$3200 Computer Build

[09mlb86]

I was wondering what people think of this build. I am hopping to get 10 years from it so high quality is my highest concern.

The Power Supply Im not sure of. I always bought PC Power & Cooling but they seem to be garbage now. I would like a Platinum Rated PSU so there are 2 im trying to choose between.

Sea Sonic Platinum 860W 71A: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151111

Enermax 850W 40A (4 Rails): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194098



For the case I want something big and Aluminum so I was thinking:

Lian Li A71 USB 3.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112343



For the MoBo, I'm really biased towards Gigabyte (Currently running X58-UD5) but I heard bad news for their X79 Series so I am looking at an ASUS ROG Board.

ASUS X79 Rampage IV Formula (LGA 2011): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131808



For the CPU I am going I7 3930K (when it comes back in stock?): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116492



For the CPU Cooler, I dont want a water system b/c of leaks and noise acording to reviews, I love my Noctua Coolers and for this build I dont think i could go wrong with the:

Noctua NH-14D (Compatible b/c of ASUS X-Socket Design): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018



For video Cards, I was thinking about the HD 7970 DCII From ASUS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121499



For RAM, I want 16GB (4x4) I normaly buy what ever the better deal is between Kingston HyperX and Muchkin, as them have both treated me very well in the past and i have recived the same amount of failures from each. But the Mushkin RED LINE series matches the MoBo. this is a 16GB set DDR3 @2133: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226274



I want this build to be my first SSD. So any advice as far as that goes im all ears. I chose a Mushkin SSD 120GB. Its their second to highest end model but transfer rates are only 10MB/s different so i cant see paying extra where its not needed.


I already have Plextor DVD+-WR drive and a BD Combo drive
Operating system is Windows 7 before 8 comes out. (64Bit)

I'm carrying over my G15 Keyboard, and I already ordered a G9x Mouse.

I dont want to waste money if its not necsisary like the 10mb/s SSD choice but i dont want any low quality parts.

Thanks in advance for any Feedback.

Please call me Mathew, Thanks!

 

[azeem40]

Crucial m4 is the most reliable ssd on the market. Get the 128gb one. Instead of 4 x 4, get 8 x 2 for dual channel.

 

[09mlb86]

dosnt dual channel defeat the point of a quad channel mobo/cpu?

 

[g-unit1111]

For the case I want something big and Aluminum so I was thinking:

Lian Li A71 USB 3.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112343

IMO - Lian Li is incredibly overrated for what you get price wise vs. competing brands. They make quality cases for sure but there's others you can get that are way more feature-packed for the price. Plus on a build like this I'd suggest going X79 - more future proof and it will last longer with fewer upgrade headaches. And with X79 you need a case that supports XL-ATX (especially if you use the Rampage IV Extreme), and that case won't cut it.

Noctua NH-14D (Compatible b/c of ASUS X-Socket Design): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608018

After the hard time I had with such huge coolers like the D14 and Silver Arrow I really hesitate to recommend them. IMO this is where you want a closed liquid loop - even Intel is going to start selling them with future SB-E CPUs. If you don't want to use water I'd suggest a smaller and more efficient cooler like the NH-U9B. The larger coolers IMO aren't always worth it - pains to install and not a lot of extra payoff for the frustration.

I always bought PC Power & Cooling but they seem to be garbage now. I would like a Platinum Rated PSU so there are 2 im trying to choose between.

Really? I've heard nothing but good things about their Silencer series.

dosnt dual channel defeat the point of a quad channel mobo/cpu?

Yes it does actually. A dual channel system requires 2 x sticks of same memory to function. Triple channel requires 3 of the same, quad channel requires 4, and so on.

Here's how you get a $3200 build based on your requirements:

Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II - $349.99
PSU: Corsair Professional Series AX1050 - $219.99
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme - $449.99
CPU: 3.20GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $599.99
Cooler: Noctua NH-U9B - $59.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 - $139.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $179.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $139.99
Video Card: 2 x Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 - $559.99 each ($1,119.98 total)

Total: $3319.91

You can drop one of the 7970s and it will come out to $2,699.91

 

[azeem40]

Rofl, I didn't realize it was quad channel. My bad.

 

[09mlb86]

For the case I want something big and Aluminum so I was thinking:

Lian Li A71 USB 3.0: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811112343

IMO - Lian Li is incredibly overrated for what you get price wise vs. competing brands. They make quality cases for sure but there's others you can get that are way more feature-packed for the price. Plus on a build like this I'd suggest going X79 - more future proof and it will last longer with fewer upgrade headaches. And with X79 you need a case that supports XL-ATX (especially if you use the Rampage IV Extreme), and that case won't cut it.

Noctua NH-14D (Compatible b/c of ASUS X-Socket Design): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608018

After the hard time I had with such huge coolers like the D14 and Silver Arrow I really hesitate to recommend them. IMO this is where you want a closed liquid loop - even Intel is going to start selling them with future SB-E CPUs.

I always bought PC Power & Cooling but they seem to be garbage now. I would like a Platinum Rated PSU so there are 2 im trying to choose between.

Really? I've heard nothing but good things about their Silencer series.

dosnt dual channel defeat the point of a quad channel mobo/cpu?

Yes it does actually. A dual channel system requires 2 x sticks of same memory to function. Triple channel requires 3 of the same, quad channel requires 4, and so on.

Here's how you get a $3200 build based on your requirements:

Case: Cooler Master Cosmos II - $349.99
PSU: Corsair Professional Series AX1050 - $219.99
Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Extreme - $449.99
CPU: 3.20GHz Intel Core i7-3930K - $599.99
Cooler: Corsair H100 - $119.99
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 - $139.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $179.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $139.99
Video Card: 2 x Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 - $559.99 each ($1,119.98 total)

Total: $3,319.99

You can drop one of the 7970s and it will come out to $2,759.91

The ASUS Rampage Formula IV I linked is an X79 Socket, its ATX formfactor and the best Audio Card

The Silencer MKIII only goes up to 600W... Will that be enough for this system in 10 years with capacitor aging taking affect?

 

[09mlb86]

Rofl, I didn't realize it was quad channel. My bad.

its all good bro, we all make mistakes sometimes, thats why i posted here to find out what others may find flawed!

 

[g-unit1111]

The ASUS Rampage Formula IV I linked is an X79 Socket, its ATX formfactor and the best Audio Card

The Silencer MKIII only goes up to 600W... Will that be enough for this system in 10 years with capacitor aging taking affect?

Oops - I was wrong that wasn't the same motherboard. :lol:

The one I linked to is better in that it has more PCI slots and 8 x DIMM sockets as opposed to four. It's also a lot bigger and meets the XL-ATX specifications which will require the case I linked to.

The Silencer MKII has a 950W version and that will be more than enough for what you need: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703028

 

[09mlb86]

I guess I could always use my 910W Silincer but my fiancee really wants me to get a Platinum one...

 

[a4mula]

Ten years is a lot to ask out of 30K cars today, let alone mass manufactured electronics. I think the wise course of action here would be to spend half your budget now planning a build that you can get 4-5 years out of, which is quite possible. Then build another computer to get that other 4-5 years later. The same $1500 today will buy a system that is 6-8 times as powerful in 5 years.

 

[09mlb86]

I actually had my current build in the original Cosmos and I had a lot of power button problems. thats what moved me into my first Lian Li... Oh I forgot to mention that I would upgrade the Lian Li fans to the Noctua equivalent

 

[09mlb86]

Ten years is a lot to ask out of 30K cars today, let alone mass manufactured electronics. I think the wise course of action here would be to spend half your budget now planning a build that you can get 4-5 years out of, which is quite possible. Then build another computer to get that other 4-5 years later. The same $1500 today will buy a system that is 6-8 times as powerful in 5 years.

This is true but im about to get married and move out into the world... luckily im stuck in Afghanistan for a year to get a headstart. with that being said, I have a system I built in 08 and also my current one from 09 running strong... and if my moms $800 Dell can make it 9 1/2 years (shes still using a P4) than I feel i can make one last about that long. So that is my goal. I know that 12 threads wont always be the best.... but i know that it will be pretty cool to have for at least 3 years

 

[Delirious788]

and if my moms $800 Dell can make it 9 1/2 years (shes still using a P4) than I feel i can make one last about that long.

A P4 is fine if all you are doing is checking email, facebook, and pintrest. I don't think your mom is playing bf3 or codmw3 on it... The GPUs are going to be awful in 6 years. The world will be on AMD Radeon UD 4XXX and nVidia GTZ 3XX in a 5.0x PCIe slot with 10nm CPUs and 128GB HMC(future RAM) and 10TB SSDs.

Sorry for going off topic, but I think we need to be a little more logical and reasonable here. g-unit has a good build for the budget. I just don't think you should expect 10 years, so maybe this might get you to think of going down to a $2000 budget and use the rest to start saving up for a new pc in 4 years.

 

[g-unit1111]

A P4 is fine if all you are doing is checking email, facebook, and pintrest. I don't think your mom is playing bf3 or codmw3 on it... The GPUs are going to be awful in 6 years. The world will be on AMD Radeon UD 4XXX and nVidia GTZ 3XX in a 5.0x PCIe with 10nm CPUs and 10TB SSDs.

Sorry for going off topic, but I think we need to be a little more logical and reasonable here. g-unit has a good build for the budget. I just don't think you should expect 10 years, so maybe this might get you to think of going down to a $2000 budget and use the rest to start saving up for a new pc in 4 years.

The thing is once you buy all the parts if you keep that build for say, 3 years adding and upgrading or replacing parts isn't that difficult. Maybe add a new motherboard here, a new CPU there, and so on and you can prolong the life of your system ten fold. That's what I'm doing with mine - my build is a couple of years old now but if I replace the GPU with a 7950 it will allow me to prolong the life of it considerably.

 

[Delirious788]

The thing is once you buy all the parts if you keep that build for say, 3 years adding and upgrading or replacing parts isn't that difficult. Maybe add a new motherboard here, a new CPU there, and so on and you can prolong the life of your system ten fold. That's what I'm doing with mine - my build is a couple of years old now but if I replace the GPU with a 7950 it will allow me to prolong the life of it considerably.

Sure you can upgrade the GPU, add more RAM, get a new MB/CPU...low and behold you have bought basically a new PC. Thats not really getting 10yrs out of it. For instance, I am on my like my 5th yr with a Q6600 4GB RAM and hd5770(GPU has been the only upgrade). Sure I can put more RAM in it and get a better GPU and possibly get more life out of it, but in reality DDR2 is dead and along with the 775 socket. The only upgrade left is a new cpu which means new MB which means new RAM...minus as well get a whole new PC. I completely understand adding RAM and new GPU as an upgrade to prolong the life, but once you start upgrading the MB or CPU you just need to build a new PC. A new CPU is a new brain...its a new PC then...

 

[09mlb86]

Yeah I see what your saying. I'm not saying i will always use it for gaming but when my 920 system dies i want to be able to give this one to the wife b/c i hate sharing...

MTBF of PSU is 100,000 w/ a 7 year warrenty (seasonic model)

ASUS says their GPU will last 150,000hrs

They claim their mobo will last 5x longer than solid capacitors (40,000hrs * 5 =200,000 hrs?

Mushkin SSD MTBF is 2 million hours (over 200 years 24/7)


100,000 hours = 11.44 years running 24 hours a day 7 days a week.


The RAM is warrented for life and Noctua fans have an MTBF of 100,000hrs... I dont think its too extreame to expect a good build to last 10 years... not a gaming comp the whole time but it will work well as a hand-me-down to my then to be wife..

 

[Delirious788]

I dont think its too extreme to expect a good build to last 10 years... not a gaming comp the whole time but it will work well as a hand-me-down to my then to be wife..

I dont doubt that the parts will last for 10 years. I just wanted to add some reason into the fact that nowadays with how fast technology advances it is hard to make a pc last 5 years and to keep it up with current performance. But if in 5 years its going to be a hand me down to the wife then that works. Again, I just wanted to make sure that you knew you probably wont be gaming on it in 10 years...checking email...yes...gaming...no.

 

[09mlb86]

lol ok now that we established that... what do u think of my build?

 

[jimmy19]

Get a $1600 bulid now
invest the other $1600 and in 5 years you can buy a $5000 build man
Like Delirious788 said
ypu will be checking e-mails in 10 years and watch movies but you wont be gaming(low quality maybe). most parts wont last more than 7 years and even if they last they will perform poor.Even Intel goes to 8 year life span on CPU's
cheers

 

[g-unit1111]

lol ok now that we established that... what do u think of my build?

It's pretty good - I'd suggest looking at the parts I linked to - particularly the motherboard. The one you linked to is good but for X79 it's limited to 4 x DIMM slots where the Rampage IV is only ~$70 more, has additional X16 graphics card slots (can support up to 4 x SLI or 4 x Crossfire) and 8 x DIMM slots.

 

[elbert]

In April an Intel 3770K 22nm CPU with a Z77 motherboard. It should easily out clock the 3930K as well the c1 3930k is vm bugged.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-core-i7-3770k-benchmarks-leaked/14714.html
The 3770K leak suggests a 9% performance advantage. Should do 5GHz on air and will be near half the cost of the 3930K.


The 3930K only gets about a %15 advantage over 2600K. The 3930K tho on air only clocks about 4.4~4.5GHz.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3930k-3820-test-benchmark,3090-14.html

 

[g-unit1111]

In April an Intel 3770K 22nm CPU with a Z77 motherboard. It should easily out clock the 3930K as well the c1 3930k is vm bugged.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-core-i7-3770k-benchmarks-leaked/14714.html

I'd definitely take that with a grain of salt, but that's about what I have expected with Intel and Ivy.

 

[Daiyuki]

It's pretty good - I'd suggest looking at the parts I linked to - particularly the motherboard. The one you linked to is good but for X79 it's limited to 4 x DIMM slots where the Rampage IV is only ~$70 more, has additional X16 graphics card slots (can support up to 4 x SLI or 4 x Crossfire) and 8 x DIMM slots.

Rampage IV Formula is a better deal. The Extreme does its name justice and gives you lots of Extreme BIOS overclocking options and some cool features. That said, all of the useful stuff is on the Formula, like the DIMMs and PCIe slots as well as a lot of the OC options, but for cheaper.