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Q6700 for less than 100 bucks. Should I go for it?

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May 26, 2012 8:19:06 PM

For some time now, I have been thinking to upgrade my E5200 CPU and 8800GT video card to be able to play Battlefield 3 at reasonable settings and been searching for a good quad core CPU at a decent price. I was originally going for a Q9550 I found for 180ish dollars as new but the guy who was selling it decided to use it himself so now I am back to searching another one and just recently discovered an ad for a used Q6700. Seller claims he never overclocked it, used it around 30 degrees with a high end cooler and decided to sell it since he doesn't need it anymore and since he haven't used it for a year now. My question is; should I go for it? I have no clue about the steppings of Q6700s or their OC capabilities and I do want to OC it to reasonable levels but I am afraid that it might not reach the same speeds as a Q6600. Also, are there any other differences between Q6700 and Q6600 like their caches? Also how many different steppings does Q6700 have? Some people claim 2, others say it just has G0. Thanks a lot for the answers in advance...

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May 26, 2012 8:34:18 PM

The Q6600 and Q6700 are the same chip, just that the Q6700s are actually a little bit better. They have a higher factory clock via the multiplier as they were guaranteed to work at this speed, while as the Q6600 might not have. For the price difference I say go ahead and get the Q6700 over the Q9550. I had a Q9550 and while it will OC quite a bit higher and runs a bit cooler than the Q6700, the Q6700 is still a very fast chip. When playing BF3 my 5850 was my "bottleneck" even at stock clocks. You will here many talks of "bottle necking" by people quick to use the word without understanding its meaning, but with just a moderate OC a Q6700 will not pose much of a barrier for any single GPU on the market. As far as steppings and revisions Intel only lists two: http://ark.intel.com/products/30790/Intel-Core2-Quad-Pr... It looks as if one was OEM only.
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May 26, 2012 8:36:44 PM

Today, I don't think I would invest much in a cpu series that is several generations old.
The Intel sandy bridge and ivy bridge chips are so much better.
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May 26, 2012 8:44:23 PM

geofelt said:
Today, I don't think I would invest much in a cpu series that is several generations old.
The Intel sandy bridge and ivy bridge chips are so much better.



If you have the money... yes. But sadly, I barely have the money to get a CPU + video card for the total of 300 bucks when I most likely wont be able to get a decent motherboard/CPU/DDR3 Ram combo for the same price without buying a new video card if I dared switching to i series processors. So for me, that is currently a no go. For another year at least and it should be fine if the Q6700 and an HD5870 lets me play Battlefield 3 around high settings at least...
May 26, 2012 8:49:06 PM

Blacktric said:
If you have the money... yes. But sadly, I barely have the money to get a CPU + video card for the total of 300 bucks when I most likely wont be able to get a decent motherboard/CPU/DDR3 Ram combo if I dared switching to i series processors. So for me, that is currently a no go. For another year at least and it should be fine if Q6700 and an HD5870 lets me play Battlefield 3 around high settings at least...


With a 5870 & a Q6700 you will be able to play BF3 on high just fine at 1080P, as stated I could do so with a 5850 and never had any issues playing. The only time where I would encounter choppiness would be bumping up the AA or textures to Ultra in SP (used it as a more consistent way to measure FPS).
May 26, 2012 8:50:52 PM

mfleming001 said:
With a 5870 & a Q6700 you will be able to play BF3 on high just fine at 1080P, as stated I could do so with a 5850 and never had any issues playing. The only time where I would encounter choppiness would be bumping up the AA or textures to Ultra in SP (used it as a more consistent way to measure FPS).


Thanks a lot for the answers. Also a side note, I have a 22 inch display with 1680x1050 native resolution, so I think playing it at high won't be a problem at all which is great.
May 26, 2012 9:09:59 PM

digdog said:
i don't think that chip is worth more than $40 ...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Duo-E6700-2-66-GHz...


First of all, that is an E6700, not Q6700. And second, since it is an eBay ad with open bidding, that price will reach around 80-100 bucks before it ends. Just a little tip; never buy any computer parts from eBay except for small scale stuff like keyboards and cables and maybe simple coolers. Because most of the time, sellers are extremely greedy and put overpriced tags to the parts they sell. Also another side note; I live in Turkey and am using a trusty local forum I have been using for 5 years and Q6600 prices are around 90-130 dollars depending on how greedy the sellers are. That is why I opened this thread. To see if Q6700 is actually equally good as a Q6600 if not better in terms of overclocking and cache size.
May 26, 2012 9:10:47 PM

good god Tom's hardware please add the EDIT THIS POST to the forums, it's ridiculous.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asrock-865PE-Mobo-w-Intel-Core2...
$80, mobo AND a q6700, 2 gigs of ram, and a cooler. take chip, sell rest for $20 each.

anyway, the whole "upgrade to a conroe" is a terrible idea, there are low-end modern chips which outperform them by far.

ofc you know where i am going with this ... yes ... 3570k

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2248240
have a laugh.

$180 for 3570k, get $50 off any mobo, and 4 gigs of ddr3 1333 can be had for $17. no reaso to not upgrade, it's so damn cheap.
May 26, 2012 9:12:43 PM

digdog said:
good god Tom's hardware please add the EDIT THIS POST to the forums, it's ridiculous.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asrock-865PE-Mobo-w-Intel-Core2...
$80, mobo AND a q6700, 2 gigs of ram, and a cooler. take chip, sell rest for $20 each.

anyway, the whole "upgrade to a conroe" is a terrible idea, there are low-end modern chips which outperform them by far.

ofc you know where i am going with this ... yes ... 3570k

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2248240
have a laugh.

$180 for 3570k, get $50 off any mobo, and 4 gigs of ddr3 1333 can be had for $17. no reaso to not upgrade, it's so damn cheap.


As soon as they open a MicroCenter in Turkey............................ :non: 
May 26, 2012 9:12:54 PM

digdog said:
good god Tom's hardware please add the EDIT THIS POST to the forums, it's ridiculous.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Asrock-865PE-Mobo-w-Intel-Core2...
$80, mobo AND a q6700, 2 gigs of ram, and a cooler. take chip, sell rest for $20 each.

anyway, the whole "upgrade to a conroe" is a terrible idea, there are low-end modern chips which outperform them by far.

ofc you know where i am going with this ... yes ... 3570k

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2248240
have a laugh.

$180 for 3570k, get $50 off any mobo, and 4 gigs of ddr3 1333 can be had for $17. no reaso to not upgrade, it's so damn cheap.


Again, that is an E6700 and I live in Turkey. We do not have mail in rebates and cheap prices and other cool stuff most of you guys have. So I have to make do with what I can buy this year.
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May 26, 2012 9:18:27 PM

you never stated what motherboard you have.
a p45 chipset i would say go for it w/o hesitation; easy overclock!
May 26, 2012 9:19:24 PM

Anonymous said:
you never stated what motherboard you have.
a p45 chipset i would say go for it w/o hesitation; easy overclock!



I have a Gigabyte X48-DS5 so that should be more than enough I guess?
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May 26, 2012 9:20:23 PM

even better :) 

x16,x16 support for xfire.
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May 26, 2012 9:34:29 PM

personally i would get it. but i love 'old tech' aka socket 775.

i would consider it an investment for later when you look to sell that box to have some coin to upgrade your platform. you could sell a quad faster and for more than a dual core rig.

but thats just me. i do hope the seller is reputable?
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May 26, 2012 9:47:44 PM

digdog said:
$180 for 3570k, get $50 off any mobo, and 4 gigs of ddr3 1333 can be had for $17. no reaso to not upgrade, it's so damn cheap.

It may be "cheap" but still 3-4X as expensive as the simple $100 CPU swap OP was interested in.

Although i5-3xxx would be a significant upgrade for peak performance over Q6600 on multi-threaded benchmark, i5-3570 is only 30-50% faster in current games than Q6600 so not really worth spending 200-300% more for without other motives for someone attempting to minimize costs.

That said, if I could only spare $100 to upgrade a CPU, I would opt for putting that $100 in a savings account until I can afford a platform swap - I personally do not like the idea of spending money on a dead-end platform and ending up with loose parts in the process.
May 26, 2012 11:36:42 PM

Just wanted to post a quick result with my crossfired 5850s, demonstrating that dual GPU users do benefit from moving on from socket 775.

I downclocked the 3570k to match my old Q6600 @ 3.5.

Used Far Cry 2 as the benchmark with everything maxed out:

Q6600 @ 3.5

Average Framerate: 75.30
Max. Framerate: 124.75
Min. Framerate: 50.14

i5 3570k turbo reduced to 3.5

Average Framerate: 125.10
Max. Framerate: 182.90
Min. Framerate: 88.21

Out of interest, even a downclocked 3570k pushes these cards as hard as they can go, moving it to 4.0 makes no difference to frame rates showing that they are GPU limited now.

As a comparison, the downclocked 3570k whips a Q6600 at stock badly:

Q6600 @ 2.4 (stock)

Average Framerate: 40.95
Max. Framerate: 69.31
Min. Framerate: 29.02

This might be of interest to those still using a Q6600 and considering crossfiring even an fairly old card like the 5850.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18401...

what? even s SB celeron would outperform a Q6700 even assuming games that use 4 cores. in games using multiple cores it barely outperforms the E6600 when both overclocked.

the GPU boost in games going from a 5200 to a q6700 will be negligible, or truly minor at best.

if you really are broke and need an upgrade here is how with $160 (and shipping)



Pareema 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model MD313C81609L1
Item #: N82E16820576002
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$18.99


Intel Celeron G530 Sandy Bridge 2.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80623G530
Item #: N82E16819116409
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$49.99


BIOSTAR TZ77B LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813138352
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty
1 year: $9.99 INCLUDED
-$20.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$109.99
$89.99
Subtotal: $158.97
Calculate Shipping
Zip Code Update Method
FREE 2-Day Shipping learn more

Shipping: $0.00



Grand Total:* $158.9

and if you are so broke you can only spend $100, and the only thing you can buy is a Q6700 .. why do you even ask.
May 26, 2012 11:42:34 PM

Anonymous said:
personally i would get it. but i love 'old tech' aka socket 775.

i would consider it an investment for later when you look to sell that box to have some coin to upgrade your platform. you could sell a quad faster and for more than a dual core rig.

but thats just me. i do hope the seller is reputable?



Honestly? He is a member since 2006, which is longer than I have been a member, but only has like 50 messages total and never sold anything on the forum. But I do have to trust the guy... I mean finding a Q6700 for this price in the country I live in is a miracle. They are still selling Q6600s for 130 dollars without its original box and stock fan and the people who sell cheaper usually bundle it with a cheap motherboard that costs about 60 dollars which I have no interest in buying...
May 26, 2012 11:54:57 PM

digdog said:
Just wanted to post a quick result with my crossfired 5850s, demonstrating that dual GPU users do benefit from moving on from socket 775.

I downclocked the 3570k to match my old Q6600 @ 3.5.

Used Far Cry 2 as the benchmark with everything maxed out:

Q6600 @ 3.5

Average Framerate: 75.30
Max. Framerate: 124.75
Min. Framerate: 50.14

i5 3570k turbo reduced to 3.5

Average Framerate: 125.10
Max. Framerate: 182.90
Min. Framerate: 88.21

Out of interest, even a downclocked 3570k pushes these cards as hard as they can go, moving it to 4.0 makes no difference to frame rates showing that they are GPU limited now.

As a comparison, the downclocked 3570k whips a Q6600 at stock badly:

Q6600 @ 2.4 (stock)

Average Framerate: 40.95
Max. Framerate: 69.31
Min. Framerate: 29.02

This might be of interest to those still using a Q6600 and considering crossfiring even an fairly old card like the 5850.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18401...

what? even s SB celeron would outperform a Q6700 even assuming games that use 4 cores. in games using multiple cores it barely outperforms the E6600 when both overclocked.

the GPU boost in games going from a 5200 to a q6700 will be negligible, or truly minor at best.

if you really are broke and need an upgrade here is how with $160 (and shipping)



Pareema 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model MD313C81609L1
Item #: N82E16820576002
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$18.99


Intel Celeron G530 Sandy Bridge 2.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80623G530
Item #: N82E16819116409
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
$49.99


BIOSTAR TZ77B LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Item #: N82E16813138352
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Protect Your Investment (expand for options)
Service Net Replacement Extended Warranty
1 year: $9.99 INCLUDED
-$20.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate
$109.99
$89.99
Subtotal: $158.97
Calculate Shipping
Zip Code Update Method
FREE 2-Day Shipping learn more

Shipping: $0.00



Grand Total:* $158.9

and if you are so broke you can only spend $100, and the only thing you can buy is a Q6700 .. why do you even ask.



You are still insisting on not getting this aren't you? I do not care about upgrading to Sandy Bridge or any other type of CPU that will force me to get a new motherboard and rams. I already have an X48 motherboard, 8 gigs of high quality DDR2 RAM, etc. Why in the world should I make the switch to Sandy Bridge when I can simply get a Q6700 and an HD5870 for total of 250 bucks and play Battlefield 3 on Ultra? There is absolutely no point. Playing BF3 on Ultra with full AA at 100 FPS won't make me happier or more satisfied. I just want to be able to play it on either High or Ultra settings without suffering from low FPS problems (sub 30) in certain parts. That s it. I don't give a rats ass about getting an i5 or a damn Celeron with some random and low quality rams and motherboard for 160 dollars to get a 50 percent performance boost that I do not care for. Not to mention those are the prices from US or UK or some other country. Also, I never said I am broke. I said I cannot spare more money than 150ish dollars to upgrade the CPU since I will also get an HD5870 and since I also have a PS3 and Xbox 360, so I couldnt care less about playing anything else on the system. When the time is right, I will make the jump to i series just like everyone else. But right now, no way. So please, take your unnecessary ideas and misleading links (repeatedly posting E6700 links? seriously?) and leave. You are not helping at all...

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Blacktric said:
Honestly? He is a member since 2006, which is longer than I have been a member, but only has like 50 messages total and never sold anything on the forum. But I do have to trust the guy... I mean finding a Q6700 for this price in the country I live in is a miracle. They are still selling Q6600s for 130 dollars without its original box and stock fan and the people who sell cheaper usually bundle it with a cheap motherboard that costs about 60 dollars which I have no interest in buying...

well if it is too good to be true . .ok i cannot make a judgement about trusting a seller for you.

i can give you my opinion that i think a Q6700 would give you better performance and will return your money if you decide to sell your set up to get money for a future upgrade. you would be looking at a getting good cooler to overclock it with also.

i hope i helped.
May 26, 2012 11:59:09 PM

Anonymous said:
well if it is too good to be true . .ok i cannot make a judgement about trusting a seller for you.

i can give you my opinion that i think a Q6700 would give you better performance and will return your money if you decide to sell your set up to get money for a future upgrade. you would be looking at a good cooler to overclock it with also.

i hope i helped.



Thanks a lot for all the replies. You really did help.
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