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December 8, 2011 12:16:59 AM

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=60932&promoid=12...

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=62248


Which one should I go with? I play a wide variety of games (other than Racers), and this is going with my new system which is gonna have an i5-2500k, ASUS P8Z68-V Pro GEN3. Need help with the decision!

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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 12:23:06 AM

if you ever plan to upgrade to a multi-gpu setup in the future, the 6970 is definitely your card - two 6970s outperform 2 GTX570s by a fair bit.

If you are adamant you won't be going multi-gpu, then get the GTX570. As a single card it is amazing, and it is also a bit cheaper in your case. However, if you are gonna go single card for certain, i would suggest either:

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58573&vpn=012-P3-1571-KR&...
or
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59238&vpn=ENGTX570%20DCII...
as my EVGA cards have been amazing, and my ASUS hardware has always been flawless, but the two gigabyte cards I have had (5770 and GTX470) were both faulty, unreliable, and the service was average.
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December 8, 2011 12:28:54 AM

I feel as if I might be going Multi GPU some time in the future, seems a bit better than completely buying a newer and more expensive card, especially with DX11 which is gonna be around for a bit. Thanks for helping me with this decision, I've been going crazy. The last question I have though, is how our two GPUS? I've heard some down falls and I'd just like to know about them going into this. Thanks again!
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a c 612 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:03:25 AM

The Gigabyte GTX 570 SOC is one of the absolute best graphics you can buy cards below the GTX 580 level. It is guaranteed to be faster than that Asus 6970 in likely all games you throw at it, and do it very quietly with that excellent Windforce cooler. It comes with a custom PCB and upper end components to help it overclock even more beyond its already top in class factory overclock.

If you are thinking about the dual GPU upgrade, don't believe the rhetoric that Crossfire scales better than SLI. They actually scale about the same, and certainly not enough to make an inferior card run faster than a faster card. The last issue to mention in that category is that driver quality clearly falls in favor of the Nvidia cards, particularly when it comes to dual card setups. For examplem Skyrim had SLI support right out of the gate, while 6970 Crossfire users had to wait at least two weeks and they still are at a disadvantage to the GTX 570 SLI setups.
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December 8, 2011 1:05:53 AM

Can you guys provide links to proof? I'm confused too what to do now...
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a c 88 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:11:17 AM

I agree with Matto , the gigabyte 570 SOC is a fast card and if you want to go multi it will save you some money buying 2 of them. The nvidia driver sare better at the mo. If you look at the Skyrim article on here you can see for yourself which cards perfrom better and so on and choose for yourself.
Both set ups are excellent , just comes down to what you really want in the end.
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:17:54 AM

hang on a sec here jstgmr.....

you had to know that that question will only (for the most part) bring out a whole lot of fanboyish response......

at the level your considering BOTH cards will allow you to game at reasonably high settings.....

the driver issues are a push......neither company has a lead in that dept.....if there is a slight dif....one could say amd may have a cppl more issues at the release of a game.....but there hotfixes come out WAY quicker......

heres how id make the decision.....

if your monitor you game on is 1080x1920 res or LOWER......go with the Nvidia

if its 1200x1920 or higher OR you plan on eyefinity.......go with amd


good luck

bTx
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a c 612 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:22:36 AM

JustaGamer said:
Can you guys provide links to proof? I'm confused too what to do now...

Scaling really depends on the game being played and the horsepower you have in your CPU as a bottleneck. If you add up and average the scores in this chart, you will see they are nearly even across a variety of benchmarks.

(click to enlarge)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/radeo...

"Comparing CrossFireX and SLI with respect to top-end graphics cards, we cannot prefer either of them because their standings depend much on a particular game"
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:47:21 AM

In this thread we decided similar powered cards are similar...

Go with whatever is cheaper. If you have a preference, it's fine to go with whatever you prefer. The driver and scaling issues are WAY overblown, and are usually repeated nonsensically by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 1:49:13 AM

yeah.....you gotta take those xibit results with a grain (or dump truck full) of salt......

it's quite well known that they're on the take with Nvidia
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a c 88 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:04:44 AM

Really?
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December 8, 2011 2:19:26 AM

I feel like the 6970. If we were talking the 580 though, it would be another story. Go with the 6970 if not.
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a c 612 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:20:08 AM

badtaylorx said:
yeah.....you gotta take those xibit results with a grain (or dump truck full) of salt......
it's quite well known that they're on the take with Nvidia

badtaylorx said:
hang on a sec here jstgmr.....
you had to know that that question will only (for the most part) bring out a whole lot of fanboyish response......

+1
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a c 143 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:28:05 AM

@matoo17secs
I wonder when will you stop giving wrong information just for being a nVidia fan ?
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a c 612 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:36:57 AM

badtaylorx said:
you had to know that that question will only (for the most part) bring out a whole lot of fanboyish response......

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a c 143 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:40:05 AM

@Original Poster
Even with the charts provided for CF vS SLI scaling, the HD 6970 got 6 wins almost in each resolution benchmark over the GTX 570. THEY DO SCALE BETTER.

Actually Tomshardware reviewed HD 6950s in CF VS GTX 570 SLI in 2-way/3-way CF/SLI, can you imagine what was the result ? HD 6950s beat GTX 570s SLI in 3-way setup and was very close in 2-way setup. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE RESULTS WITH HD 6970s.

And that being said that Gigabyte GTX 570 is the fastest, there's a Gigabyte HD 6970 SOC too, and Overall a standard HD 6970 is over GTX 570.
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a c 143 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:42:25 AM

@matto17sec
Unfortunately i'm a fanboy in person, when it goes to the performance i recommend the best.
INTEL > AMD
AMD > nVidia

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December 8, 2011 2:43:35 AM

If you did anything other then gaming like video editing or something that would take advantage of nvidia's Cuda, that would make this decision a lot easier.

Fanboy wise you can't really go wrong with amd or nvidia right now. the 2 cards are neck and neck for the most part and will outgame each other depending on what game you're playing in some cases.

Asus and Gigabyte are both pretty respectable. Both are using some pretty customized gear on those cards.

I suppose one thing of note is the Asus 6970 is a 3 slot card, so if you are planning to sli or depending on your case, you'll want to make sure that wont be an issue, as the Gigabyte 570 is only a 2 slot, it will be more likely to fit, but if you check first it shouldn't really be an issue either way.
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a c 88 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:43:37 AM

Apologies to the OP....
Well done guys , a real mature approach to assisting someone with a simple question!
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a c 143 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:47:53 AM

With a simple answer, HD 6970 is better than GTX 570 specially in high resolutions, 1080P and above. The only case i recommend the GTX 570 is for playing at lower resolutions 1680x and below.

And if Going SLI/CF with those cards for sure it goes to the HD 6970.
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a c 612 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 2:52:22 AM

monsta said:
Apologies to the OP....
Well done guys , a real mature approach to assisting someone with a simple question!

Thanks monsta. Someone shouldn't be exposed to personal attacks just for giving an honest... and accurate, answer.

In terms of Crossfiring a pair of DirectCU cards, they are triple slot coolers and likely will not work in most cases.
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a c 88 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 7:22:56 PM

The 6970 is 10 bucks cheaper after rebate and performs better than a 570 which is also dependant on the games you play.
The 570 you have chosen is a fast 570 and perfroms very well which would be good if you are looking to play a game like Batman that uses Physx.
Both are great choices , the 6970 is faster and for that price I would get the 6970.
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 8:04:34 PM

6970 is better at this point in time
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December 8, 2011 8:07:03 PM

Alrighty, thanks guys, I think I've got my choice made.
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 8:07:49 PM

If you are planning to add another one of the Asus HD 6970's, make sure you have an extended motherboard because the cooler on that card takes up 3 slots.
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a b U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 8:09:18 PM

ah matto17secs lol

get the 6970 dude 2gb better dual card scaling eyefinity! I got the powercolor pcs+ version I also did a lot of research before buying. Always buy a card that provides better performances at higher resolutions.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
December 8, 2011 8:17:14 PM

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