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May 17, 2012 11:44:56 PM

It will be for a pentium dual core G530 socket LGA 1155. Im wondering which is better but im thinking that since im getting a
dual core the die will be smaller and more centerd and this will run maybe 24/7 so im not sure which is better but the
212 EVO is $35 and the 212+ is $30 with a $10 mail in rebate so im not sure the 212+ will be a better deal.

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May 17, 2012 11:58:47 PM

The Evo is SLIGHTLY better (1-3C cooler, usually), but since you're not gonna OC, go with the 212+. It's MORE than enough for a G530.
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May 18, 2012 12:09:51 AM

It would be better to use the stock cooler that is provided is more than enough!
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May 18, 2012 12:11:26 AM

amuffin said:
It would be better to use the stock cooler that is provided is more than enough!


Or THAT. LOL You shouldn't ever NEED more than the stock cooler for a G530.
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May 18, 2012 12:19:55 AM

No.

Anything is better than the stock cooler.

A 212+ and a 212 Evo have no noticeable differences until you look at the bottom. The 212+ has heatpipes on the bottom with gaps. The Evo does not and have a continuous copper base. This facilitates better heat transfer compared to the spread out heatpipes in the 212+ but it is negligible (1-3C as stated). Since the 212+ has a $10 MIR this month; i don't see why you shouldn't get it.

Quiter and cooler and powerful enough to last you if you want to upgrade to another CPU in the future.
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May 18, 2012 12:21:12 AM

melikepie said:
So that means that it's a dumb idea?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Will This Work For A More Silent Operation?


I wouldn't say it's dumb, but I would guess that it's no better or quieter than the stock cooler.

That statement is for the HSF you linked, BTW. The 212+ is obviously better and quieter than the stock cooler.
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May 18, 2012 12:26:18 AM

DJDeCiBeL said:
I wouldn't say it's dumb, but I would guess that it's no better or quieter than the stock cooler.

ok, well here are what some people said about this cooler.

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Definitely better than the stock Intel fan. Blades turn smoothly and effortlessly. No so the stock fan.


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Cooler is better than the stock Intel. Quiet. Easy to install. Nice added touch with the cable sleeve, I wish Intel would do that. Super fast shipping by Newegg as always.


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Similar in style to original Intel cooler but taller heat sink and slightly larger fan with shroud included. Lower temperatures then the stock cooler. Pre-applied thermal grease is convenient and works fine.
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May 18, 2012 12:30:32 AM

OK, quieter, maybe just slightly (thinking that may be a placebo thing going on there), but I REALLY don't think it would cool much better than the stock cooler. It's not a copper heat pipe type (looks just like the stock cooler actually), so I really don't see how it could cool that much better.
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May 18, 2012 1:07:13 AM

Thing is you can't overclock, so there is NO need to get an aftermarket!
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May 18, 2012 1:40:18 AM

Why not get an aftermarket? It's much more efficient compared to the stock (crappy) intel cooler, much quieter, and dissipates heat much better. You get idle temps of 40-50C with the stock cooler and idle temps of 30-40c with aftermarkets that tops off at upper 50's compared to high 60s ' lower 70s for the stock cooler.

I would say that would warrant an aftermarket. Less noise thanks to a bigger 120mm fan which dissipates more heat than the smaller but faster moving (louder) fans on the stock / small coolers.
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May 18, 2012 1:46:34 AM

But don't you see, there is NO point of getting one!
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May 18, 2012 1:55:14 AM

amuffin said:
But don't you see, there is NO point of getting one!

I Want My Temps Below 30c At All Times, Will The Stock Cooler Do That?
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May 18, 2012 1:58:51 AM

melikepie said:
I Want My Temps Below 30c At All Times, Will The Stock Cooler Do That?


:lol:  You'll only have temps under 30 AT IDLE anyway (POSSIBLY). Hell, I don't even have temps UNDER 30 at idle with my 212 Evo, unless I turn the fan to 100%. Yes, I have a 2500K, but still.

It's almost impossible to be too much under 30 with air cooling.
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May 18, 2012 1:59:03 AM

There are many factors, btw 30C is impossible regardless of cooler.
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May 18, 2012 2:01:05 AM

amuffin said:
There are many factors, btw 30C is impossible regardless of cooler.

my cpu ne gets under 20c idle sometimes at stock clock
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May 18, 2012 2:02:41 AM

melikepie said:
my cpu ne gets under 20c idle sometimes at stock clock


Where do you live? Antarctica? There's NO way it could be UNDER 20 on air in a normal enviroment. NONE.
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May 18, 2012 2:04:14 AM

Post a screenshot to prove it...
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a c 283 à CPUs
May 18, 2012 2:08:21 AM

This is idle for me with my 212 Evo with the side of my case off and cool air from an A/C vent nearby...

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May 18, 2012 2:09:41 AM

20c is theoretically possible if you live in a cold place (up north) like alaska / top of canada/ Scandinavian countries.

A good aftermarket cooler will keep your CPU in the low 30 c's given your ambient temperatures isnt like 100 degrees F (39 C?). No Stock intel CPU cooler will do that.

As a rule of thumb. Air coolers will always be above ambient temperatures. How far above ambient temperatures depends on how efficient the design is and how powerful the fans are.
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May 18, 2012 2:18:56 AM

IDLE? Stock cooler will do fine, but on load? Impossible!
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May 18, 2012 2:19:41 AM

lilotimz said:
20c is theoretically possible if you live in a cold place (up north) like alaska / top of canada/ Scandinavian countries.

A good aftermarket cooler will keep your CPU in the low 30 c's given your ambient temperatures isnt like 100 degrees F (39 C?). No Stock intel CPU cooler will do that.

As a rule of thumb. Air coolers will always be above ambient temperatures. How far above ambient temperatures depends on how efficient the design is and how powerful the fans are.

well... it's warm where im at right now and i get about 25c on a overclocked system about idle!!!!
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May 18, 2012 2:20:04 AM

amuffin said:
IDLE? Stock cooler will do fine, but on load? Impossible!

no more then 40c
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May 18, 2012 2:24:09 AM

melikepie said:
no more then 40c


If you're telling the truth and not just trolling, you may have one of the coolest running CPU's ever made...
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May 18, 2012 2:26:26 AM

DJDeCiBeL said:
If you're telling the truth and not just trolling, you may have one of the coolest running CPU's ever made...

Really? Im not sure what you mean. I have 8120 so is my temp suppost to be this low?
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May 18, 2012 2:29:47 AM

melikepie said:
Really? Im not sure what you mean. I have 8120 so is my temp suppost to be this low?


Under 40 on load is INSANELY low, yes.
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May 18, 2012 2:33:09 AM

Just use the stock cooler. The processor can withstand temps of up to 90C.
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May 18, 2012 2:37:46 AM

DJDeCiBeL said:
Under 40 on load is INSANELY low, yes.

on stock clock i think i got it before below 40c on load
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May 18, 2012 2:38:14 AM

amuffin said:
Just use the stock cooler. The processor can withstand temps of up to 90C.

but wont it last longer with a better cooler?
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May 18, 2012 2:41:18 AM

melikepie said:
but wont it last longer with a better cooler?


TCase is 69.1C for the G530. Just stay under that and it'll last pretty much forever.

In reality, you can go a good bit higher than that without doing harm.
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May 18, 2012 2:47:51 AM

DJDeCiBeL said:
TCase is 69.1C for the G530. Just stay under that and it'll last pretty much forever.

In reality, you can go a good bit higher than that without doing harm.

Well for 24/7?
24/7 For 5 years without turning it off is 42,720 hours, so i think thats good. It would be clean and it will have
dust filters for the intake fan and would be turned off every once in a while. I think the 212+ with the rebate might be worth it
do to air flow.
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May 18, 2012 3:04:01 AM

melikepie said:
Well for 24/7?
24/7 For 5 years without turning it off is 42,720 hours, so i think thats good. It would be clean and it will have
dust filters for the intake fan and would be turned off every once in a while. I think the 212+ with the rebate might be worth it
do to air flow.


Yeah, even 24/7 365, if you stay at or below 69C, you'll be good. Remember, max temps are very different for Intel CPU's than they are for AMD CPU's.

Tjmax (max core temp) is over 90C...
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May 18, 2012 3:23:34 AM

DJDeCiBeL said:
Yeah, even 24/7 365, if you stay at or below 69C, you'll be good. Remember, max temps are very different for Intel CPU's than they are for AMD CPU's.

Tjmax (max core temp) is over 90C...

Well ok!
Well either a small aftermarket cooler or the 212+ with the rebate beacause of the direct air flow it offers.
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May 18, 2012 3:49:34 AM

Max temp is 100*C before they automatically shut down. Intel recommends you keep under 70*C under load and the intel stock cooler will do that.

212+ or 212 evo are both good and powerful coolers that will reduce your temperatures significantly. Low temperatures and quieter fans are always a plus in my book!

Good luck mate! Ask more questions if you need additional assistance!
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May 18, 2012 3:54:27 AM

lilotimz said:
Max temp is 100*C before they automatically shut down. Intel recommends you keep under 70*C under load and the intel stock cooler will do that.

212+ or 212 evo are both good and powerful coolers that will reduce your temperatures significantly. Low temperatures and quieter fans are always a plus in my book!

Good luck mate! Ask more questions if you need additional assistance!

Well i might get the plus!
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May 18, 2012 8:12:16 AM

amuffin said:
But don't you see, there is NO point of getting one!


QUIETER.
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May 18, 2012 3:48:36 PM

The processor won't load enough even when stress tested in order to make the fan ramp up!
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