Does a 'Push-Pull' Setup Decrease CPU Temps?

[timarp000]

Im planning to buy a CM TPC 812 and adding an extra fan to it...

Does the extra fan help in cpu temps?

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

Slightly, as in only a few degrees (1-5C), at most, and only under load.

 

[timarp000]

Slightly, as in only a few degrees (1-5C), at most, and only under load.

So your saying that an extra fan wont do much good?

Im planning to OC 3770k to 4.5ghz... can the tpc 812 with single fan take care of the temps?

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

Not necessarily saying it won't help (I use push/pull on my 212 Evo, and it's around 4-5C cooler than the single fan), but the TPC 812 should be fine with the single fan. Adding the extra fan won't make or break the OC, just help it run slightly cooler.

 

[timarp000]

Not necessarily saying it won't help (I use push/pull on my 212 Evo, and it's around 4-5C cooler than the single fan), but the TPC 812 should be fine with the single fan. Adding the extra fan won't make or break the OC, just help it run slightly cooler.

What If i add 2 cooler master sikleflow's to the tpc 812, will the better fans help in reducing temps?

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

They're good fans, for sure, so they'll help a little more than the stock-type fans for the TPC 812 will, but you'll never get anywhere close to a 10-15C difference or anything. Push/pull helps, but it's not a miracle worker.

 

[HEXiT]

depends on your fans. the better they are the more effective they will be. dont bother with any fan that gives less than 75 cfm... its also more effective if the second fan has a slightly higher cfm to compensate for the pressure drop from the air flowing over the fins. its not essential but will increase efficiency a little (1'c).

 

[timarp000]

Is it Possible to OC 3770k to 4.5ghz with the tpc 812 and 2 sikleflow's or can i only OC to 4 or 4.2ghz?

People say 4.5ghz on air causes thermal throttling for the 3770k.

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

Is it Possible to OC 3770k to 4.5ghz with the tpc 812 and 2 sikleflow's or can i only OC to 4 or 4.2ghz?

People say 4.5ghz on air causes thermal throttling for the 3770k.

Possibly to 4.5. And with lesser HSF's, it does throttle at 4.5 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ivy-bridge-overclocking-core-i7-3770k,3198.html

 

[samuelspark]

I would get Kuhler 620 instead or the H60. 620 is better. Also, the TPC isn't actually that good if you were hoping for something really high end.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4685/cooler_master_tpc_812_vapor_chamber_cpu_cooler_review/index9.html

Kuhler 620: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209049&Tpk=kuhler%20620 ($50 at microcenter)

H60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=h60

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

I would get Kuhler 620 instead or the H60. 620 is better. Also, the TPC isn't actually that good if you were hoping for something really high end.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4685/cooler_master_tpc_812_vapor_chamber_cpu_cooler_review/index9.html

Disagree with closed loop water (just pointless, IMO), but definitely agreed on high end air like a Thermalright Silver Arrow or Noctua NH-D14. Otherwise, custom water is the best way to go.

 

[timarp000]

I would get Kuhler 620 instead or the H60. 620 is better. Also, the TPC isn't actually that good if you were hoping for something really high end.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4685/cooler_master_tpc_812_vapor_chamber_cpu_cooler_review/index9.html

Kuhler 620: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209049&Tpk=kuhler%20620 ($50 at microcenter)

H60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=h60

But those closed water loops tend to get noisy

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

But those closed water loops tend to get noisy

That, and they don't perform any better than a medium priced air cooler, usually. The H60 is just on par with a 212+/Evo, even.

 

[samuelspark]

What?

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/antec_kuhler_h20_620_review/4.htm

Matches the Thermaltake Frio on high. With near no noise.

 

[samuelspark]

But those closed water loops tend to get noisy

No... Antec's offerings are not loud at all.

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

For my money, I'm just saying I would never waste my money on closed loop water. High end air or custom water are the two best options. The only real reason to go with closed loop water is space constraints (and with a larger Rad, even that is questionable).

 

[timarp000]

The nh-d14 is out of my price range

can i OC 3770k to 4.3ghz with push pull using sikleflows's? maybe even 4.5ghz... on tpc 812

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

The nh-d14 is out of my price range

can i OC 3770k to 4.3ghz with push pull using sikleflows's? maybe even 4.5ghz...

Yeah, 4.3 should be fine, and you MIGHT be able to do 4.5, but you'll just have to try it and see.

 

[timarp000]

If i buy noctua nh-d14, will i get better temps? or will the tpc 812 be enough

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

If i buy noctua nh-d14, will i get better temps? or will the tpc 812 be enough

Yes, definitely. 4.5 might still be pushing it a little, I believe, but the NH-D14 would have a MUCH better chance of doing it at semi-normal temps than a TPC 812 (push/pull, or not).

 

[timarp000]

Yes, definitely. 4.5 might still be pushing it a little, I believe, but the NH-D14 would have a MUCH better chance of doing it at semi-normal temps than a TPC 812 (push/pull, or not).

My Cousin has a 3rd fan attached to the d14!

How is this possible? will that 3rd fan decrease temps?

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

My Cousin has a 3rd fan attached to the d14!

How is this possible? will that 3rd fan decrease temps?

Yeah, you can add a third fan because one of the two it comes with is sandwiched between the two radiators. And yes, it should help lower temp some (but again, it won't be anything close to a miracle, just a few degrees, at most).

 

[timarp000]

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2654&page=4

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2654&page=5

the tpc 812 performs close to d14

 

[DJDeCiBeL]

In that test yes, but the 212 Evo is less than a degree warmer in the first one you linked and only 2 degrees warmer in the second, and we all know that's not true in the real world. They're not doing real world tests there, just a hot plate type test.

 

[timarp000]

is the d14 worth the extra bucks?