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February 4, 2012 5:10:52 PM

I already posted this question but in the wrong section of the forum.
i'm currently building a new computer and i have 2 choices

build 1

motherboard rampage IV http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813131802

memory 16 gb corsair vengeance http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820233236

cpu i7 3930k http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6819116492

cpu cooler corsair h100 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6835181017

video card 7970 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814102961

case haf x 942 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811119225

psu antec 1200w http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371043

total : 2400$

maybe i can put the same water cooling in the build #2 in #1 but it's more money. i can also w8 for the 7970 water cooled from powercolor. let me know what you think.

build 2

motherboard g1 assasin http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6813128472

cpu intel i7-960 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6819115224

cpu cooler Swiftech H2O-X20 (2 or 3 120mm) http://www.swiftech.com/H2O-x20-Edge-HD.aspx

memory 12 gb corsair vengeance http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6820233146

video card evga 580 hydro copper http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6814130665

case haf x 942 invidia edition http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6811119236

psu antec 1200w http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817371043

total : 2200$

water cooled and less money. but the performance suffer.

let me know what you think and sorry for my bad english (i'm french btw)

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February 4, 2012 5:26:22 PM

I would definitely go with the first one. The second one is using the outdated first gen Bloomfield CPUs and those aren't as fast as the Sandy Bridge CPUs. Also the first build is a 6 core CPU while the 2nd build is a 4 core CPU. Also, the 7970 is a little bit better of a graphics card than the gtx 580. The extra $200 is worth it.
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February 4, 2012 5:33:53 PM

ok first build is better. but should I put water cooling in it and w8 for the 7970 from powercolor
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2012 5:48:51 PM

That depends on you. If you want water cooling, then go ahead. Also, yes, if the Powercolor is sold out, see if you can find another deal on the 7970 or wait for it to be back in stock.
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February 4, 2012 5:53:38 PM

I would do neither.

For gaming, a 2500K with a conservative overclock will perform just as well from a cpu point of view, and cost considerably less.
Few games use more than two or three cores, so a quad is enough. There are a few wxceptions, like FSX, but on balance you will do better with fewer, faster cores.

For graphics, a GTX580 should be plenty for a single 1920 x 1200 monitor, and the 7970 would be as good as it gets.

The 1200w psu in either case is overkill. A GTX580 can run on as little as 600w, and the 7970 on 500w. It is not wrong to go stronger though.
I approve of antec as a psu brand, and look at seasonic, corsair, xfx, and pcp&c for good quality.

Liquid cooling is not needed. For the same price, you can get a noctua NH-D14 which will be quieter and just as cool when placed in a good cooling case like the haf series.
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February 4, 2012 6:07:21 PM

geofelt i don't want the best build for the money. I want an extreme build with 2200-2600$ range. i don't care if liquid cooling is not needed it's awsome!
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 4, 2012 6:08:22 PM

OP wants to build a system for funzies and say "I have an awesome computer"
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February 4, 2012 7:33:24 PM

ramphil said:
geofelt i don't want the best build for the money. I want an extreme build with 2200-2600$ range. i don't care if liquid cooling is not needed it's awsome!


1) A 2500K when oc'ed will be faster than a i7-960, and comparable to the 3930K. A 2600K or 2700K can possibly be a bit faster.
Regardless, your "extreme" build will be old hat in April when ivy bridge arrives. You would be best off if you used a 2500K now, and replaced it with ivy bridge then.

2) For an "extreme" build, get a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor; there is nothing better. A7970 will drive that very well.

3) What is an extreme build doing without a SSD?

4) If you want an extra 1-3c of cooling and are prepared for the noise of high speed fans, then the H100 is your cooler.
If you want quiet, then the noctua NH-D14 is better.
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February 4, 2012 7:56:34 PM

geofelt said:
1) A 2500K when oc'ed will be faster than a i7-960, and comparable to the 3930K. A 2600K or 2700K can possibly be a bit faster.
Regardless, your "extreme" build will be old hat in April when ivy bridge arrives. You would be best off if you used a 2500K now, and replaced it with ivy bridge then.

2) For an "extreme" build, get a 30" 2560 x 1600 monitor; there is nothing better. A7970 will drive that very well.

3) What is an extreme build doing without a SSD?

4) If you want an extra 1-3c of cooling and are prepared for the noise of high speed fans, then the H100 is your cooler.
If you want quiet, then the noctua NH-D14 is better.



I already have a ssd :)  . I also want a quiet build I heard the h100 makes weird noises.
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February 4, 2012 8:16:35 PM

ramphil said:
I already have a ssd :)  . I also want a quiet build I heard the h100 makes weird noises.


Liquid cooling has two parts that can create noise, the pump and the radiator fans. An air cooler has only one.
In this case, the noctua has the best and quietest fans in the business.
It is the ever present tradeoff, cooling vs. noise.
For good info on quiet computing visit www.silentpcreview.com
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