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February 10, 2012 7:53:51 PM

Hello, looking for help checking compatibility, suggested changes, etc for the following use:

1) AutoCad
2) Sketchup
3) Photoshop/Illustrator/Adobe Premier Elements/movie maker
4) future use: 3d studio max, rhino, etc
5) the usual office productivity software
6) Multiple applications open simultaneously, cutting and pasting.
7) General home office use and basic entertainment such as online streaming, movies.
8) Little to NO gaming use.
9) Internet surfing (of course!), emailing, etc.

I'm a first time builder and so any suggestions will be helpful. My current component specs:

A) Please suggest a good and reasonably priced ATX case with ease of assembly of components.

B) Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 Intel Z68 Motherboard

C) CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 BX80623I72600 Processor

D) GPU: PNY VCQ2000-PB Quadro 2000 Workstation Graphics Card

E) RAM: Corsair CMX16GX3M4A1333C9 XMS3 Desktop Memory Kit - 16 GB (4x4GB)

F) Power: Corsair CP-9020001-NA Enthusiast Series TX550M Modular Power Supply - 550W, 80 Plus Bronze, Single +12V Rail

G) Primary (boot) HD: Transcend TS128GSSD25S-M Solid State Drive - 128GB, 2.5" SATA, MLC

H) Secondary HD: Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gb/s

I) Optical Drive: Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB 24x DVDRW Drive - 24x, SATA, Black, OEM

J) OS: Windows 7 Pro 64 bit

K) I'll also need a wireless adapter to connect to my wifi.

Did I leave anything out?? This is my first time spec-ing out a system and building one so if the selection seems random, please help me refine it!

Thanks.
February 10, 2012 8:13:33 PM

For CPU, you might want to overclock in the future, I suggest i7 2600K. For the PSU, I suggest a higher wattage like 700 watts to 100 watts and for the SSD you might want Samsung 830 series 128 GB MLC SATA III 6Gb/s.
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February 10, 2012 8:18:45 PM

buy parts from newegg they have cheap parts motherboard looks good get a i7 2600k instead of 2600 dont know much about workstation v-cards so cant help ya there get g.skill ram instead of corsair that build needs like 950 watts so get the power supply on the link

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 10, 2012 8:43:08 PM

Hi, you might want to look at a faster SSD like the OCZ Agility 3 AGT3-25SAT3-120G http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Much faster read/write speeds..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... WIFI god reviews high speed.

As for a case I like the Bitfenix Shinobi, but you cannot get it at Newegg.

Have Fun!..

OH and your system only needs 350W according to http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine , so your PSU is fine at 550W
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February 10, 2012 8:44:20 PM

xtremegamer2da-max said:
buy parts from newegg they have cheap parts motherboard looks good get a i7 2600k instead of 2600 dont know much about workstation v-cards so cant help ya there get g.skill ram instead of corsair that build needs like 950 watts so get the power supply on the link

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



What kind of thin air did you make up a 950w power supply being needed for that build??? That card draws 62 watts max. Don't make stuff up, if you don't know then don't post.

Jumtan that build looks quite good to me. What kind of case are you looking for? Traditional style or something with led lit fans? A budget for the case would also help. There are dozens of quality cases out there at every price range from $50-$350.

Here are some good cases at different price points.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...


Edit:

I do agree with the Samsung 830 series being one of the best SSDs on the market right now.
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February 10, 2012 8:45:11 PM

Hey, thanks people! This is really helpful. Please keep comments coming!
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February 10, 2012 8:48:00 PM


I would say a max budget of $130 for a case. I don't need led lights and those kinds of bells and whistles, but being in the design business, I'd appreciate a nice looking box. Doesn't have to be too generic.

Thanks for your comments!

anort3 said:
What kind of thin air did you make up a 950w power supply being needed for that build??? That card draws 62 watts max. Don't make stuff up, if you don't know then don't post.

Jumtan that build looks quite good to me. What kind of case are you looking for? Traditional style or something with led lit fans? A budget for the case would also help. There are dozens of quality cases out there at every price range from $50-$350.

Here are some good cases at different price points.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...


Edit:

I do agree with the Samsung 830 series being one of the best SSDs on the market right now.

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February 10, 2012 8:48:01 PM

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What kind of thin air did you make up a 950w power supply being needed for that build??? That card draws 62 watts max. Don't make stuff up, if you don't know then don't post.

Jumtan that build looks quite good to me. What kind of case are you looking for? Traditional style or something with led lit fans? A budget for the case would also help. There are dozens of quality cases out there at every price range from $50-$350.

Here are some good cases at different price points.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 139-005-TS


Edit:

I do agree with the Samsung 830 series being one of the best SSDs on the market right now.


well then i guess the newegg calculator is wrong
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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
February 10, 2012 8:53:18 PM

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well then i guess the newegg calculator is wrong


Might want to try it again.


Jumtan do any of the cases I linked to look good to you or any of the styles?

Here are some more good ones at a little higher price point than my last selections.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
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February 10, 2012 9:10:27 PM

It looks like newegg is the preferred online merchant?
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February 10, 2012 9:12:17 PM

-If ya can justify the extra $100 for the 2600k over the 2500k, ya should also be able to justify the xtra $40 for the 2700k.

-The $50 price point is about where I draw the line between using GeForce cards and Quadro cards....above that, Quadro....below that, GeForce .... you're right on the cusp......the Quadro will gimp gaming and general use a bit....so it depends on how much time you spend with either.

-The apps you listed benefit from faster speed and lower CAS RAM...you invested no significant $ here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case / PSU - I use these almost exclusively for Architects and Engineer builds

$140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The case is extremely quiet .... the PSU gives ya more power than ya need but the key here is having it running at 50% load where it is dead silent and hits peak efficiency point.....besides, where else you gonna get a 10.0 performance rated PSU for $120 ????

-That SSD is about 1/4th the speed of current generation models. Grab a tier 3 unit from here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

The Patriot Wildfire is ridiculously cheap right now at $170 ...
$20 MIR and $20 off w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X8E, ends 2/14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Using wireless networking will slow your work substantially if storing files on the network.
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February 10, 2012 9:16:55 PM

The Rosewill looks pretty good.- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I thought I might get a small case but now I'm thinking a larger one might be good for a beginner for ease of cable management. I can also put in the assortment of old HDs in my drawer that I use for a fragmented back up system!

anort3 said:
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well then i guess the newegg calculator is wrong


Might want to try it again.


Jumtan do any of the cases I linked to look good to you or any of the styles?

Here are some more good ones at a little higher price point than my last selections.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
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February 10, 2012 9:27:40 PM

Thanks for the great feedback and advice! It's quite a bit to digest but I'm gonna have fun thinking this through.

It's going to be a stand alone unit in my home office and so I use wifi only for connecting to the internet. I store all my files on board and back up locally. So I don't think wifi will be a problem for me. Been working this way for the last few years.

What does lower CAS RAM mean?

I assume you are in the business of building systems for Architects and Engineers? I'll definitely consider the $40 upgrade to the 2700k. I didn't know it was such a small difference.

Processing your other suggestions........ :) 

JackNaylorPE said:
-If ya can justify the extra $100 for the 2600k over the 2500k, ya should also be able to justify the xtra $40 for the 2700k.

-The $50 price point is about where I draw the line between using GeForce cards and Quadro cards....above that, Quadro....below that, GeForce .... you're right on the cusp......the Quadro will gimp gaming and general use a bit....so it depends on how much time you spend with either.

-The apps you listed benefit from faster speed and lower CAS RAM...you invested no significant $ here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case / PSU - I use these almost exclusively for Architects and Engineer builds

$140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The case is extremely quiet .... the PSU gives ya more power than ya need but the key here is having it running at 50% load where it is dead silent and hits peak efficiency point.....besides, where else you gonna get a 10.0 performance rated PSU for $120 ????

-That SSD is about 1/4th the speed of current generation models. Grab a tier 3 unit from here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

The Patriot Wildfire is ridiculously cheap right now at $170 ...
$20 MIR and $20 off w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X8E, ends 2/14
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-Using wireless networking will slow your work substantially if storing files on the network.

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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
February 10, 2012 10:11:39 PM

The case is something you have to live with and look at everyday. So really it just has to be one you like. All of the cases listed are high quality and would work for you well. Just pick one you like.

Sandy Bridge processors have the memory controller on the CPU itself. All the tests I have seen show very little benefit from going with low cas latency ( faster ) RAM. I have low cas 7 stuff myself but if I had waited on some benchmarks to come out I would have gone with standard 1.5v DDR3 1600 cas 9 and not spent the extra money. I bought my system last January about a week after Sandy Bridge was released. I also paid a premium for the low cas stuff ( $159 a year ago for 8GB ) and prices have really come down since then. You might get a 1 -2% speed increase from the cas 7 stuff.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/memory/2011/01/11/the-...

The power supply you orignally picked out is a good quality unit and would be fine for your build. If you just want to spend the extra money get the one Jack listed above. It is a great unit and would be quiet but it's really overkill for what you need. That power supply would have to go in an Antec case though as it's a propriatery size.

I see spending the extra $100 for a 2600 over a 2500 because you will use Hyperthreading but an extra $40 for a 100Mhz clock speed bump to the 2700? Not sure I would do that or not. Whatever is in your budget.

If you are going with a K model processor-2600K or 2700K you will want aftermarket cooling to overclock it. If you have no plans on overclocking then there is no reason to go with a K model. The Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a good low cost option if you do plan on overclocking.

The Samsung 830 series is about the best SSD on the market right now. It is what you get if you order an Dell with an SSD. And you know OEMs are super cheap and don't want to replace parts if they can help it! As you can see it gets a Tom's recommended buy for its price range.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...
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February 11, 2012 12:18:02 PM

Ok. Here's a revised spec based on all your great comments so far.


1) case - COOLER MASTER Storm Sniper SGC-6000-KXN1-GP Black Steel, ABS Plastic, Mesh bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

2) motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

3) processor - Intel Core i7-2600 (The system is pretty a home office workstation with basic entertainment. No gaming so perhaps I don't need a K model. COMMENTS?)

4) gpu - PNY VCQ2000-PB Quadro 2000 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card

5) ram - CORSAIR XMS3 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX16GX3M4A1333C9 Desktop Memory Kit - 16 GB (4x4GB)

6) power - Corsair HX650W Power Supply - 650-Watts, Modular, ATX, Single 12V Rail, 80 Plus Bronze

7) hard drive #1 - SAMSUNG 830 Series MZ-7PC128D/AM 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Desktop Upgrade Kit

8) hard drive #2 - Seagate ST1000DM003 Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive - 1TB, 7200RPM, 64MB, SATA 6Gb/s

9) optical drive - Sony Optiarc AD7280S-OB 24x DVDRW Drive - 24x, SATA, Black, OEM

10) OS - Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (What's the deal with OEM? Are self system builders technically allowed to use this? Would save over $100!)

Comments? Thanks in advance!
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February 11, 2012 3:27:12 PM

Looks good. Still more power than you need but that PSU is modular and that's a great thing to have.

You only need a K series processor if you plan on overclocking. Some of the programs you use would benefit from this and it's very easy with the K series but it's up to you. If you do change your mind the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a great low cost cooler that will let you reach ~4.5Ghz.

The Samsung 830 is a great SSD.

The Windows 7 OEM just ties the license to one motherboard. It's what I use.
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February 12, 2012 2:09:17 AM

Thanks anort3. I'll certainly consider the K models. I'm curious about overclocking but have no idea yet how to achieve it. Maybe you can help point me to the right resources to learn about it? Which programs do you feel might benefit from overclocking? I do feel that I tax whatever system I'm using the most when I'm either rendering a 3D model or a video.

anort3 said:
Looks good. Still more power than you need but that PSU is modular and that's a great thing to have.

You only need a K series processor if you plan on overclocking. Some of the programs you use would benefit from this and it's very easy with the K series but it's up to you. If you do change your mind the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo is a great low cost cooler that will let you reach ~4.5Ghz.

The Samsung 830 is a great SSD.

The Windows 7 OEM just ties the license to one motherboard. It's what I use.

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a c 82 B Homebuilt system
February 12, 2012 2:43:31 AM

Well it just so happens rendering is one of those things that benefits greatly from higher clockspeed. Since a 2600K can go from 3.4Ghz to ~4.5Ghz on a $30 cooler and run safely for years at that speed you might want to consider it. All you would need is a 2600K processor and a good budget cooler like the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Here are a few good guides to start:


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sandy-bridge-overcl...
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/265056-29-2600k-2500k...

http://hardocp.com/article/2011/01/03/intel_sandy_bridg...

http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/overclocking/39184-p67-s...

All you really have to remember is keep the voltage under about 1.36v to be safe and keep the temps in or under the low 70s C.

My 2600K has been overclocked to 4.5Ghz for over a year now at 1.32v and has never had any problems.
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February 12, 2012 3:31:07 AM

I didn't see anyone mention the wireless adapter. What are your specs for your router? Is it Wireless G, Wireless N(2.4 Ghz, 5Ghz or dual band)? What are you doing over the network? Does it require lots of bandwidth or are you just using it for basic internet use?
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February 12, 2012 6:26:45 PM

I'm soliciting advice and recommendations for a wireless adapter for my build. Again, pretty much a novice when it comes to choosing/specifying components. But I don't have a home network at the moment though I do see the need for one in the near future for network printing and communicating between say 3 computers (2 will be laptops). Don't need lots of bandwidth I suppose, mostly for basic internet use, good streaming ability. I'll be backing up files locally, not over the network.

If it's any help, I have a DSL service now and my router is an Actiontec PK5000 that I got through Qwest (now Centurylink).

JKatwyopc said:
I didn't see anyone mention the wireless adapter. What are your specs for your router? Is it Wireless G, Wireless N(2.4 Ghz, 5Ghz or dual band)? What are you doing over the network? Does it require lots of bandwidth or are you just using it for basic internet use?

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February 19, 2012 12:57:40 PM

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