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February 4, 2012 2:24:04 PM

Hello, I recently purchased an Acer Aspire AX1420 with the intention of using it for simple tasks at home, but I have recently decided to use it for some moderate, casual gaming. Unfortunately it does not have the proper specs to run games like Team Fortress 2 at all. I was wondering if I would be safe putting in a Radeon Hd 6570 or an Hd 5450 into it (despite its painfully small 220w power supply) or if it would be safe to remove all of its components and put them into a new tower and upgrade it from there? I don't need ultra gaming performance, just enough power to run recent games well enough to play.

My Specs can be found here http://www.compusa.com/applications/searchtools/item-de...

Any advice is greatly appreciated!

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February 4, 2012 2:47:22 PM

Buy a new case, new power supply, move everything there and after that you can upgrade all what you need to play on medium ,high all the games.
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February 4, 2012 2:58:25 PM

An HD 6450 would work well, but I wouldn't try a 6570 or higher. That low-end card would allow you to play TF2 fine.

Maybe wait and see what the HD 7450 looks like, though.

Oh, and your case requires a LOW PROFILE card, not a regular one.

You could take your parts and put them in a regular tower, but the motherboard probably won't fit in an aftermarket case... If not, you'll need a new one along with some thermal paste to reinstall your CPU and cooler. And you'll need a new ATX PSU.
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February 4, 2012 3:11:57 PM

Thank you both very much for your replies it is much appreciated :)  , I think i will hold off on moving all of my components (for money is a bit tight at the moment). Do either of you think i could get away with playing Tf2 and other games decently with a Hd 5450? Particularly this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or should i go ahead and buy a 6450 with a fan like this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And like i said before im not looking to play every game on ultra, just looking to play them smoothly on medium to low settings without damaging my computer in anyway, sorry about all my questions, I am fairly new at this.
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February 5, 2012 5:40:25 PM

You've got a slim-tower - the only cards that will fit are on a short-bracket. The only one suggested so far that will fit is the HD 6670 I referenced.

Take a look at the back of your computer:



Those two slots at the top are just under 4 inches long - almost all cards come on a 5.4-inch bracket. Sorry man, slim-towers are difficult to upgrade.
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February 6, 2012 1:12:59 AM

Ah, well thank you for your help, i will be on the look out for a graphics card that will fit, your help is much appreciated.
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February 7, 2012 12:45:32 AM

jessterman21 said:
You've got a slim-tower - the only cards that will fit are on a short-bracket. The only one suggested so far that will fit is the HD 6670 I referenced.

Take a look at the back of your computer:

http://images.highspeedbackbone.net/SkuImages/gallery/large/A180-140005_phgallery08_em_1709367.jpg

Those two slots at the top are just under 4 inches long - almost all cards come on a 5.4-inch bracket. Sorry man, slim-towers are difficult to upgrade.



Help me understand, I may have been giving bad advice. What makes this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

not fit? It has a low profile bracket and is shorter than the card you recommend. And will also work w/o swapping power supply.


EDIT: this is the spec?

The PCI organization has defined a standard for "low-profile" cards, which basically fit in the following ranges:

Height: 1.42 inches (36.07 mm) to 2.536 inches (64.41 mm)
Depth: 4.721 inches (119.91 mm) to 6.6 inches (167.64 mm)


5.X. Low Profile PCI Cards
Low profile PCI allows the design of small footprint, low profile systems while still offering expandability and
upgradeability to the end user. There are two defined card lengths for low profile PCI, MD1 and MD2. MD1
defines the shortest 32-bit card length available, 119,91 mm (4.721 inches). MD2 defines the maximum length of
low profile PCI cards, 167,64 mm (6.600 inches). Any low profile PCI card that is longer than the MD1 definition
is considered an MD2 card form factor. The two card lengths allow system designers to support either all low
profile PCI cards, which include MD1 and MD2, or limit their design to support only MD1 cards. Low profile PCI
MD1 cards provide 4.8 square inches of board real estate and may be very limiting to adapter card vendors. Low
profile PCI is intended for use in the smallest system designs. See Figures 5-XX through 5-XX for low profile PCI
expansion card physical dimensions.

http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/conventional/conve...
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February 7, 2012 11:21:17 AM

tsnor said:
Help me understand, I may have been giving bad advice. What makes this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Radeon HD 6570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card

not fit? It has a low profile bracket and is shorter than the card you recommend. And will also work w/o swapping power supply.

Facepalm. I didn't see that it came with a half-height bracket too. OP, an HD 6570 should work, just make sure it comes with a half-height bracket as well.
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February 13, 2012 12:18:00 AM

Haha it is alright gentleman, thank you for your responses, (sorry for the late response my internet has was being worked on for the last few days) So let me get this straight, I should be alright with a low profile card as long as it comes with low profile brackets yes? And in that case what option will be safest? (Least power usage and least likely to over heat or damage my machine in some way) A 5450 like this? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or a 6570 like this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I guess what I am trying to ask is which card will allow me to play the games i want to smoothly (specifically tf2 and minecraft) with moderate to low graphics without risking my entire machine? And once again thank you guys so much for your help :) 
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February 14, 2012 12:00:18 AM

Alright! Thank you very much, I will purchase one soon and let you guys know how it turned out. Any particular suggestions on reliable companies or products?
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February 14, 2012 12:03:48 AM

And before I go, I have one very last question. Is the 6450 the only card that will run tf2 smoothly while using the least amount of power? Or can i go a little bit lower performance-wise to lessen the power use?
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February 14, 2012 2:06:26 AM

A 6450 is a crappy card. It is for home theater, not gaming.

This hd6570 is low profile, draws only 45 watts, will work with your existing power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121441

6570 vs. 6450

Power Usage and Theoretical Benchmarks
Power Consumption (Max TDP)
Radeon HD 6450 (OEM) 31 Watts
Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB 50 Watts

Difference: 19 Watts (61%)

Memory Bandwidth

In theory, the Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB should perform much faster than the Radeon HD 6450 (OEM) overall. (explain)

Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB 28800 MB/sec
Radeon HD 6450 (OEM) 12800 MB/sec

Difference: 16000 (125%)

Texel Rate
The Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB is quite a bit (about 212%) more effective at AF than the Radeon HD 6450 (OEM). (explain)

Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB 15600 Mtexels/sec
Radeon HD 6450 (OEM) 5000 Mtexels/sec

Difference: 10600 (212%)

Pixel Rate
If running with a high resolution is important to you, then the Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB is superior to the Radeon HD 6450 (OEM), by a large margin. (explain)

Radeon HD 6570 (OEM) 1GB 5200 Mpixels/sec
Radeon HD 6450 (OEM) 2500 Mpixels/sec

Difference: 2700 (108%)
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February 14, 2012 12:28:36 PM

I totally agree with tsnor - an HD 6570 would be much better for gaming and you could use it with your current PSU.

But if you're dead-set on lowest power usage, go for the HD 6450 - it will provide acceptable framerates on medium settings in TF2 and Minecraft.
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February 14, 2012 9:19:38 PM

Well gentleman thank you both so much for your help once again, I just recently found out that one of my friends has a spare 5450 from an old rig and Ill try that out, but if it doesn't deliver I will certainly buy a 6570. I will let you guys know how it turns out!
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