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560 Ti 448?! I just bought a 560 Ti!

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December 2, 2011 1:48:27 PM

Hey everyone, first posting here.

I had just recently (and by recent I mean 2 days ago) received my EVGA 560 Ti SC card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and then saw that they released this card the 560 Ti 448 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I got the 560 Ti at $239 with $20 MIR, so we're looking at $219 and a free downloadable copy of Batman Arkham City.

Would it be worth trying to exchange it for either, for $289 and $299, respectively, and no free game?

I play SC2, BFBC2, BF3, and would play Batman: AC.

If it helps I'd like to run 2 monitors
P55 SLI MB
8GB Ram
Corsair 650w PSU
i7-870 Lynnfield

More about : 560 448 bought 560

a b U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 2:19:40 PM

Eh, not really. $219 plus a free game is a great deal for a GTX 560 Ti. If you are really upset about it, call eVGA and ask if you can "step-up" to the GTX 560 Ti 448 and keep the game.
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a c 171 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 2:35:19 PM

I would vote no as well. Already have a good card which performs close(ish) to the GTX570. More so the closer to 1GHz core you get. Considering game and $80ish savings I would be a happy guy. (if you were buying at the current price of $238 and no game I'd rethink that...)
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 2:45:25 PM

Your not missing out on much.As everyone else has said the GTX560ti is still a very solid card.
From the benchmarks I've seen the GTX560ti can still O.C. much higher than the 448 core edition and in some case's rivals the 448 core edition.I really don't see what all the hype was about for this card.I was thinking this card would be something new(technology wise) but all it is is a slimmed down version of the GTX570.Not that impressed.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 2:50:18 PM

Yep, should have called it a 565 . . . ( i know it's not bad like the 465 was, but still )
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:07:30 PM

Actually that makes a a lot of sense because the GTX560ti is just a GTX570 with disabled cores.That's pretty much the same thing that was done for the GTX465.It was a GTX470 with disabled cores.I think the only difference is that with this one they better tuned the power consumption so the GTX570 power consumption didn't still linger.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:18:40 PM

I heared they made the 465 from unstable, failing 470's. The 470 couldn't reach the 470 specs without crashing so they powered it down by cutting cuda cores and thought it would be stable then. Sadly i fell for it . . . Never had a more frustrating card. :fou:  Should sue Nvidea for shortening my life with a couple of years.
Still in love with Nvidea though . . . :love:  HA !
I think the 570 is more stable anyway than the 470 was so the 560 448 will not be as bad as that damned 465.
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December 2, 2011 4:24:11 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
I heared they made the 465 from unstable, failing 470's. The 470 couldn't reach the 470 specs without crashing so they powered it down by cutting cuda cores and thought it would be stable then. Sadly i fell for it . . . Never had a more frustrating card. :fou:  Should sue Nvidea for shortening my life with a couple of years.
Still in love with Nvidea though . . . :love:  HA !
I think the 570 is more stable anyway than the 470 was so the 560 448 will not be as bad as that damned 465.


Was your 'i' changed with 'e' in your keyboard?

OP: Keep your current 560ti. I think it is better for you to get something better like 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168....
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December 2, 2011 4:25:52 PM

Sypher2109 said:
Hey everyone, first posting here.

I had just recently (and by recent I mean 2 days ago) received my EVGA 560 Ti SC card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and then saw that they released this card the 560 Ti 448 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I got the 560 Ti at $239 with $20 MIR, so we're looking at $219 and a free downloadable copy of Batman Arkham City.

Would it be worth trying to exchange it for either, for $289 and $299, respectively, and no free game?

I play SC2, BFBC2, BF3, and would play Batman: AC.

If it helps I'd like to run 2 monitors
P55 SLI MB
8GB Ram
Corsair 650w PSU
i7-870 Lynnfield


you got a good choice picking those EVGA 560 Ti SC. no need to exchange it.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:33:24 PM

Was your 'i' changed with 'e' in your keyboard?

Huh ?
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a c 153 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:35:00 PM

^ I think its because you kept says Nividea instead of Nvidia.

I'm not harping you on you for it, just guessing why he said it.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:37:32 PM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Was your 'i' changed with 'e' in your keyboard?

Huh ?


No? Then can you spell Nvidia?
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 4:51:57 PM

Wiiiieeee, smoking to much i'm afraid :pt1cable: 
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December 2, 2011 6:21:58 PM

Wow, this community is great! Thanks for all the feedback, I love you guys! Those were some seriously thoughout responses. I really appreciate it.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 6:31:34 PM

Wow, that's a great response ! Just stated in another thread that there are often impolite op's who don't even say thanks and now this. Makes the day mate !
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December 2, 2011 7:42:00 PM

Anywyas the one you bought has a lifetime warranty! :D 
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December 2, 2011 7:51:06 PM

I gotta be the only person that isnt huge on the lifetime warranty. My -AR GTX 280 had one, but when it finally kicked out a couple weeks back...i was like *shrug* new video card time. It was old enough to where the idea of sending it and getting a refurbished back was just like..meh... Most cards have at least a 2-3 year warranty on them. Anything longer than that just seems unnecessary unless you're going though a tough time at the moment the card failed 3+ years down the road.

But yes, you got a good card. Id say if you already owned batman than itd be time to reconsider, but if you dont, its a good deal.
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a c 104 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 7:53:41 PM

It's a big selling plus if you sell your old card second hand, or if ( in my case ) the old card moves to a son, daughter or wife's pc.
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a c 226 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 7:55:13 PM

purple stank said:
Actually that makes a a lot of sense because the GTX560ti is just a GTX570 with disabled cores.That's pretty much the same thing that was done for the GTX465.It was a GTX470 with disabled cores.I think the only difference is that with this one they better tuned the power consumption so the GTX570 power consumption didn't still linger.


No, the 570 and 560 are entire different silicon. The 560 is based upon GF114 graphics processor .... the 570 is based upon the GF110. The 570 can use tri-SLI, the 560 can not. The memory interface on the 560 is 256 bit, the 570 is 320 bit.

The 570-448, not the 560 Ti, is a 570 w/ disabled or "better said" non functioning cores. The 570 has 480 ....the 560-448 as the name implies has 448. The 570 has 60 texture units, 560-448 has 56. The 570 has 48 full color ROP's, the 560-448 has 40.

The 560 is clocked much faster (822 "reference" .... 1000+ on OC's) than the 570 (732 reference ..... 930 ish typical OC).

Shader and memory clocks are 1644 and 1002 reference on the 560 Ti, 1464 / 950 on the 570 and 560-448.
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December 2, 2011 7:56:08 PM

Yea i suppose that does make sense. Ive found out the hole that holds the fan for the GTX 280 holds a soda can quite well. Not many can claim they have a 550 dollar coaster.
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December 2, 2011 7:56:51 PM

your doing it totally right partner. I've been harping on other threads about getting the old 384 core instead. With the lower power requirements I bet when 22nm processors come out, you could run one of those, and sli the 384 core without having to replace your 650 psu.

Friggin batman sucks regardless, but you got a card that performs some 2-3 frames slower than the 448 in battlefield 3 for $80 cheaper, less heat, noise, power and more overclock ability. I think thats a good deal...oh and your not instantly forced to buy SLI with the 384 core, out of fear that the limited edition supply runs out.

oh, the 384 core is also smaller. Perhaps not in all brands. But can be a plus for a few builders.
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December 2, 2011 7:58:49 PM

Sunfighterlc said:
I gotta be the only person that isnt huge on the lifetime warranty.


Lifetime warranty only states that they will replace the card ..... doesn't say that they replacement card will work. Been there, done that with EVGA. Went thru 6 RMA's, 30 - 40 support calls over 20 months before they realized I was going to be stubborn enough to outlast them.
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December 2, 2011 8:02:30 PM

Sunfighterlc said:
Yea i suppose that does make sense. Ive found out the hole that holds the fan for the GTX 280 holds a soda can quite well. Not many can claim they have a 550 dollar coaster.



Well, there you go. :lol: 

@ JackNaylorPE ; go speak in a forest ! No, good info, forgot about the difference in processor. Shame on me. I was right with the 465 being a crippled 470, was i ?
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December 2, 2011 8:10:28 PM

I think its always just kind of understood electronics have a chance of DOA, in fact the standards seem to be dropping from like 4 yrs back. RMA is standard practice these days lol. Build a PC and one of ur 6-8 parts is going to be fried on arrival. I am exaggerating but you get the point.

jack, I love that you spewed out a spec sheet of the 560 ti vs 570 after the guy tried to give a simplified explanation of the specs...I mean, if the buyer really cant look up the specs on a card before he buys it, he really should not be building.

I don't know what your saying about the warranty stuff other than your proud to be stubborn and you don't like mainstream companies despite overwhelming success stories. I personally have no brand allegiance, and hate large corps., but EVGA is friggin great. They are even selling this 448 core lower than all competition knowing they could easily sell it for more than the rest. Sorry for the rage, but I just couldn't understand why u posted.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 9:17:36 PM

Are we talking about the same GTX560ti 448 core edition?

Tom's even did an article the other day about it...

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If this card's specs sound familiar, that's probably because they match Nvidia's now-defunct GeForce GTX 470. You might also notice that the GeForce GTX 560 Ti 448 Core is essentially a GeForce GTX 570 with one SM disabled. And speaking of the GeForce GTX 570, the new card has the same 732 core, 1464 MHz shader, and 950 MHz GDDR5 memory frequencies.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...


I'm a little lost at what your trying to say.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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December 2, 2011 9:22:26 PM

*shrug* i got a FTW 448 running in my computer now. I gotta admit, its pretty fantastic for 295 dollars.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 9:25:23 PM

I woulda spent the extra $30 for a GTX570.
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December 2, 2011 9:29:23 PM

Why? when a 448 OCed to 757mhz is already at reference 570 speeds. i dont need much more than that. The 797 mhz the FTW came with is just overkill for me already.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 10:12:09 PM

I was hearing that the GTX560ti 448core don't get as good O.C. results as the GTX560ti.
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December 2, 2011 10:27:21 PM

*shrug* They are different chips so it wouldn't be surprising. But I think OC ability is pure luck then anything. Just for giggles ive screwed around a bit with my FTW (probably the worst version, cooling and OC wise IMHO). Im at 865Mhz without any voltage changes. Thats 133 above reference. Or equivalent of a 955Mhz OC on a 560ti pre-voltage changes. I think i might of got a good card. Sucks its not on the MSI cooler..or at least the EVGA DS.

I mean ive already seen an MSI 448 over 1Ghz.

Source: http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/msi_gtx...
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 10:40:05 PM

O yah that's right.Forgot the benchmarks I looked at didn't change the voltage.
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a c 214 U Graphics card
December 2, 2011 11:28:12 PM

1.5 volts
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