Help for an old dog building a new trick.

[Lystell]

First off let me say you guys and gals on the forums and Tom's Hardware in general are great. I have been coming to this sight for helpful information for years.

We, hubbie and I, do not do much as far as games anymore just play on pogo and watch movies.

With all of the newer movies, cameras, video recorders, and TV's coming out with 3D it looks as though it is going to become mainstream in the not so distant future. So I would like something that with minimal input could be adapted to that as the price becomes more affordible for the mainstrem market.

The motherboard in the computer I am replacing went out and I am going to replace it and give it to a friend that needs a computer for her kids.

What I may keep from the old computer:
Thermaltake shark case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133143

Thermaltake toughpower 850W power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153043

What I am looking at buying is on Newegg but I would not be opposed to other places if items could be found cheaper. I don't need this in a hurry as I have another pc and 2 laptops in the house that I can use. However these belong to the kids and between homework and games they keep them busy most of the time.

Rosewill Thor V2-white. Yes I like the white case better than the black one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147158

Asus sabertooth X79 5 year warr.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801

Intelcore i7 2600 No I do not over clock change voltage or any of that other stuff.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115071

Corsair vengence 8gb These were chosen specifically because they are 1.35v not 1.5v
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233244

EVGA GTX 560 Ti There is a 1gb and 2 gb version of this card not sure which to buy. I will probably get a second and sli in the near future. Just because I have never done it and would like to say I did. One item off the bucket ist so to speak.....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130610
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130662

Corsair SSD 120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233206

There you have it. Willing to take any input, suggestions, coments or concerns. Would like to get the price down a bit if I could but not truly a concern. Just hate to make the leap without a little advice from some folks with more knowledge than myself.

 

[Pezcore27]

The i7-2600 and the ASUS Sabertooth X79 are not compatable. The i7-2600 is a LGA 1155 Socket and the X79 is a LGA 2011 Socket.

May I suggest the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN 3 as a very suitable replacement:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131790

Also I might suggest looking into a better power supply, especially if you are wanting to SLI 2x 560ti's in the future. Something along the lines of this:

XFX PRO850w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207017

or

Corsair Professional Series HX850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139011

 

[neal0790]

I also reccomend the board pezcore27 posted.

Also you might want to take a look at this SSD too
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148448

Its a 128gb and is a more reliable name. $20 more but i think its work it.

 

[mikerockett]

If you're intending to use this system just to play flash games and watch movies as per your first post it seems like an insane amount of overkill :/

 

[Pezcore27]

I think it's also in case the kids want to play on it too, but yes tremendous overkill.

A basic i3-2100 build could accomplish the same thing for far less money.

 

[Lystell]

yes the kids will be playing games on this as well. It has been years and years since I last built a computer so just getting back into this and have forgotten some things.

Thank you Pezcore27 for letting me know the cpu and board were not compatable. I had not even thought to check on that aspect at this point. The motherboard you suggested looks good. My son may be heartbroken though since it does not say TUF.

I like the ssd Neal0790 suggested. ssd is all new for me so I will go with your suggestion.

I have been out of the loop as far as compters goes for a long time. I was thinking with the i7 I would not need to do any upgrades for a ew years if the parts last that long. Trying to do some future proofing so to speak.

If you think an i3 or i5 build would be good enough then let me know. Willing to take any help and suggestions I can get.

 

[Pezcore27]

Honestly you could get away with the 2500k and the board reccommended. The 2500k is the standard for gaming atm and can very easily be overclocked in the bios with virtually one click with that board. So it will provide you with some good future proofing and can extend its life later on without having to upgrade.

Depending on the budget you are wanting to spend you can either be frugal or go nuts, just depends on how much you want to spend.

( but from the looks of how overkill you originally wanted to go, im guessing go nuts )

 

[Lystell]

I don't truly care about the price would like to keep it down if possible but not a biggie if it is not.
My son wanted the tuf motherboard I guess he watched the video on newegg for it. Got to love those boys and their expensive toys.

I like the other board suggested no fans passive cooling less noise, Less power consumption and heat would also be appretiated.

Can get a bundle deal on the motherboard with windows 7 nice combo. Going to look at the 2500 now.

any thoughts on the graphics card? nvidea or ati. 1gb or 2gb?

 

[neal0790]

I would recommend getting the i5k over the i7k. It would save you 100 bucks and it can be used for a better graphics card, psu or motherboard.

I personally prefer the nvidea cards over the ati since i have read alot more horror stories about ati with there driver issues and overall i think nvidea are more popular. Depending on what kind of games you depends on your graphics card. You can get away with a 560 unless your really playing graphically intense games like battlefield 3. The 560 will give you great performance overall on most games you throw at it. But if your willing to spend a little more the 570 is a better deal for the money. Evga is a popular brand for graphics cards and have a great warrenty. Plus you get access to there step up program so if in 90 days you want a card better you just pay the difference.

1gb should be fine for a one screen display. You need to get a high gb if your trying to use a few screens to play your games or using a really high resolution.

 

[Lystell]

Here is what I have now.
case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147158

motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131790
Thank you Pezcore27

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139011

memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.826275

ssd: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820148448

video card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121432

windows 7 home

went with an Asus video card same manufacturer as the motherboard. Found a combo on the memory with the power supply. Still may get a second card and sli just so I can say I did it. skyrim is one of the games the kids play, Don't know about BF3 it is possible. I played BF1942 and loved it. Maybe I will give the new BF a try one day....

 

[neal0790]

Skyrim isnt really gpu intense. You will be able to set everything to max with the 570. Battlefield 3 you wont get ultra but you will get high at a steady frame rate. It really doesnt matter on matching brands with motherboards.

I have the same motherboard as you and have a evga gtx 580 superclocked and had no problems at all. I only recommend evga because there a good brand and there known for there customer service. So if anything happens to the card your taken care of.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130593
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595

10 bucks cheaper or if you want to spend 10 bucks more you can get there superclocked card.

You power supply is good but you can save 40 bucks by getting this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130595

The only difference is its not modular and its bronze. Silver isnt really a neccesity because honestly your buying a high quality brand of a psu already so you shouldnt have much to worry about. Also corsair power supplys are half ass modular so its really not worth the extra money. It would be if it were fully modular but all they do is take off 4 cables out of the like 10 they come with. I have the PSU above and i used every wire but 2. Aslong as you got a case that has some cable management involved you will be fine. If not its only 2 extra wires to hide which can be easily done.

Your also going to need a cpu cooler for you cpu if you ever plan to overclock it to replace the stock one. The best one out right now is the hyper 212 plus, Its only 30 bucks but your going to need it. So i would add it to the list.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Lastly is the RAM. You wont be able to use the vengence ram with the hyper 212. The ram is too tall and it doesnt fit and you dont want it messing with the fan. Also 16gb is really overkill. Most games only require 4gb, and usually people get 8gb unless there doing 3d graphic design or really intense programs. Heres some ram i would recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173

Not the same brand but kingston is also very reliable. Plus it matches the motherboard blue perfectly. Looks real nice.

 

[Lystell]

Neil 0790 your link to the other power supply went to a graphics card. I am assuming you mean this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

Would this have enough power if I sli 2 of these cards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130593

I know 3d requires a special monitor/tv, but would I also need 2 graphic cards? I ask because there are so many new movies that are being done in 3d.

I was already thinking about a cpu cooler as the stock cooler does not look to reliable in the photos. Did not think about the size of the ram being to tall for a cooler though. I only picked that ram because it was a bundle deal on newegg, trying to tweak the best price for the product.

As I said before I am in no rush to get parts and whip this thing together. I would rather take the time to get some advice from people that know a considerable amount more than me on all of this. So keep the advice coming, Lord knows I need all te help I can get.

 

[neal0790]

Neil 0790 your link to the other power supply went to a graphics card. I am assuming you mean this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139022

Yeah sry thats the one i meant.

Would this have enough power if I sli 2 of these cards.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130593

Yeah 850 watts is enough to sli 2 gtx 570's

I know 3d requires a special monitor/tv, but would I also need 2 graphic cards? I ask because there are so many new movies that are being done in 3d.

the gtx 570 is 3d enabled so you wont have any problems with that card if you end up getting a 3d TV/monitor

I was already thinking about a cpu cooler as the stock cooler does not look to reliable in the photos. Did not think about the size of the ram being to tall for a cooler though. I only picked that ram because it was a bundle deal on newegg, trying to tweak the best price for the product.

Corsair vengeance unfortunately will not work with a cpu cooler fan. The heatsinks are to tall and hit the fan. The ram i recommended before will work. I know you have a bundle but you only save 10 bucks.

As I said before I am in no rush to get parts and whip this thing together. I would rather take the time to get some advice from people that know a considerable amount more than me on all of this. So keep the advice coming, Lord knows I need all te help I can get.