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December 12, 2011 1:36:49 AM

Hi all,

I was checking the EVGA site and I found that there is a new 560 ti (448 cores). My current rig is:

  • i5 2500k OC 4.2 ghz
  • EVGA 560 ti Superclocked
  • ASUS P8P67 REV 3.0 motherboard
  • 4 GB DDR3 1600 Crucial Ballistix

    My question is: Upgrading from EVGA 560 ti to:
  • 560 ti 448 cores
  • OR
  • 570
    worth?


  • Thanks in advance

    RAVS



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    December 12, 2011 1:37:52 AM

    I forgot to mention that I play on 1920x1080
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    a c 1401 U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 1:38:36 AM

    In performance increase it would be hardly worth it rather wait and see what the 6xx series brings when released.
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    December 12, 2011 1:52:55 AM

    ravs316 said:
    Hi all,

    I was checking the EVGA site and I found that there is a new 560 ti (448 cores). My current rig is:

  • i5 2500k OC 4.2 ghz
  • EVGA 560 ti Superclocked
  • ASUS P8P67 REV 3.0 motherboard
  • 4 GB DDR3 1600 Crucial Ballistix

    My question is: Upgrading from EVGA 560 ti to:
  • 560 ti 448 cores
  • OR
  • 570
    worth?


  • Thanks in advance

    RAVS

  • 448 core is a huge waste of money just keep your 560ti and overclock it to the same performance of a 448 core or just do a straight up upgrade to a GTX 570.
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    a c 175 U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 1:56:56 AM

    No need, why? Try seeing this review:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-560-ti-...

    You can see that 560 Ti 448 is 12% Faster than the 560 Ti based on average (this doesn't include minimal, because it is almost the same).
    But notice that 6970 is 22% Faster than the 560 Ti. So if I am you I will not waste money for another GPU but not boosting performance, instead I will get 6970, or wait till the 600 series GPU comes as rolli59 said.
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    December 12, 2011 2:09:24 AM

    If you do get an eVGA 448 core, get the Classified model which is made for overclocking. It can beat 570's and stock 580's if you use it to it's full potential.
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    a c 109 U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 2:11:06 AM

    Just spend that money for another 560ti and get em in sli like i have :) 
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    December 12, 2011 2:26:09 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    If you do get an eVGA 448 core, get the Classified model which is made for overclocking. It can beat 570's and stock 580's if you use it to it's full potential.

    How is a binned GTX 570 chip AKA 448 core going to outperform a GTX 570 and GTX 580 like you say LOL good luck because the GTX 560ti 448 is not a good card at all there is no place for it because it is not as fast as a 570 and it cost the same.
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    December 12, 2011 2:31:41 AM

    The 560ti 448 core was a marketing fail, OC the hell out of your card and wait until the next series, as rolli59 said.
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    December 12, 2011 2:36:28 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    If you do get an eVGA 448 core, get the Classified model which is made for overclocking. It can beat 570's and stock 580's if you use it to it's full potential.

    570 overclocked and Stock 580??????

    Wow... Impressive

    amuffin said:
    Just spend that money for another 560ti and get em in sli like i have :) 


    Unfortunately, this dude cant. He has P8P67 which has one PCIE x16 and another PCIE x4 :D .
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    December 12, 2011 2:39:09 AM

    refillable said:
    570 overclocked and Stock 580??????

    Wow... Impressive

    Its complete and utter BS because all a GTX 560ti 448 is a defective and Binned GTX 570.
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    December 12, 2011 2:40:40 AM

    Headspin_69 said:
    Its complete and utter BS because all a GTX 560ti 448 is a defective and Binned GTX 570.

    I know, I was saying the opposite.

    To the OP: I think 6970 is the best option for you if you want an upgrade.
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    a b U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 2:42:24 AM

    yes upgrade ......and then please ship your old, slow, pathetic 560 ti to me , PM me for my address
    thanks.


    but seriously though, you're using the EVGA step-up program right?
    What is the price difference if you want the newer 560? and the 570?
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    a c 80 U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 3:03:37 AM

    the 560 ti is one of the 'best performance for money' gfx cards out there. imo anyone possessing one shouldn't have to worry about upgrading until q3 next year. this especially true for people who cannot use sli.
    wait for the new 28 nm cards to come out, let the companies work out bugs and driver stuff, meanwhile save up some money, then decide if you still want to 'upgrade'. imo cards higher than 560 ti only offer tangible (may be over 30-50%) performance at multidisplays (3+) and very high resolutions (2560x1600 and higher). for 1080p resolution, a 560ti with 1gb gddr5 vram is good enough.
    no, gtx 560 ti 448 cores is not worth it. stay with your current card.
    happy gaming!
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    a c 197 U Graphics card
    December 12, 2011 3:05:41 AM

    Unless you've got money to burn, it isn't worth it. Wait for the new cards coming out and check the performance difference to see if an upgrade is worth the cost.
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    December 12, 2011 4:51:47 AM

    BlackHawk91 said:
    The 560ti 448 core was a marketing fail, OC the hell out of your card and wait until the next series, as rolli59 said.


    Headspin_69 said:
    Its complete and utter BS because all a GTX 560ti 448 is a defective and Binned GTX 570.


    A marketing fail?... that's why these cards keep running out of stock everywhere they are sold. As far as the chip being a binned 570, what do you think the 570's are??... they're defective binned 580's.

    Here's my Classified's 3dmark11 score. Futuremark doesn't know what the 448 core cards are yet so lists them as "generic vga", and like I said in my post earlier, that because the classified uses the GTX 480's pcb and has a 6 phase power delivery, it was born to overclock and can compete with a stock GTX 580.

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2325780



    Here is a GTX 580's 3dmark11 score: 6779
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1956557
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    December 12, 2011 5:14:12 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    A marketing fail?... that's why these cards keep running out of stock everywhere they are sold. As far as the chip being a binned 570, what do you think the 570's are??... they're defective binned 580's.

    Here's my Classified's 3dmark11 score. Futuremark doesn't know what the 448 core cards are yet so lists them as "generic vga", and like I said in my post earlier, that because the classified uses the GTX 480's pcb and has a 6 phase power delivery, it was born to overclock and can compete with a stock GTX 580.

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2325780

    http://i.imgur.com/74jeM.jpg

    Here is a GTX 580's 3dmark11 score: 6779
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1956557

    GTX 570 does not cost as much as a GTX 580 and synthetic Benchmarks are no good last I checked you cannot play them and I buy my cards to play games not crunch numbers LOL. Furthermore if a GTX 560ti 448 costs as much as a Vanilla GTX 570 and is not as fast as a vanilla GTX 570 stock for stock in my eyes that is a fail marketing and fail card. Lets not get into how the 448 is a limited run production so they will be here for Christmas so Nvidia can make a quick buck off of the Noobs and good luck finding one down the road for SLI.
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    December 12, 2011 5:25:25 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    A marketing fail?... that's why these cards keep running out of stock everywhere they are sold. As far as the chip being a binned 570, what do you think the 570's are??... they're defective binned 580's.

    Here's my Classified's 3dmark11 score. Futuremark doesn't know what the 448 core cards are yet so lists them as "generic vga", and like I said in my post earlier, that because the classified uses the GTX 480's pcb and has a 6 phase power delivery, it was born to overclock and can compete with a stock GTX 580.

    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2325780

    http://i.imgur.com/74jeM.jpg

    Here is a GTX 580's 3dmark11 score: 6779
    http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1956557

    Plus AMD BullDozer Chips have been out of stock since they hit store shelves so your point is lesser inferior hardware sells faster ?
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    December 12, 2011 5:34:01 AM

    unless you are planning on play the latest and most demanding games in resolutions higher than 1920*1080, there is absolutely no reason to be upgrading, an overclocked 560ti handles that just fine.


    And if you are going to buy a new card, at least wait to the HD 7000 series/gtx 600 has been released, and buy one of those...
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    December 12, 2011 5:42:05 AM

    rambostyrer said:
    unless you are planning on play the latest and most demanding games in resolutions higher than 1920*1080, there is absolutely no reason to be upgrading, an overclocked 560ti handles that just fine.


    And if you are going to buy a new card, at least wait to the HD 7000 series/gtx 600 has been released, and buy one of those...

    If you are aspiring to play games @ around 1080p resolution @ maxed setting and witht full AA/AF and want locked 60fps V-Synch performance then you need more than one 560ti. Allot of PC gamers do not accept framerates dropping to 30fps gaming and that is what you will get in the newer more demanding games when played on a single GTX 560ti @ 1080p.
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    December 12, 2011 5:44:55 AM

    Headspin_69 said:
    GTX 570 does not cost as much as a GTX 580 and synthetic Benchmarks are no good last I checked you cannot play them and I buy my cards to play games not crunch numbers LOL

    LOL!

    :sarcastic: 

    Headspin_69 said:
    Furthermore if a GTX 560ti 448 costs as much as a Vanilla GTX 570

    The 448 cards cost $289, where are the $289 dollar GTX 570's at?

    You're still using a GTX 275 and have no idea of what you're talking about anyways. I wouldn't like synthetic benchmarks either if they all looked like slideshows on my computer :lol: 

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    December 12, 2011 5:57:24 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    LOL!

    :sarcastic: 


    The 448 cards cost $289, where are the $289 dollar GTX 570's at?

    You're still using a GTX 275 and have no idea of what you're talking about anyways. I wouldn't like synthetic benchmarks either if they all looked like slideshows on my computer :lol: 

    My old rig with Dual Radeon HD 4890s will put that epic fail 448 to shame LOL and by no means would a 448 hybrid POS card beat a GTX 580 LOL or even come close for that matter you are misinformed. I paid $80 this past summer for my GTX 275 when my Radeon HD 5870 broke and the 275 maxes out the few games I play like MW2 and 3 @ 60fps locked to my monitors refresh rate so why would I spend hundreds of dollars like a noob to max games I don't care to play.
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    December 12, 2011 6:20:02 AM

    You're like 13 or14 and I should be ashamed of myself for going back-and-forth with you.
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    December 12, 2011 6:24:48 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    You're like 13 or14 and I should be ashamed of myself for going back-and-forth with you.

    Your like 20 and should be ashamed that you should have saved your money instead of spend it on an inferior Graphics card that was over hyped and under performed and costs as much as a GTX 570 but performs worse.Plus you troll on people and laugh at them for having an older GPU than you LOL how old are you and that's the best you can come up with.LOL
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    December 12, 2011 6:27:59 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    You're like 13 or14 and I should be ashamed of myself for going back-and-forth with you.

    Show us the gameplay of an overclocked GTX 560ti 448 outperforming a GTX 580 on Youtube then we can believe you that your statements are real but even tho it would be great to pay hundreds less for 580 performance no professional reviewers have confirmed what you claim.
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    December 12, 2011 6:43:43 AM

    Headspin_69 said:
    Show us the gameplay of an overclocked GTX 560ti 448 outperforming a GTX 580 on Youtube then we can believe you that your statements are real but even tho it would be great to pay hundreds less for 580 performance no professional reviewers have confirmed what you claim.

    Instead of making multiple posts one after another, if you have more to say, we have an edit post function here.

    I never said the Ti 448 core out performs a GTX 580 in any of my posts. Learn to read. The 580 will always hold a memory bandwidth superiority over the Ti 448 core no matter how much overclock my card. And in high resolution gaming there will be no comparison. But because the 448 core Classified overclocks so good, it is able to catch a GTX 580 in benchmarks.

    Go ahead and reply back with your "LOL" and "EPIC FAIL" and "NOOB" repeatedly because by using that terminology you are only making yourself look like those very things.
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    December 12, 2011 7:00:26 AM

    GeneticWeapon said:
    Instead of making multiple posts one after another, if you have more to say, we have an edit post function here.

    I never said the Ti 448 core out performs a GTX 580 in any of my posts. Learn to read. The 580 will always hold a memory bandwidth superiority over the Ti 448 core no matter how much overclock my card. And in high resolution gaming there will be no comparison. But because the 448 core Classified overclocks so good, it is able to catch a GTX 580 in benchmarks.

    Go ahead and reply back with your "LOL" and "EPIC FAIL" and "NOOB" repeatedly because by using that terminology you are only making yourself look like those very things.

    On any level a GTX 560ti weather it is a 448 or not will never Compete like you try and claim or even come close to match the performance of a 580 especially since an extremely great Overclock nets maybe an extra 5-8fps in game.If what you are saying is true than a 448 would mitigate the purpose of the GTX 570 and Nvidia would never make such a bad business move.The professional reviewers such as OC3D all agreed that it is the GTX 560ti or GTX 570 and the 448 is a waste because for the same price in Canada at leased you can get the next card up.
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    December 12, 2011 7:05:49 AM

    buy 6950 2GB or GTX 570 OC~
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    December 12, 2011 9:05:46 AM

    No please do not waste your money upgrading to a different GPU at this time. I can't imagine it would be worth your while upgrading in order to get another 10-50 % more performance. It will make almost no difference to your overall gaming experience. Just play on high settings instead of ultra, and wait until the next gen cards come.

    All the big releases of the year are out already (except SWTOR) and there are very few big releases over the next 6 months or so.
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    December 12, 2011 10:37:48 AM

    You are better off keeping the card and saving your money for next years new arrivals , they "should" be pci-e 3.0 and will definately be faster.
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    December 13, 2011 12:04:08 AM

    Best answer selected by ravs316.
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