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FX 6100 Vs AMD Phenom II X6 1045T? (Without OC)

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May 28, 2012 12:06:16 AM

Hello.

I am looking to get a new CPU because the one I have is not so great for what I need. Currently I have the AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz. It's okay, but man, it is really not that great under load. I do a lot of video editing/rendering, as well as gaming in 1080p and this cpu works well enough, but I feel like I need some more speed. I also have 8 gigs of 1600 DDR3 RAM.

Anyways. I was looking at 3 possible CPU's around a certain price range as I am on a reasonably tight budget.

Keep in mind, I have zero plans to overclock, as it's not something I understand enough to dabble in.

The main CPU I was looking at was the FX 6100. Seems like a great price for a 6 core, but I am reading mixed reviews on it's actual performance.

I was also looking at the Phenom II X6 1045T.

They are both the same price but I just don't know what to get to make it worth while to upgrade from my current cpu.

Again, I'll be doing lots of gaming and video editing/rendering with special effects in After Effects as well as photo editing.

One of the downsides (for me) is that the 6100 is AM3+ and my mobo only supports AM3 currently. So, i'd have to upgrade my motherboard as well. Which isn't THAT big of a deal as I am sporting a micro atx and would kind of like to get a full size ATX board.

What about the Phenom II X4 965 black? It seems to have insanely good reviews. Would it really be that big of a jump? It'd certainly be a lot cheaper than the fx-6100 route (since I'd have to get a new mobo)

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May 28, 2012 12:34:40 AM

The decider here could be your motherboard! Since it is AM3 go with the 1045T those two extra cores will improve your editing/rendering time.
If you are upgrading motherboards you might as well swap to Intel.
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May 28, 2012 12:41:19 AM

First of all just overclock your current processor and see how you like the performance.
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May 28, 2012 12:55:50 AM

amuffin said:
First of all just overclock your current processor and see how you like the performance.


As stated above, I am not interested in overclocking.
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May 28, 2012 1:00:00 AM

clock for clock the phenom II are faster, but since the 1045 is some 700 mhz lower, the 6100 will be the faster of the 2.
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May 28, 2012 1:02:05 AM

half_derpy said:
As stated above, I am not interested in overclocking.

Why not try it? You are going to upgrade cpu either ways. :heink: 
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May 28, 2012 1:25:08 AM

amuffin said:
Why not try it? You are going to upgrade cpu either ways. :heink: 


Unless he has good baord, he is just as likely to blow out the Vregs as he is to fry his spu. Both are unlikely, but the cpu is not the only component effected by the OC.
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May 28, 2012 3:16:16 AM

amuffin said:
Why not try it? You are going to upgrade cpu either ways. :heink: 


True, but i'd rather not risk frying it or something similar. After I upgrade, I am giving the Propus to a friend to upgrade his machine. Overclocking is great, but probably just not going to be anything that interests me. I know enough about computers that I could probably do it without catastrophic failure, but i'd rather just have a good CPU out of the box.

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clock for clock the phenom II are faster, but since the 1045 is some 700 mhz lower, the 6100 will be the faster of the 2.


So you're saying that even though the Phenom series as a whole is better, it'd be more wise to get the FX 6100 as the clock speed is higher? Good to know. Thank you.
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May 28, 2012 3:34:04 AM

Yes Half, given the mhz difference, the 6100 will be faster. It also has a stronger memory controller, the ones on the Phenom IIs left a lot to be desired for when running DDR3.
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May 28, 2012 8:30:01 AM

On this occasion the FX 6100 is faster all round, The IPC may be lower marginally but the clock speed advantage and the memory controller which is far superior to the Phenom II's is where the gains will be seen.

The other advantage is that the FX will force you onto a 900 Chipset motherboard which will give you a upgrade path.

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May 28, 2012 8:33:59 AM

I'd take the Phenom II 1045T 2.7GHz base with 3 cores going to 3.2 GHz on turbo and 6 real cores.

FX 6100 FX needs to be around 25% faster clock speed to level with Phenom II in many tasks (its less efficient) so with its 3.3GHz then 3.9 turbo they are going to trade punches in many things.

Phenom has 6 real cores. FX has 6 Bulldozer modules not 6 proper cores. Theres a reason you see 6100 CPU's so seemingly cheap while the thing they replaced (phenom II) is holding and increasing in price....... its not because AMD want to give you a warm fuzzy feeling.

The 965 you mention is a good CPU but not really for you as to really unleash that one you want to Overclock it.

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May 28, 2012 5:21:33 PM

What about the 8120 or 8150? I'm getting mixed signals on the 6100 and I'd rather not spend the money on something that won't be what I need.

Again, I do a lot of 1080p video rendering/effects in After Effects as well as gaming (BF3, Diablo 3, Max Payne 3 etc)
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May 28, 2012 5:34:24 PM

Like I said before the Phenom does not need motherboard change, if you want to change motherboards then you might as well go Intel with an I7 that can handle 8 threads for your rendering/editing and surpasses everything that AMD has for gaming. Here comparison between I7 2600K and FX8150 http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=287
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May 28, 2012 5:36:08 PM

What exact motherboard do you have? Some am3 boards are compatible with a bios update.
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May 28, 2012 6:01:02 PM

noob2222 said:
What exact motherboard do you have? Some am3 boards are compatible with a bios update.



I have the ASUS M4N68T-M V2.

I know that Intel makes a great chip, but the prices are pretty high and frankly, I just don't want to change my whole platform.
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May 28, 2012 6:05:48 PM

If you want lowish cost get the 1045T it will do all you need well

If your budget is HIGH get the i7 it will do all you need best

If your budget is middlish and slightly elastic get an i5 2500k it does reasonably well in the video stuff and rips the 8120/50 apart gaming for more or less the same cost.

i5 2500k VS 8150

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288

1045T I see as a better buy than 6100 and the best choice if you want a cheap easy fix.

2500k or 2600k a better buy than 8150/8120 though the Intels will obviously require a new motherboard.
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May 28, 2012 6:07:06 PM

half_derpy said:
I have the ASUS M4N68T-M V2.

I know that Intel makes a great chip, but the prices are pretty high and frankly, I just don't want to change my whole platform.

No FX supported on that board http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4N68TM/#CPUS
Therefore I am saying the Phenom X6 which is compatible with your motherboard and will speed up your rendering/editing, since changing either to FX or Intel requires a new motherboard both considered platform change!
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May 28, 2012 6:15:07 PM

wr6133 said:
If you want lowish cost get the 1045T it will do all you need well

If your budget is HIGH get the i7 it will do all you need best

If your budget is middlish and slightly elastic get an i5 2500k it does reasonably well in the video stuff and rips the 8120/50 apart gaming for more or less the same cost.

i5 2500k VS 8150

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/434?vs=288

1045T I see as a better buy than 6100 and the best choice if you want a cheap easy fix.

2500k or 2600k a better buy than 8150/8120 though the Intels will obviously require a new motherboard.



That comparison benchmark from anandtech is really helpful. Maybe the 2500k would be a good choice after all. I have heard nothing but great things about intel, but I am just weary about a new cpu platform. What would I have to change other than motherboard? I've got an nvidia geforce gts 450 (but will likely get the gtx 560 ti soonish)

Would I have to change graphics cards as well? Or could I just get the 2500k and a matching motherboard and keep my existing stuff?
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May 28, 2012 6:18:23 PM

Yes only motherboard and CPU, both use DDR3 ram and the rest of the hardware is universal for all platforms!
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May 29, 2012 1:14:11 AM

Best answer selected by half_derpy.
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May 29, 2012 10:39:42 AM

With that setup, definately the Thuban.
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May 30, 2012 10:19:29 AM

I can tell you from experience the fx-6100 multitask like a champ, I've owned one for about a year now, I have another machine with 8 gigs of ddr3 with a 1045t in it. I can tell you without a doubt, the fx-6100 with four gigs of ddr3 @1600 multitask much better. I sometimes jump out of games or Sonar to browse the net for stuff or run some other apps to check something and FORGET I have bad ass programs that by themselves use to load my old machine. I can do other things while Sonar renders large projects. You mention your chipset problem, but I can tell you the 6100 runs AWESOME with 1600Mhz ram on the 990chipset, and the UD3s from gigabyte are cheap and, well, durable (had one catch fire by the USBs in the back and it never stopped running, still works), and my 1045t seemed to run better plugged into a 990 board. I live in Louisiana and the fx-6100 handles the hot days with stock air at 3.9Ghz, and as a lot of enthusiast complained about, AMD makes it REAL easy to overclock this thing, including all settings from software if you wish, but the bios on most mobos is easy to use as well. It allowed me to build a pretty kick ass budget gaming machine for REAL cheap. Handles everything I throw at it, just like everyone who owns one says. Pair it with an HD 6850 for $145 and you can render all the video you want. If you don't believe me, read the owner reviews on NEWEGG for the 6100. If a new motherboard is out of the question, I would go with the 1045t, it's very close in performance and a little cheaper.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
no ***, went to get you the link, and they got MY REVIEW featured! Read it if you want the breakdown from my fifth month with this chip. search by my the name SplAdam.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

or check this out -

http://www.overclock.net/t/1247023/1045t-6100-or-965

-Spladam
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June 17, 2012 6:41:08 PM

I just wanted to update that I went with the 1045t. However, I have been reading some things online that say that my mobo (asus M4N68T-M V2) is not a great board to use with my new cpu. It is listed as compatible on the ASUS site, but random posts saying that it could potentially overheat and fry itself?!

Help! I am pretty scared that I could ruin my machine. The cpu isn't here just yet, but I want to make sure that I don't fry everything!
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June 17, 2012 9:34:45 PM

That board is compatible with up to the 1100T, 125 watt cpu, the 1045 is only 95W and isn't going to hurt it.
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June 17, 2012 11:22:44 PM

noob2222 said:
That board is compatible with up to the 1100T, 125 watt cpu, the 1045 is only 95W and isn't going to hurt it.


Okay. I was reading in a couple of places that it's okay under idle/normal loads, but if you start using 100% load then it could get a bit too hot or something along those lines.

I picked up the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Zalman CNPS5X cooler just in case. I won't be overclocking it on this board, but better safe than sorry since I DO use it @ 100% when rendering video.
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June 18, 2012 8:02:57 AM

I wouldn't worry you can find negative "my board exploded in a thermonuclear cloud" comments about nearly any board out there
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June 23, 2012 6:11:35 PM

You did good, the aftermarket cooling will keep you in the safe, especially with a 95watt tdp, (which is actually the thermal energy in watts that it can dissipate before trouble), cause if it can handle a 125watt (your mobo), then a 95 with good cooling will have no problem. Grab CPU ALL gadget for windows and the temperature monitor that goes with it and you can keep a eye on it all the time, your max temp is probably around 70 degrees C, but you'll have to check the datasheet for the 1045t, I can't remember.
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June 24, 2012 3:32:34 AM

spladam said:
You did good, the aftermarket cooling will keep you in the safe, especially with a 95watt tdp, (which is actually the thermal energy in watts that it can dissipate before trouble), cause if it can handle a 125watt (your mobo), then a 95 with good cooling will have no problem. Grab CPU ALL gadget for windows and the temperature monitor that goes with it and you can keep a eye on it all the time, your max temp is probably around 70 degrees C, but you'll have to check the datasheet for the 1045t, I can't remember.


I have all CPU already. Downloaded it a while back for the quad core and kept it around. I also got "Speedfan" and locked the CPU temp to my taskbar so that it's always visible what temps I am running (I do the same for GPU)

So far, I've had zero issues. I did a quick test and rendered out a 1080p video with custom effects and my cpu only got up to 52 under full load for about 15 minutes. It idles 28-31 with the cooler.

Hooray!
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