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February 13, 2012 11:46:54 PM

I've been looking around the past few days or so to build my own rig used for mostly gaming. I play WoW, SWTOR, SC2, LoL, and others and have a budget of about $1000 to spend on parts. Here is the list of what I've come up with and the links to where I'd buy them (sorry, not much order to which parts are listed first etc.):
Cooler Master Enforcer Case - http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Enforcer-Interior-S...

Western Digital Green 1 TB drive - http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Intellipower-3-5-...

Cooler Master Hyper 212 CPU cooler - http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10...

Arctic Silver Thermal Compound - http://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver-High-Density-Polysy...

Intel i5-2500k CPU - http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOX80623I52500K-Core-i5-250...

Kingston HyperX 8 GB RAM (2x4 GB) - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600w PSU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX HD Radeon 6870 GPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I've read reviews and debated over a better video card or a better motherboard, and went with the motherboard because a 6870 can still get over 60 fps everywhere in all mentioned games except for the Imperial Fleet in SWTOR (over that's a waste really) and that's a big jump compared to the 5-15ish fps I get on my laptop currently (in between desktops right now). I decided to get the better Asus motherboard over a 6970 and a lower end Gigabyte board. Any and all input is appreciated, thanks.

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February 13, 2012 11:55:42 PM

It's a good build except for the hard drive. Please don't use a green drive as your primary storage, you'll be sorely disappointed the the performance. Spend the extra 80 or so and buy the black drive. You won't be sorry.
February 13, 2012 11:57:36 PM

Ok, I'll keep that in mind. However, I really am pushing my $1000 limit already, so is there anything I could downgrade to fit in a better hard drive for about the same price?
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February 14, 2012 12:00:53 AM

Well, you could save about 20 by going with a 6850 video card. I don't see where else to cut.

Oh, and the drive is only 155.
Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-D...
February 14, 2012 12:03:45 AM

If you get the Sapphire HD 6850 you can save $50.

Edit: Fixed the typo
February 14, 2012 12:04:49 AM

Vettedude said:
If you get the Sapphire HD 6950 you can save $50.

Huh? Are we reading the same build?
February 14, 2012 12:08:29 AM

Typo. I mean 6850
February 14, 2012 12:09:38 AM

Ahh. That's what I thought. On the egg the price difference at best is about 20.
February 14, 2012 12:22:59 AM

That's much less of a price increase than I expected, and after rebates it'll fit within the $1000 mark I believe. Any other feedback, or ideas of what to expect for various games?
February 14, 2012 12:29:35 AM

you considering serious OC because you doing need the arctic silver, you should definitely take the 6870 over the 6850.

you can also get a much cheaper psu and case.

Which exact mobos are you considering?
February 14, 2012 12:34:44 AM

I'm not planning on anything huge for overclocking, but am looking to take it up to around 4.0, maybe a little lower. Anyone know what the i5 can run at OC'ed stable for pretty much 24/7 turned on, if not used that much? I've mainly been looking at just all $100-200 mobos and checking their reviews to see what is reliable and works well. I know more about the other parts in a computer than a motherboard for sure though.
February 14, 2012 12:36:37 AM

I also decided to get Arctic Silver paste because I've heard plenty of bad things about Intel's thermal paste and their fans are horrible for any sort of OCing, hence the extra coolermaster Cpu fan.
February 14, 2012 12:40:11 AM

well you don't need the arctic silver if thats all you are planning if you want to save a few bucks, the i5 can hit 4.2-4.5 24/7 stable easily with the hyper 212 so you should have no problem.

I'd say just stick to a mobo below $150 since you aren't looking for the highest possible OC
something like this will work and have penty of features.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

try to bump your gpu up to a 560ti or 6950 if you can since its worth spending a bit more on a gpu if you are a gamer.
February 14, 2012 12:47:11 AM

Thanks, I'll definately go with that board for $40 cheaper, and it looks to have just as good reviews. If I were to upgrade to a 6900 board I'd go with a 6970, because its better for about a $10 difference, but is it really worth it? My monitor isn't brand new or anything, so it only refreshes at 60 fps. I know that a 6870 can hit that in almost every game I play (besides in the Imperial Fleet) based on the reviews using a 2500k on this site. Wouldn't that make a 6970 a bit overkill for an extra $100? I play on 1600 x 900 res, so not the most demanding there.
February 14, 2012 12:52:02 AM

oh I guess the 6870 would be enough for your resolution, its would be worth it if you played at 1080p but the 6870 can max out those game at 1600x900 I'd imagine.
February 14, 2012 1:09:47 AM

Yeah, I've got a moniter that came with my last dell desktop bout 5 years back. Good moniter, just haven't tried it at any higher res than that. Guess ill wait and see, but its still going to be a huge upgrade, considering I was very pleased when I finally tweaked my last comp to give me 30 fps everywhere but SW in WoW, which isn't a demanding game anyways...
February 14, 2012 1:26:43 AM

Anyone know of a cheaper/better for the same price psu? I liked this one because its fairly cheap, but I really prefer modular if you know any off the top of your heads that are 600w at least.
February 14, 2012 1:37:43 AM

well thats probably the cheapest modular one you'd find thats good, but you really won't need a 600w for a 6870 and a i5.
February 14, 2012 2:19:24 AM

Really? I used the power calculator that comes up first when you google for one, and it reccomended at least 475 or so watts, and I heard you really don't want to stress your psu too much. Any idea how to calculate vcore for an overclock on an i5 based on the speed you want it to preform at? I know it has a 1-click overclock setting, but I heard that has much too high a vcore and runs dangerously hot. Is there a formula for say like 4200 Hz= ______ vcore or something like that for changing it up in the bios?
February 14, 2012 2:22:21 AM

Oh wait, that number was with a 6970 graphics card because that's what I was looking at before I realized a 6870 was much cheaper and maxxed out my monitor still. So ya, I might just get the 500w version of my current selected psu
February 14, 2012 2:23:15 AM

No there's no formula. Basically, overclocking an i5 2500k to 4.0 GHz requires no additional voltage. After 4.0 GHz, you start at 1.35 Volts and work downwards until you hit instability in prime95.
February 14, 2012 2:45:09 AM

^+1 to a bigger OC, you can hit 4.0 on stock cooling/volts. My 2500k @5GHz/1.43v maxes at 70c with an H50/IC7 and a 38mm thick Panaflo pushing during multi-hour Prime sessions.
February 14, 2012 11:37:39 AM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
February 14, 2012 1:57:04 PM

Oops, didn't see that section. I just thought, oh a parts list, and put it in here. Sorry for that.
February 14, 2012 3:40:11 PM

NP, moving it was simple enough and didn't require me to put my beer down so no harm done. ;) 
February 14, 2012 4:06:28 PM

Imo the games you have listed are not that taxing.

You could easily lower the cpu(i3 2100)
gpu (6850 or wait for the new 7750 which is better/just as cheap/cheaper)
psu(ocz is hit and miss and you could save and get the 430watt corsair/500watt corsair) I built an amd on almost exact same specs but amd's run more watts than intel.

There are better cases with better wire routing as cheaper/cheaper.

Imo stick with i5 2500k and then do the other suggestions I posted. should save you at least 100.
February 14, 2012 4:29:23 PM

Just mind you that the PSU you selected is more like a 500w PSU than a 600w (due to 12v rail amperage limit)
Said that, IF you want to crossfire cards in the future, you can't...
February 14, 2012 11:12:02 PM

I found a cheaper 1 TB hard drive made by seagate for only $120 as well as a $50 Raidmax 700w partially modular psu on newegg. Coincidentally, a Seagate R & D plant is within 20 minutes of me, and I know knowledgeable people who use the same drive I'm buying as the boot drive in all their builds, so that's another plus besides saving around $40 on the hd.
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