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What does 64x4 bits mean and how does it differ from 256x1 bits?

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December 11, 2011 3:26:10 AM

Just trying to learn as much as possible.

Would it also generally be superior to 128 bit or 192 bit cards?

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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 3:54:45 AM

Explain where you see this it sounds like memory to me but please elaberate... With ram this just states how many ram modules you have it it is 64x4 it has 4 64 meg modules or a 256 meg stick of ram... and this first number will not really tell you if the ram is better just the higher it is the higher density of the chips allowing for more ram to be on one stick.

a c 326 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 4:21:11 AM

Bit is just one part of the equation. 265bit can be worse than 128bit, it can be better, there's no way to know without taking into account the rest of the specs.

Truth be told, spec sheets are pretty useless when shopping for a card. You want to look at benchmarks to know how they actually perform vs the competition.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 4:43:15 AM

64X4 means that you have 64 addresses, each with 4 bits.

256X1 means that you have 256 addresses, each with one bit.

Both have the same amount of memory, just organised differently. 64X4 is a little simpler and more space efficient because you only need 7 address lines instead of 8.

But you are mixing apples and oranges because that is not how memory on video cards is organized. When you are talking about "bits" on a video card, you are talking about the size of the word - commonly 128, 192, or 256 bits wide.

Up to a point, the more bits, the better. A few cards have 320 bit data busses. This is the same as the number of "seats on the bus" to the GPU on the card.

The problem is that the more bits, the more complexity and the more area all these lines take up on the printed circuit board. So it is one of the many tradeoffs involved in designing and manufacturing a video card.


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a c 133 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 4:54:49 AM

It all depends on the context. In the context of capacity, the first number is the size of each chip (typically measured in megabits or megabytes) and the second number is the number of chips in the array. In the context of transmission, the first number is the size of the channel in bits, x86 processors have a native memory channel width of 64 bits. The second number is the number of channels, what this is relative to could vary. It could be the number of channels per controller, total number of channels per processor, etc...

All in all, 64x4 vs 128x2 vs 256x1 is entirely meaningless without context. In the context of transmission 64x4 is preferable because data can be interleaved so that individual bytes are read faster, yet the total transmission capacity remains unchanged. Lets say that we have a controller which transfers 1 bit per clock cycle at a clock rate of 1mhz. We take 8 of these controllers and put them in an array so that we have a channel width of 8 bits operating at a 1 million transfers per channel bit per second. The total capacity is now 8megabits per second, or 1 megabyte per second. Now we can examine two different methods of how we transfer data. We can transfer data on each bit of the link serially such that we read the first bit of byte one from channel bit one on clock cycle one and the first bit of byte two from channel bit two on clock cycle one, etc... until we get bit one of byte eight from channel bit eight on clock one. We then repeat the process until we have all eight bits of all 8 bytes; in total this process takes eight clock cycles and at an operating frequency of 1Mhz this means that we had to wait eight microseconds before our transfer was completed and then all eight bytes were received simultaneously.

This is functionally similar to how a lineup works. If a family of 8 all wait in the same lineup, they have to wait until the first person gets served, and then those people are all stuck waiting until the last person is finished being served as well.

Another way of transmitting data involves interleaving. Interleaving is the process of transposing our data so that instead of sending it serially on the same link like we did before, we send it serially on individual links. So rather than getting bit one of byte one from link one and bit one of byte two from link two, we get bit one of byte one from link one and bit two of byte one from link two, and so on. This means that we can get our first byte after only one microsecond, and another byte one microsecond later. So rather than having our device sit idle and wait for 8 microseconds in order to get a whole bunch of data at once it waits for only one microsecond and can start working immediately.

This is the method used most commonly now and when you see PCI-E x1/4/8/16 this is referring to the interleaved channel width. Each PCI-E link is a serial connection, but the data can be interleaved across multiple serial connections in order to form what is functionally a parallel connection. The same deal occurs with memory channels. Each memory channel is 64 bits wide and reads from 8 bit registers such that each channel returns 8 bytes. When a computer has multiple memory channels, the memory controller will do its best to ensure that memory is distributed across all those available. So rather than having to wait 2 cycles to obtain 128 bits of data from a single channel, it will be able to obtain 128 bits from 64x2 channels in a single cycle.

Hope this helped a bit.
December 11, 2011 2:50:23 PM

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December 11, 2011 2:50:59 PM

Thank you all :) 

It turned out to be much more technical than I thought, but now I am smarter because of it. Thank you.