Seasonic 80+ bronze) 300W PSU. The only down side is that you'll be running it under 20% load much of the time, where efficiency really drops off.
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February 1, 2012 2:31:52 AM

The reason I have the Celeron is because the Passmark scores of the recommended CPU for D3 were
Intel Core2 Duo E8135 @ 2.40GHz (not sure which Core2 Duo model it's talking about, but i just picked the one with highest score) - 1691 (rank 488)
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 5600+ - 1536 (rank 541)

and the score for Celeron G530 was higher:
Intel Celeron G530 @ 2.40GHz - 2287 (rank 364)

I figured this would be good enough to let me play D3 on medium settings.

I found Intel Pentium G620 Sandy Bridge 2.60GHz Socket 1155 Dual Core 32nm Processor Model: BX80623G620 for $60. How much of a difference will I see for the extra $15?

This is the Passmark score:
Intel Pentium G620 @ 2.60GHz - 2465 (rank 336)

Here's a review I found on the Celeron G530:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/celeron-g5...
I had a hard time understanding it though :( 
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a c 192 U Graphics card
February 1, 2012 9:12:20 AM

Your OP says you don't want to upgrade anything unless it breaks, but your last post says you're thinking of upgrading the CPU in two years. Still, for D3, either the CPU will meet your needs or it won't. Your reasoning looks good, comparing the Passmark scores, except they're synthetics that I'm not sure always translate to real world performance. I'm also not sure how well you can correlate scores across architectures. In any case, since the price differences aren't huge, but replacement costs are relatively much higher, I think it would be better to have the performance and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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February 1, 2012 5:36:32 PM

ah right, ignore my last post about upgrading. I've taken it out. I'll look more into replacing the Celeron with a Pentium. When you say Pentium as a safer choice, is the G620 good enough in your opinion?

I looked at motherboards and have decided on this one:
MSI H61M-P21 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
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February 1, 2012 6:03:06 PM

Been looking at RAM and apparently I need to get 1.5V or lower for sandybridge?

I have these 3 RAMs to choose from:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH - $32, CAS 7, G-skill
G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS - $23, CAS 9, G-skill
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model TW3X4G1333C9A G - $19, CAS 9, not G-skill

How much of an impact will I see from getting a RAM with CAS 7 instead of CAS 9? Is Corsair a good brand for memory?
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February 1, 2012 7:01:23 PM

Looked at cases and will be going with this coolermaster one:

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55447&vpn=RC%2D370%2DK...

There's no front fan, so I'll buy one of these:

Arctic Cooling 120MM 400-1500RPM 56.3CFM 10-23DBA
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=24331&vpn=ACF12PWM&man...

Scythe Slip Stream Kaze Jyuni 120MM Fan 800RPM 40.1CFM 10.7DBA
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=26746&vpn=SY1225SL12L&...

Coolermaster R4-C2R-20AC-GP 120MM Long Life Sleeve Bearing No LED 2000RPM Black Cooling Fan
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=61078&vpn=R4%2DC2R%2D2...

not sure which yet.
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a c 192 U Graphics card
February 1, 2012 9:21:24 PM

I always recommend against any product from Coolermaster. As competent technical reviews at HardwareSecrets have shown, some of their PSUs have liar-labels on them, and/or claim to have protection circuits that are actually missing. That is dishonest, and a dishonest company does not deserve anyone's business, for any of its products.
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Anyway, my own current research into a low power CPU for gaming led me back to the recent CPU article, where even some lowly G-series Pentiums proved capable of playing even the most demanding titles. As unbelievable as it seems, the G620 appears as though it would easily meet your needs.
I have always had good results from G.Skill RAM. I don't think it will make a big difference in any case, but CAS7 is "more better" than CAS9 than DDR3-1600 is better than DDR3-1333; I'd get the CAS7.
Your entire system will be sufficiently low in power that it won't produce enough heat to need the front fan.
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February 3, 2012 4:55:01 PM

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a c 271 U Graphics card
February 3, 2012 5:00:38 PM

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