$800 AMD Gaming Build

I am new to Tom's Hardware but have always used it as a reference point. I am looking to build an AMD Gaming Rig, but not very familiar with all the choices and compatibility. I do not live near a Micro center (Rochester,NY) so New-egg is preferred site but open to suggestions, and I'm looking to make purchases in the next couple weeks. All that is needed tower and components, have OS,monitor,keyboard, mouse. Any and all help is greatly appreciated, thank you
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  1. Approximate Purchase Date: Next couple of weeks

    Budget Range: $800-$900

    System Usage from Most to Least Important: GAMING

    Parts Not Required: Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse, OS

    Preferred Website(s) for Parts: New-Egg but open to suggestions

    Country: Rochester, NY (USA)

    Parts Preferences: I want to go AMD, already have Intel

    Overclocking: possibly

    SLI or Crossfire: yes but not right away
  2. Hi, I'm new to Tom's Hardware but have always used it as a quality reference point. I have seen that here at Tom's you lean away from AMD but i already have an i7 system, hence why I want to go AMD this time. Any and all help, suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thank you and I hope to hear from you guys soon
  3. what kind of I7? Unless its a sandy bridge I7, I'd still say AMD is not very good.

    I'll quote the sub-$200 article last week.

    "we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point."

    This picture shows the dual-core only Pentium G860 beats the AMD Phenom II 955, and all FX processors:
  4. dont double post
    thank you
  5. if you have an i7 and you want to build amd system then you're downgrading
  6. AMD Phenom II X4 970 Deneb 3.5GHz: $130 (there is a 10%-off coupon floating around)

    CM Hyper TX3 Cooler: $20

    Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+: $140 before $10 rebate

    Gigabyte Radeon HD 6950 1GB: $250

    XFX Core Edition PRO650W: $96 before $15 rebate

    That's around $625, and will kick ass.
  7. Just for giggles, I'd rock this if I didnt build my i5 recently. Went for a kind of Industrial/Ninja theme. I nicknamed it "The Dark Horse"

    CPU = AMD Phenom II x4 980

    MOBO = Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD3

    RAM = Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 8gb DDR3-1600

    CPU COOLER = Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

    CASE = Fractal Design Core 3000

    PSU = SeaSonic S12II 620w 80+ Bronze Certified

    GPU = Sapphire Radeon 6870

    HDD = Seagate 500gb HD

    TOTAL = 791.92 (theres $20 in shipping but you get a $20 MIR, so it cancels)

    EDIT:

    Crud, I forgot your Optical...

    OPTICAL = Samsung 22x DVD Burner

    TOTAL = 807.91
  8. Hey guys thanks for your quick responses. I forgot to specify that my i7 is (i7 Q 720) Sony VAIO F Series laptop, which i love and plays games decently. But building from scratch and with the budget I have I'm going to go AMD. So any thoughts and builds that you can put together are greatly appreciated. thanks again
  9. ya sorry about that, wasn't exactly sure where to post until I found the New Build forum in System. thanks though
  10. Hey guys, very similar to the build I'm trying to put together, based around the AMD P2x4. But I notice you all opted for the GIGABYTE 990FXA?!

    I've been debating between this board and the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX, and was just wondering was there any reasoning for choosing this one??

    I'm not looking for a big gaming system but instead a solid multi-tasker with some additional gaming, so I thought about RAM and future proofing with a healthy 16Gb. I had looked at the Mushkin @ 1.35V for stability and possible future OC, but wasn't sure if it was the way to go?

    You seem to be the guys in the now, so any pointers would be greatly appreciated :)
  11. EaYaJB said:
    Hey guys, very similar to the build I'm trying to put together, based around the AMD P2x4. But I notice you all opted for the GIGABYTE 990FXA?!

    I've been debating between this board and the ASUS Sabertooth 990FX, and was just wondering was there any reasoning for choosing this one??

    I'm not looking for a big gaming system but instead a solid multi-tasker with some additional gaming, so I thought about RAM and future proofing with a healthy 16Gb. I had looked at the Mushkin @ 1.35V for stability and possible future OC, but wasn't sure if it was the way to go?

    You seem to be the guys in the now, so any pointers would be greatly appreciated :)



    Use RAM that has been qualified by your vendor. Most AM3+ QVL lists have a good many 4GB sticks.

    Any -FX motherboard will have 42 PCIe lanes off the northbridge. The Sabertooth is a great motherboard. For me, Gigabyte is simply a personal preference - I prefer their BIOS support and some models offer features I look for, like 2xeSATA 6Gb/s and upgraded 8xSATA 6Gb/s on-board.

    You should probably start a new thread for specific input.
  12. Hey guys I have compiled a decent list of parts and it's just a little over the $800 budget but I can handle that. Please let me know if all is copatible and looks good. Thanks again to everyone for there help too.

    GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990X SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $134.99

    AZZA Triton 401 Black SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $29.99 (with rebate)

    RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply $59.99 ($5.99 shipping)

    G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL $46.99

    OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $165.99

    LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM $17.99

    *COMBO
    *HIS IceQ X Turbo H695QNT2G2M Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
    *AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDZ980FBK4DGM - OEM $413.98

    Total=$869.92
  13. Be sure to update the firmware of your SSD prior to installing your OS.

    I'm not familiar with that PSU -- check Hardware Secrets for good PSU reviews.

    'C3-stepping' PhII quads will all pretty much OC to the same level with good air so there are other options available to you for saving a few bucks.
  14. I'll still suggest at $800 you can get an i5-2400 or 2500 thats better than ever single chip AMD makes
  15. Update : didn't see that you had an os, it'll be around 600 without it, you could maybe get a 6870, maybe a bigger hard drive/better case. hope i helped
  16. You can do an intel build for $800.
  17. Ya I went through and compared the specs and i'm going to stick with AMD because if I go with Intel I'm really gona have to short change on PSU & GPU. I'm still in the process of deciding so if anyone has anymore suggestions or previous builds please post em' up. Thanks again guys for all the help
  18. FX 6100 or FX 4100
    Asrock 970 series chipset mb
    2 x4 gig of RAM
    hyper 212 cooler

    You should easily hit 4.5 GHz with this set up

    GTX 560 ti or Radeon 6950

    Antec 300 two case

    500- 600 watt psu

    As you can see here from this page of the article the screwed up squirrel posted b4
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-apu-benchmark,3120-4.html

    the FX 4100 plays BF3 at 1080p resolution LESS THAN ONE fps slower than the intel fanboy favorite the 2500k
  19. Well if you go back a page to a CPU dependent game, and there is a 20 FPS difference.
  20. BF3 isn't CPU bound.

    the overall result is far clearer:

  21. ScrewySqrl said:
    BF3 isn't CPU bound.

    the overall result is far clearer:

    http://media.bestofmicro.com/X/F/323907/original/Averages.png


    This chart is not "clearer"
    Its biased because some of the games with older game engines only use 2 cores .
    That means the intel i3's show better results in those games

    But in more recent titles [and most future titles ] that are multithreaded the FX will equal or exceed the intel .
  22. I did have a similar build to this, as noted above, which was actually designed for multi-tasking (which is supposedly what AMD do) and not gaming (which is what Intel do), but with further research the age of the AMD really shows.

    Yes there's a lot to be said for the Phenom, but if you go 960T there's the possibility of 6 cores and some serious power after an unlock and overclock (5 mins reading around), however, this is almost always required atm just to keep up with Intel. It's just a case of age as the new generation of FX just doesn't cut it. Where as a new i5 2500k straight out of the box will put all AMD bellow FX8100 to shame.

    I hate to say it, I've always had a thing for AMD, but Phenoms have had their day. Bulldozer was the replacement and they're just not going to cut it. Price per pound, you just wont get the performance you want from a similar priced AMD to Intel when gaming, although you want to keep price down. AMD is cheaper, but they're tired and sadly Bulldozer wasn't the stimulus they needed.

    Maybe check out my build, especially GPU for BF3:
    http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/336476-13-could-critique-build-please
  23. EaYaJB said:
    Where as a new i5 2500k straight out of the box will put all AMD bellow FX8100 to shame.


    what else would you expect?
    The 2500k is $220

    you want AMD processors that cost less to do more? Why?
  24. well since he want an AMD build lets give it to him, since you have an OS, go get a better case, no need for a bigger hdd, as price right now doesn't seems worth it, since when the time comes for you to junk your system out, the case always stays..

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220557
    this for ram,

    this for the case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119239

    and what drew13 recommended, just that exchange those ram and case for this
  25. I would go like this:

    CPU: Phenom 2 980 black edition
    Case: HAF 912
    Motherboard: ASUS Sabertooth 990fx
    RAM: Your choice, theres so many you can buy.
    PSU: Corsair TX750
    GPU: GTX 560 ti
    HDD: your choice as well

    I think this will run for about 780$, if it goes to expensive, get the 550 ti instead of the 560 ti.
  26. This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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    $800 AMD Gaming Build
  28. At this price point, I really can't see why you'd want an AMD. An $800 Intel build doesn't have to skimp on the graphics or PSU. Indeed, if you're planning on pairing the Phenom with a higher end GPU, you're going to have a CPU bottleneck in your gaming anyway.

    This may be a bit dated in pricing, particularly the HDD, but it's only slightly over your budget and will give you bounds of extra performance, efficiency, and longevity.

    $220 i5-2500K
    $150 Z68 Board ( Less if you're willing to go P67 )
    $50 4GB RAM
    $60 Case
    $90 650W Antec Green PSU
    $20 DVD Drive
    $170 Radeon 6870
    $760 Total

    Then throw whatever you can at a HDD. Yeah, it might be a little over your $800 budget, but I'd be willing to spend 10% over my budget if it meant a 20%+ performance and longevity boost.
  29. Does AMD even manufacture desktop cpu's these days? ZING!!!

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-KKN1/dp/B003ZM7YTA/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1330324986&sr=1-2 $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

    http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-80PLUS-Bronze-Performance-compatible/dp/B005A2RJOI/ref=sr_1_7?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1330392187&sr=1-7 $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 $129.99
    ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 $224.99 FREE SHIPPING
    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10-212P-G1/dp/B002G1YPH0/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b $24.21 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
    Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546 $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
    G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB

    http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Internal-DRW-24B1ST/dp/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b $20.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
    Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

    http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST500DM002/dp/B005CT56R6/ref=sr_1_3?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1330325450&sr=1-3 $84.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    Seagate Barracuda 7200 500 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 16 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive ST500DM002

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401 $209.99
    GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

    Total: $900.13 *not including shipping and mail in rebates


    ***alternatives for that build to lower the price (6870 version)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148542 $27.99 FREE SHIPPING
    Crucial Ballistix sport 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT2G3D1609DS1S00

    http://www.amazon.com/SAPPHIRE-Radeon-6870-GDDR5-Graphics/dp/B005C8RTTU $169.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    SAPPHIRE AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card

    http://www.amazon.com/XFX-PRO650W-Bronze-Energy-Certified/dp/B0045L5LGI/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1330392842&sr=1-4 $89.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
    XFX PRO650W Core Edition 80+ Bronze ATX 650 Energy Star Certified Power Supply

    Total $833.13
  30. Well I have made all my purchases and just wanted to thank everyone for the help and advice. The final build looks like this.

    1x MSI 990FXA-GD65 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s

    1x AMD FX-6100 Zambezi 3.3GHz Socket AM3+

    1x SAPPHIRE 100312-3SR Radeon HD 6950 Dirt3 Edition 2GB 256-bit (Dual BIOS Switch)

    1x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

    1x RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-630SS 630W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Power Supply, New Version

    1x Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500413AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s

    1x NZXT M59 - 001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    1x LG 22X Super-Multi DVD

    2x Rosewill RFA-120-K 120mm Case Fan

    1x Rosewill RFA-120-BL 120mm 4 Blue LEDs LED Case Fan

    1x LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL2 12" DUAL COLD CATHODE KIT

    1x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

    Total With Shipping=$905.33

    I went a little over the budget I wanted but I picked up some extra shifts and I've got just about $100 coming back in Rebates...hopefully. lol So thank you guys again and please give feed back as I should be getting everything tomorrow or the day after, so I'll see if I can post some picks of the finished product.
  31. oh ya sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm looking into CPU Cooling options. I kind of like the ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118019 If anyone has used this brand before let me know how what you think or if there are any compatibility issues. Thanks again
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