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February 11, 2012 1:45:15 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: 1 week

Budget Range: $2,000 - $3000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, Amazon.com, FrozenCPU.com

Country: Michigan, USA

Parts Preferences: I like ASUS and Mushkin. Intel for processor, Nvidia for GPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

PC Parts
$279.99 CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$339.99 MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$369.99 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$144.99 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$780.03 GPU http://www.excaliberpc.com/608387/evga-geforce-gtx-590-...
$199.99 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$199.99 HD1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99 DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - 2684.95 before newegg 30% discount on purchases.

Water Cooling System
$299.99 PUMP http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14246/ex-res-314/Kool...
$159.99 GPUC http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14176/ex-blc-966/Alph...
$49.95 CPUC http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14525/ex-blc-1007/Alp...
$46.95 RADI http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5073/ex-rad-98/Black_...

Total - 556.88

This is what I have so far. I DO NOT have to pay for the PC parts as I am reimbursed through my wife's work for the parts. Need to know if that set up is good and if I should change anything. I start ordering on Tuesday so I need to have it finalized by Monday. The water cooling I am sticking with. I only have to pay for the parts outside the main computer, which include the water cooling system. I also need an internal wifi card so I can connect for the internet.

Need to know what kind of tubes and connectors I need so everything works. The pump I am going to change the LED in it so it is red instead of blue. If anyone has other input on this system or has other options for the parts let me know. As for the 2700k instead of the 2600k its because the 2600k is out of stock and the 2700k isn't. I am planning on OCing to 5.0 on the CPU and I hear the 2700k can do it easily.
a b B Homebuilt system
February 11, 2012 2:06:07 PM

1. Intel does not ask you if you overclocked your K series processor. They DO ask if you overclocked the memory! Intel processors are designed to operate the memory at 1066MHZ or 1333MHZ ONLY. The minute you run that memory at anything higher, you void the warranty.
Since this is the official stance from Intel, it would be prudent to let people know up front when you recommend higher clocked memory what the rules are. Most or all memory will default to 1333MHZ initially for this reason.
We all know that memory speeds play a very tiny role in overall performance anyway. Those who feel compelled to complete honesty in any future RMA process would be well advised to refrain from higher memory clocks.


http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/333313-31-intel-speed...

For that reason i suggest you go with the 1333 over the 1600.
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February 11, 2012 2:16:29 PM

Problem with that is the selection of ddr3 1333 ram is very small. Most wont go with the overall theme of my system and I have grown to trust Mushkin ram. Even if it defaults down to 1333 that will be fine as the overall look in the case is just as important to me. I don't plan on overclocking the ram anyways as it should do its job at default specs.
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 11, 2012 2:23:59 PM

zieg said:
Problem with that is the selection of ddr3 1333 ram is very small. Most wont go with the overall theme of my system and I have grown to trust Mushkin ram. Even if it defaults down to 1333 that will be fine as the overall look in the case is just as important to me. I don't plan on overclocking the ram anyways as it should do its job at default specs.



That is your choice i just felt it best to point it out up front to let you know. :) 
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February 11, 2012 2:31:54 PM

I appreciate it knock on wood I have never had to RMA anything yet. Wondering if anyone has a complete water cooling system they can link too. I need the GPU block but the CPU one can change since I heard certain metal combos can ruin a system. I would like a reservoir in the front panel so I can keep an eye on things and would like it to have a red LED or no LED. Plan on adding red dye to the liquid if there isn't an LED.
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February 11, 2012 3:44:58 PM

zieg said:
Approximate Purchase Date: 1 week

Budget Range: $2,000 - $3000

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com, Amazon.com, FrozenCPU.com

Country: Michigan, USA

Parts Preferences: I like ASUS and Mushkin. Intel for processor, Nvidia for GPU

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

PC Parts
$279.99 CASE http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$249.99 PSU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$339.99 MOBO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$369.99 CPU http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$144.99 RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$780.03 GPU http://www.excaliberpc.com/608387/evga-geforce-gtx-590-...
$199.99 SSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$199.99 HD1 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99 DVD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - 2684.95 before newegg 30% discount on purchases.

Water Cooling System
$299.99 PUMP http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14246/ex-res-314/Kool...
$159.99 GPUC http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14176/ex-blc-966/Alph...
$49.95 CPUC http://www.frozencpu.com/products/14525/ex-blc-1007/Alp...
$46.95 RADI http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5073/ex-rad-98/Black_...

Total - 556.88

This is what I have so far. I DO NOT have to pay for the PC parts as I am reimbursed through my wife's work for the parts. Need to know if that set up is good and if I should change anything. I start ordering on Tuesday so I need to have it finalized by Monday. The water cooling I am sticking with. I only have to pay for the parts outside the main computer, which include the water cooling system. I also need an internal wifi card so I can connect for the internet.

Need to know what kind of tubes and connectors I need so everything works. The pump I am going to change the LED in it so it is red instead of blue. If anyone has other input on this system or has other options for the parts let me know. As for the 2700k instead of the 2600k its because the 2600k is out of stock and the 2700k isn't. I am planning on OCing to 5.0 on the CPU and I hear the 2700k can do it easily.



You stated No: SLI or CrossfireX but I noticed your MOBO supports a maximum of 4 video cards.
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February 11, 2012 4:06:04 PM

I plan to use SLI in the future but to reduce costs I am going with 1 video card and possibly a wifi card. I have a wireless network so I needed the extra room as 2 of those cards takes up most of those slots. Even on my current board dual 285s only leaves 1 PCI E slot for my wifi card. I need to replace it as the one I have plugs into PCI E and comes out of the pc with a little box.
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February 11, 2012 5:00:53 PM

zieg said:
I plan to use SLI in the future but to reduce costs I am going with 1 video card and possibly a wifi card. I have a wireless network so I needed the extra room as 2 of those cards takes up most of those slots. Even on my current board dual 285s only leaves 1 PCI E slot for my wifi card. I need to replace it as the one I have plugs into PCI E and comes out of the pc with a little box.



Maybe you got it wrong. PCIe is different from PCI slot, the mobo you choose doesn't have PCI slot. PCI slots are for sound cards, wi-fi cards etc.. PCIe are for video cards.
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February 11, 2012 5:10:35 PM

Then my current MOBO has 2 PCI E slots and 2 PCI slots. Only a PCI slot is available with 2 cards in because of the cards thickness. This new MOBO will work wonders as it has more room to put other things that I couldn't before, like a sound card.
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a b B Homebuilt system
February 11, 2012 7:00:32 PM

Case - If I am gonna spend $280 on a case, it's definitely going to be this one

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - I definitely would not spend $250 on any PSU made by CM..... Corsair AX1200 is in that cost range and gets a 10.0 jonnyguru performance rating. $280 - $42 (15% off w/ promo code EMCNHJN69, ends 2/16) - $20 MIR = $218

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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I plan to use SLI in the future but to reduce costs I am going with 1 video card


GFX - The plan has flaws. The GTX 580 is an absolute dog .... as is the 6990. Essentially, it is two underclocked 570 GPU's on a single card.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 205.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.41 - $ 0.48
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05
$ 725.00 6990 (762/903) $ 0.95 - $ 1.61
$ 750.00 590 (881/982) $ 0.85 - $ 1.53
$ 450.00 7950 (603/NG*) $ 0.75 - ERR
$ 550.00 7970 (675/NG*) $ 0.81 - ERR

* Did not complete significant portion of games in test suite, expected to be resolved by future driver releases.

As you can see, the $780 590 gets just 881 fps..... a feat almost matched by the two 560 Ti's 862 fps for $410. And that's "outta the box" .... those cards can go well over 1000Mhz . With your budget, I'd be tempted to recommend two 7950's but AMD hasn't quite got their CF drivers ready for prime time as yet. Note that two 590's (essentially four 570's) for $1560 get only 982 fps (just 10% more than the single 590) whereas the two 580's get 953 fps for less than 2/3 the price.

At your budget, and with everything being "most expensive part that can be found", I'd be considering LGA 2011.....4 way SLI possible w/ pairing below

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - The only cooling effect of the memory sticks w/ tall toothy heat sinks is that they "look cool". Lower CAS and Higher speeds have minimal impact in gaming (benchmarks will see it but you might not). It does help significantly in CAD, rendering,m video and photo editing.

$160 CAS 7 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$170 CAS 7 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$145 CAS 8 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$150 CAS 8 DDR3-1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And, no there's no issue with running DDR3-1600, 1867 or any speed that your Motherboard officially supports.

SSD - Great choice ... but the Wildfire is in the same Tier 3 and can be had for $170 right now w/ promos and rebates.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$230 - $40 MIR - $20 promo .... $20 off w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X8E, ends 2/14

HD - $40 more doubles ya capacity and gives you a faster drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Optical - This BR Burner $45 cheaper today
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for investing $550 in water cooling, I don't quite understand that when overclocking is listed as a "maybe" .....

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

Quote:
It's almost ironic that [air] coolers like [the Thermalright Silver Arrow] are becoming available just as processors transition to designs that may ultimately render them unnecessary; even overclocked to 5GHz, an Intel Sandy Bridge 2600K doesn't need anywhere near this level of cooling.


http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/phanteks_ph_tc14pe...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Arrow or even better the new Phanteks cooler will handle thermal loads up to about 5.2 GHz
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