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Graphic card for 1280x1024 resolution !! lil help plz

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December 11, 2011 6:23:55 AM

Guyz i have a 19 inch philips monitor @ 1280x1024 resolution. currently i am running the inno3d 9500gt and im upgrading my system. i will get a i5 2500k sandy bridge with the P67 Extreme4 , 4 gb ddr3 ram and a antec earthwatts 500w psu however i still cant decide upon the graphic card. for my resolution im thinking of buying the 6790 now and later crossfire it if i need to but i am still unsure whether the 6790 is the right choice. what would you uyz suggest. anything upto $255.i want to play all sorts of games at maxed settings. skyrim,mw3,bf3,far cry 3 etc etc
a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 6:41:02 AM

Yes for that resolution 6790 or 6770. 6790 Is fine.

If you have $255, You can get 6950 or 560 Ti. But it would be too much for that resolution.
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December 11, 2011 6:42:35 AM

spitfire99 said:
Guyz i have a 19 inch philips monitor @ 1280x1024 resolution. currently i am running the inno3d 9500gt and im upgrading my system. i will get a i5 2500k sandy bridge with the P67 Extreme4 , 4 gb ddr3 ram and a antec earthwatts 500w psu however i still cant decide upon the graphic card. for my resolution im thinking of buying the 6790 now and later crossfire it if i need to but i am still unsure whether the 6790 is the right choice. what would you uyz suggest. anything upto $255.i want to play all sorts of games at maxed settings. skyrim,mw3,bf3,far cry 3 etc etc




Now the question is are you talking about turning AA on as well? Cause if you are thinking that then the 6790 will not cut the mustard. Without AA turned on it should do okay simply cause of the low resolution you are running at.
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a c 80 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 7:04:38 AM

at $255, nvidia gtx 560 or 560 ti. to take more advantage of your gfx card's power get a higher res. diaplay too.
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a c 80 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 7:11:43 AM

from amd's gfx cards -
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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 7:13:32 AM

de5_roy, He hasn't a good monitor.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 7:18:35 AM

Hi, you should consider upgrading your monitor because a HD 6790 is overkill at that resolution. With a 6 series Radeon you should be gaming at 1920X1080. I bet that 9500gt owns 1280X1024. My daughter has a "Tablet" with that resolution.
Consider this XFX HD-679X-ZDFC Radeon HD 6790 $127.55 after shipping and minus $20.00 rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Acer 23" HDMI LED-Backlight LCD monitor $160.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So for $37.00 more you can get the 6 series Radeon card and a Acer LED 1920X1080 monitor. But keep an eye out this time of year there are bargains to be had.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 9:02:48 AM

Hey even if you don't upgrade your monitor, go for a GTX 560 and above (or AMD equivalent) , because that would let you max out the graphics without a compromise on performance. I mean, why wouldn't you want to play BF3 with ultra settings and get ~60 fps?

Plus you get future proofing too, because if any demanding game is released, or even if you get a bigger monitor in future, this way you'll be prepared for that too. You have the budget for it too, so why not.

I have a 1024x768 monitor, planning a GTX 560 in Feb, because i want it to push 85 fps (have a CRT) with everything maxed out.

p.s. I have a 9600GT so i know what kind of FPS you're getting.

edit: see de5_roy's recommendations.

edit 2: more cards you may like:

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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 9:07:49 AM

No need to go on really high fps. As long as It can be played (like around 50fps) It is fine.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 9:14:59 AM

Its a waste of precious resources to drive a ferrari sports car to drive inside the city.
Either buy a race track or hire one.

Get a monitor, even a 100$ 1600x900 screen would do. Then go for a 6850 or something similar.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 9:20:00 AM

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No need to go on really high fps. As long as It can be played (like around 50fps) It is fine.

60+ is ideal (rather, i find matching the monitor's refresh rates to be the smoothest).
Best for an FPS especially. Plus since he can afford it, so why not?

And another thing. You're looking at today's games only.

Best idea is too look at the recent tom's reviews on BF3, Skyrim, etc if you want a decent idea of what to get.

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Its a waste of precious resources to drive a ferrari sports car to drive inside the city.

Ah well. I've said all that i had to.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 11:19:11 AM

perfectblue said:
Its a waste of precious resources to drive a ferrari sports car to drive inside the city.
Either buy a race track or hire one.

Get a monitor, even a 100$ 1600x900 screen would do. Then go for a 6850 or something similar.

+1

It's like having Corsair TX650 on A system that has Intel Atom in it.
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a c 80 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 11:42:58 AM

refillable said:
de5_roy, He hasn't a good monitor.

i noticed that. afaik some if not a lot of games can properly use a high end card at that resolution. most games will be cpu dependent but if one can successfully shift the load to the gfx card by turning up aa or other visual effects, the gfx card will come in handy. besides, if he upgrades to a higher resolution display (i stated that in my first post) he'll be able to use the gfx card even better. his budget is also a factor - what if he can afford either a display or a gfx card. imo the gfx card, as long as the psu allows, takes priority in gaming.
@spitfire99: look for good holiday deals so that you can get cards at lower prices.
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 11:47:34 AM

de5_Roy said:
i noticed that. afaik some if not a lot of games can properly use a high end card at that resolution. most games will be cpu dependent but if one can successfully shift the load to the gfx card by turning up aa or other visual effects, the gfx card will come in handy. besides, if he upgrades to a higher resolution display (i stated that in my first post) he'll be able to use the gfx card even better. his budget is also a factor - what if he can afford either a display or a gfx card. imo the gfx card, as long as the psu allows, takes priority in gaming.
@spitfire99: look for good holiday deals so that you can get cards at lower prices.


Exactly. Plus since he's going to use a 2500k, the CPU bottleneck is pretty low as it is.
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a c 86 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 12:09:20 PM

I'm currently running overclocked 5770 at the same resolution. Most games work fine, but cant really use much AA or AF if other settings are maxed. In skyrim everything is on ultra but only 2x AA/AF, gpu is maxed almost constantly with fps between 40 and 60(mainly indoors & capped). With i5 750 @3,8GHz.
And as we know 5770 is the same as 6770, so based on my experience I would go a bit higher. Like HD6850 or 6870.
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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 12:45:59 PM

de5_Roy said:
i noticed that. afaik some if not a lot of games can properly use a high end card at that resolution. most games will be cpu dependent but if one can successfully shift the load to the gfx card by turning up aa or other visual effects, the gfx card will come in handy. besides, if he upgrades to a higher resolution display (i stated that in my first post) he'll be able to use the gfx card even better. his budget is also a factor - what if he can afford either a display or a gfx card. imo the gfx card, as long as the psu allows, takes priority in gaming.
@spitfire99: look for good holiday deals so that you can get cards at lower prices.


If you get 60fps in the resolution(1280x1024), and 100fps in 560Ti, It would be fine for me to get 60fps and no need of high-end GPU.

Then at 1080p, I will get 20fps with 6790 and 60fps with 560Ti, this is where you can see the difference.

So if you don't decide to get a new monitor, I don't think 560Ti is a good option. Because it wastes money.
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December 11, 2011 1:57:57 PM

The reason i want a HD 6790 is to future proof my system and to run current and future games at full settings. I don't really want to be getting another GPU for at least 1.5 years and if i need one i can just use crossfire and hookup another 6790. And i also dont want a new monitor. I just need a good GPU for my computer. Somone here was saying he can run Skyrim on Ultra with a 9600GT. Hell i can only run it at the lowest possible settings. And that leads me to me next question : If you have a GPU much higher then needed how does that affect performance ?
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a c 175 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 3:07:51 PM

spitfire99 said:
And that leads me to me next question : If you have a GPU much higher then needed how does that affect performance ?


It will boost performance that you don't need of. For example, like 500fps like.
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a c 232 U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 3:40:42 PM

If ya getting a single GFX slot MoBo or are convinced ya will never use a 2nd GFX card, the factory OC'd 6950 - Twin Frozr (484 fps in Guru3D game test suite) or 560 Ti (495 fps) are well matched. In SLI however, the 900 Mhz 560 Ti has the advantage of about 103 fps (862 - 759) over the Twin Frozr 6950. BTW, the 6970 in CF manages just a bit less at 825 fps.

At your budget, I'd suggest tha getting the 560 Ti would offer the most number of options on the upgrade path.....a new 1920 x 1200 monitor and 2nd GFX card later on will give ya 40% more fps than a single 580 GTX.

If you are going to keep your existing monitor, any of those cards is complete waste of money. A single $75 5670 would be way way more than enough at your resolution....it's plenty for 1650 x 1050
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a b U Graphics card
December 11, 2011 4:09:07 PM

ok. time for the long answer.

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I bet that 9500gt owns 1280X1024. My daughter has a "Tablet" with that resolution.

Do NOT compare a tablet graphics with PC graphics. That's just wrong. And no, even a 9600GT can't "own" that resolution.

refillable said:
If you get 60fps in the resolution(1280x1024), and 100fps in 560Ti, It would be fine for me to get 60fps and no need of high-end GPU.

Then at 1080p, I will get 20fps with 6790 and 60fps with 560Ti, this is where you can see the difference.

So if you don't decide to get a new monitor, I don't think 560Ti is a good option. Because it wastes money.

I agree, if you're getting 60fps then cool. But what and how are you getting that 60fps? 60 fps on Halo CE is not equal to 60 fps in BF3. Unless you're going to use the lowest settings (maybe not even then).
You also have to consider the maximum, minimum and average FPS. Getting 20fps min and 120 fps max doesn't make a great gaming experience. A 560 Ti might be overkill, but only for now. The 560/6870 are definitely not.

refillable said:
It will boost performance that you don't need of. For example, like 500fps like.

you can't get that fps. you'll be capped at 200. :p 

spitfire99 said:
The reason i want a HD 6790 is to future proof my system and to run current and future games at full settings. I don't really want to be getting another GPU for at least 1.5 years and if i need one i can just use crossfire and hookup another 6790. And i also dont want a new monitor. I just need a good GPU for my computer. Somone here was saying he can run Skyrim on Ultra with a 9600GT. Hell i can only run it at the lowest possible settings. And that leads me to me next question : If you have a GPU much higher then needed how does that affect performance ?

  • Hmmm...i overlooked that mention of CF in your original post. If you plan to CF, fine, go for it. BUT, have realistic expectations, only one of them's not going to do BF3 in ultra with 60 fps. Two of them most definitely will.
  • No one said anything like that, boy! I said i have a 9600GT, so i have an idea of the fps you're getting with a 9500GT. The dude who can play skyrim in ultra says:
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    I'm currently running overclocked 5770 at the same resolution. Most games work fine, but cant really use much AA or AF if other settings are maxed. In skyrim everything is on ultra but only 2x AA/AF, gpu is maxed almost constantly with fps between 40 and 60(mainly indoors & capped). With i5 750 @3,8GHz.
    And as we know 5770 is the same as 6770, so based on my experience I would go a bit higher. Like HD6850 or 6870.

  • See it affects performance like this: You can make the scene more beautiful without making the screen laggy (like what must be happening to you while playing skyrim on high/medium). A better card can process the graphics code better and more efficiently, and draw the screen quicker. which is how you get more "frames per second".

    Bro you got to look at benchmarks if you want comparisons. The best thing i can ask you to do is READ:
    Battlefield 3 Performance: 30+ Graphics Cards, Benchmarked
    Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: PC Performance, Benchmarked
    Nvidia's Battlefield 3 Tweak Guide
    Nvidia's The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Tweak Guide
    Crysis 2 Goes Direct X 11: The Ultra Upgrade, Benchmarked
    Star Wars: The Old Republic: PC Performance, Benchmarked

    The nvidia ones may be the most useful because they do three things:
    1. They use a GTX 560
    2. They include your resolution
    3. They show you how performance varies with the settings you apply

    They apply to both nvidia and AMD cards.

    Cheers
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    a c 175 U Graphics card
    December 11, 2011 4:09:40 PM

    Actually I think it is time for you to upgrade the Monitor to a 1080p compatible if you want to get 560Ti or 6950. If you don't have that much money then get yourself a 6790.
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    a b U Graphics card
    December 11, 2011 4:16:12 PM

    JackNaylorPE said:
    If ya getting a single GFX slot MoBo or are convinced ya will never use a 2nd GFX card, the factory OC'd 6950 - Twin Frozr (484 fps in Guru3D game test suite) or 560 Ti (495 fps) are well matched. In SLI however, the 900 Mhz 560 Ti has the advantage of about 103 fps (862 - 759) over the Twin Frozr 6950. BTW, the 6970 in CF manages just a bit less at 825 fps.

    At your budget, I'd suggest tha getting the 560 Ti would offer the most number of options on the upgrade path.....a new 1920 x 1200 monitor and 2nd GFX card later on will give ya 40% more fps than a single 580 GTX.

    If you are going to keep your existing monitor, any of those cards is complete waste of money. A single $75 5670 would be way way more than enough at your resolution....it's plenty for 1650 x 1050


    That fps rating must be a sum of the individual scores, if i'm not wrong?

    I dunno, disagree with the 5670 bit, agree more with your first and second paragraphs. Except the factory OC bit. Not comfortable with factory OCs if they command a price premium, usually a self OC does the trick. Especially when a 560 Ti/6950 is a bit overkill anyway.
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    a c 175 U Graphics card
    December 11, 2011 4:24:04 PM

    ojas said:

    I agree, if you're getting 60fps then cool. But what and how are you getting that 60fps? 60 fps on Halo CE is not equal to 60 fps in BF3. Unless you're going to use the lowest settings (maybe not even then).
    You also have to consider the maximum, minimum and average FPS. Getting 20fps min and 120 fps max doesn't make a great gaming experience. A 560 Ti might be overkill, but only for now. The 560/6870 are definitely not.

    60 fps is not Halo CE. It is actually Metro 2033. AFAIK it is a high resource demanding game like BF3, but slightly less. See this picture.

    You can see that it performs 60 FPS Average. So BF3 will perform at maybe 50fps.

    And the min fps is just in really laggy situation I think. It would be rare.
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    a b U Graphics card
    December 11, 2011 4:37:06 PM

    ^*sigh*

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    i want to play all sorts of games at maxed settings. skyrim,mw3,bf3,far cry 3 etc etc

    "medium detail, no Anti-aliasing, 4x anisotropic texture filtering, physx disabled" is not really maxed.

    refillable, I think you should read Nvidia's guide too. It's actually good, trust me.
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    a b U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 3:25:03 AM

    ^:D 
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