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February 3, 2012 7:52:20 AM

So I have been playing around with building a new gaming pc for a little bit and finally have most of the components figured out.
I am not going to be buying all at once to alleviate the strain on the wallet, but I would like to know what you guys think about these components together so I can start looking for deals.
I also have a couple specific questions for some components.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(corsair 750W)

CPU: i5 2500K

MOBO: asrock z68 extreme 3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: ripjaw 8gb http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: gtx 570 superclocked http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OK so....
1. will that case fit the gtx 570..that thing is huge
2. psu good for sli in future?
3. Do i need additional fans
aslo...i will have a tri monitor set up...one for gaming , but 3 when I am surfing the web writing papers etc. I was wondering how does this work with the built in z68 gpu?
Do i need additional cooling, I do plan on overclocking in the near future.
and finally I will be buying the hard drives lastly, any recommendations?

thank you guys so much best place on the web for advice!

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a b B Homebuilt system
February 3, 2012 8:44:14 AM

That 570 will fit easy in the case because the HDD cage from the midle of the case can be removed.
For 570SLI and overclocking the cpu you need an 850W PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
For cpu cooling : COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
If you want tri monitor setup buy 6970 video card. 570 can handle just 2 monitor setup , for 2+ monitor you need two 570.
If you buy 6970 for 3 monitor setup you will need this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I have the same case like you ill recomend you to buy this fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and mount him on the front of the case and the 120mm from front put him on top , i have two of them one in front and one on top.
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
February 3, 2012 4:43:39 PM

1. I have that same case and I use a Radeon 5800 (about the same size as the 570) and it's been able to fit in there perfectly fine.

2. Yes - I have that same PSU in both of my systems and one system runs SLI perfectly fine.

3. I agree with the recommendation of the aforementioned Radeon 6970 - most NVIDIA-based cards will only allow for a 2 x DVI connection where the Eyefinity will allow for a 1 x DP or 1 x HDMI and 2 x DVI off the same card. If you get something like the Sapphire Flex series you'll be able to chain all monitors in their native HDMI output.

4. I have the HAF 912 and it's a great case and it's extremely well ventilated to begin with - you may not need the extra fans to start with but CM provides all the mounts in case you do. I have one 200mm fan top-mounted and one 120mm side-mounted fan and the air flows great.

5. That all depends what you want to spend. HD prices are ridiculous right now because of the shortages but they're slowly starting to drop in price. If you want to go all out I'd recommend a 64GB Crucial M4 as your boot drive and a 1TB Spinpoint as your secondary. But alternately you'll probably fine getting a 500GB HD like the Caviar Blue to start with and then adding the SSD later.
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 4, 2012 12:01:31 AM

ok thanks guys for the responses...Could someone explain exactly how information is sent in a multi monitor setting to me?
The gtx 570 i was looking at has 1 hdmi mini and 2 dvi..so should I be ok? furthermore, one of the reasons I was looking at the z68 mobo as opposed to the p67 mobos is the built in gpu. I have seen systems where there are two gpu, a high quality one for gaming and such, and then a cheaper one for say watching a movie while gaming/ being used for surfing the web. I know that for multiple monitors that amount of information can be taxing, thus more vram would be needed.
So would the z68 onboard gpu work, or once a dedicated gpu is inserted is that null and void?
For the monitor set up, in normal non gaming I need tri monitors. I can't go back to two or one. for gaming I was thinking about playing on the main screen (37in lcd) and then maybe watching a movie on one of the smaller monitors.

I will probably go with tht 850w just to be safe.
I am waiting for the hdd last because of the shortages, I am just curious about the ssd. Some people say that they are unreliable and I will be better off, and that the price is not worth the small amount of performance boost. Others swear by them so I don't know.

Thanks guys!
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2012 12:11:39 AM

irishfan89 said:
ok thanks guys for the responses...Could someone explain exactly how information is sent in a multi monitor setting to me?
The gtx 570 i was looking at has 1 hdmi mini and 2 dvi..so should I be ok? furthermore, one of the reasons I was looking at the z68 mobo as opposed to the p67 mobos is the built in gpu. I have seen systems where there are two gpu, a high quality one for gaming and such, and then a cheaper one for say watching a movie while gaming/ being used for surfing the web. I know that for multiple monitors that amount of information can be taxing, thus more vram would be needed.
So would the z68 onboard gpu work, or once a dedicated gpu is inserted is that null and void?
For the monitor set up, in normal non gaming I need tri monitors. I can't go back to two or one. for gaming I was thinking about playing on the main screen (37in lcd) and then maybe watching a movie on one of the smaller monitors.

I will probably go with tht 850w just to be safe.
I am waiting for the hdd last because of the shortages, I am just curious about the ssd. Some people say that they are unreliable and I will be better off, and that the price is not worth the small amount of performance boost. Others swear by them so I don't know.

Thanks guys!


The Z68 onboard will not work once a primary GPU is installed.

The thing with NVIDIA GPUs is that most will be only able to handle 2 x DVI monitors at most. If you get a card like the Sapphire Flex you'll be able to run all 3 monitors in their native 3 x HDMI or 3 x DVI with the third running with a DP adapter. I definitely hear you about not going back to a single display. :lol: 

You can calculate your minimum needed wattage here: http://support.asus.com/PowerSupplyCalculator/PSCalcula...

Add an extra 100W for SLI / Crossfire, add another 50 - 75 if you plan to overclock. 850 should be good without any hiccups.

As far as SSD goes that all depends on how you use them as to whether or not they'll be reliable. It also depends on certain brands too - some are way better than others. You never want to load your drive beyond 80% capacity or want to do anything that will drastically alter your drive's read - write times (heavy benchmarks, loading tons of games, etc). That's why I recommend one for main boot / programs, storing your games and large files on the secondary.

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February 5, 2012 6:11:52 PM

I might just take the leap and get a small ssd to test the waters.
About the tri monitor setup.......
So my options are to either get the gtx 570 with another cheaper gpu which can be SLI'd later or go for the 6970?
Radeon cards don't have the problem with not being able to run three monitors?
This is was the most hotly internal debate of my build the gtx 570 vs the 6970 and from what I read singly they both have pretty much the same performance, but in sli the gtx 570 beats the 6970 crossfire set up by 20% (read on a toms post but this is a highly debated issue).
But if i can save the 100 bucks of having to buy another gpu to run the tri monitors then perhaps its worth it. Anybody want to make me feel better and say the 6970 is just as good singly and in crossfire as the gtx 570 so I can man up and just buy it already?


just a side note...you would think with the huge emergence of multiple monitors mobo makers would find a workaround to be able to use the onboard with a dedicated, just saying I would pay a bit extra for this.

As always, Thanks Guys!
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
February 6, 2012 4:04:51 PM

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I might just take the leap and get a small ssd to test the waters.
About the tri monitor setup.......
So my options are to either get the gtx 570 with another cheaper gpu which can be SLI'd later or go for the 6970?
Radeon cards don't have the problem with not being able to run three monitors?


If you're going to run multiple monitors, the 6970 would be a very wise purchase. The 570 can only run 2 x DVI where the Radeon is a bit more flexible in that it can 2 x DVI, 1 x HDMI, and/or 1 x DP off a single card. If you get a card like Sapphire's Flex series you can run all 3 monitors off 3 x HDMI as opposed to the other connection combos.

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But if i can save the 100 bucks of having to buy another gpu to run the tri monitors then perhaps its worth it. Anybody want to make me feel better and say the 6970 is just as good singly and in crossfire as the gtx 570 so I can man up and just buy it already?


You really can't go wrong with either - do take into account that Radeon is more than worth it for a multiple display setup and you can run it in a single card setup and still achieve really good frame rates.

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just a side note...you would think with the huge emergence of multiple monitors mobo makers would find a workaround to be able to use the onboard with a dedicated, just saying I would pay a bit extra for this.


I'm not sure such a thing exists yet. The onboard graphics will only allow for a single display configuration no matter what display connectors the board has.
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February 6, 2012 4:08:07 PM



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I'm not sure such a thing exists yet. The onboard graphics will only allow for a single display configuration no matter what display connectors the board has.

Not true, right now I'm on dual display with onboard graphics while I wait for my 570.
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February 14, 2012 7:58:02 PM

Best answer selected by irishfan89.
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February 14, 2012 9:04:55 PM

OK . I think I got a handle on it now..Thanks guys!
CPU: i5 2500K
CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (HAF 922 found on craigslist if that doesn't go through http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Additional Cooling: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or something similiar or additional if needed.
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And I think that about covers it unless I forgot anything (first build). Also, I am looking for another 24 inch widescreen monitor, ideally with a stand that can go landscape without those expensive mounting brackets. Any suggestions?
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