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February 15, 2012 9:31:49 PM

Hey all,

I've put together this system which I'll be using for gaming mainly and want to run games on highest settings on a 1920x1080 moonitor. I was wondering whether it is a decent build and whether it could be improved in any way without spending any more money. Also, which PSU would be suitable for this build with the possibility of upgrading to Crossfire in the future? Thanks :) 

Cpu - i5 2500K - £173
Mobo - AsRock z68 extreme3 gen3 - £117
Gpu - Sapphire hd6870 1Gb - £127
Case - NZXT Phantom - £100
Ram - Corsair vengance 8gb (2x4) 1600Mhz - £40
HDD - Seagate 500GB 7200 SATA-III 6Gb/s Barracuda - £65
Cpu cooler - CM hyper 212+ - £40
PSU - anything up to £60

Thanks :) 


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February 15, 2012 10:46:22 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4

8150 @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-60 avg-43
BFBC2- min-45 max-94 avg-65
Crysis2- min-42 max-91 avg-58
Lost Planet2- avg-33
Dirt3- min-75 avg-99
Cinebench- 5.84

i5 2500K @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-59 avg-43
BFBC2- min-44 max-97 avg-65
Crysis2-min-36 max-88 avg-62
LostPlanet2- avg-34
Dirt3- min-79 avg-105
Cinebench- 5.12

Looks like BD fx - 8150 and i5 2500k are pretty similar in terms of gaming performance add in the additional average cost of an Intel platform and slightly higher cost of the 8150 chip and looks like AMD and Intel offer up pretty even results on average as far as gaming as I have outlined and double certified above with link provided. A decent CF/SLI capable PSU will be tight on a small $60 budget but this will be as good as it gets - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Green-S...
February 15, 2012 10:57:57 PM

Looks pretty good I just made a gaming computer using many of the same components.

For the case I would switch to Coolmaster HAF 912. Its cheaper but one of the best cases in that price range. I have it and a friend just got it and we are both very happy at the bang for your buck.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the money saved I would get a better PSU. I currently have a Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 and am very very happy with it. Has plenty of wattage for a future GPU if you want to crossfire and is reliable and quiet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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a b 4 Gaming
February 15, 2012 11:19:18 PM

Hello.
Since you asked for a gaming PC, you chose great products.
Stay on i5 2500k since its the best gaming cpu at the moment for its price.
You can see on this article from tom's that i5 has no competitor http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

A comment from Don Woligroski actually said: "With the sub-$100 Pentiums performing so well, Intel's $125 Core i3-2100 easily beats more expensive Phenom II and FX models. And the $190 Core i5-2400 dominates the sub-$200 landscape without challenge, really. As such, we're almost-shockingly left without an AMD CPU to recommend at any price point."

And as for a good psu, an Antec NEO ECO 620C 620W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... will be able to do the job for just $69.99.
February 15, 2012 11:28:55 PM

2517107,4,997945 said:
Hello.
Since you asked for a gaming PC, you chose great products.

Funny how tom's chart you posted leaves out the FX - 8150 cause its right up there with the 2500K stickler is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4

8150 @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-60 avg-43
BFBC2- min-45 max-94 avg-65
Crysis2- min-42 max-91 avg-58
Lost Planet2- avg-33
Dirt3- min-75 avg-99
Cinebench- 5.84

i5 2500K @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-59 avg-43
BFBC2- min-44 max-97 avg-65
Crysis2-min-36 max-88 avg-62
LostPlanet2- avg-34
Dirt3- min-79 avg-105
Cinebench- 5.12

Looks like BD fx - 8150 and i5 2500k are pretty similar in terms of gaming performance add in the additional average cost of an Intel platform and slightly higher cost of the 8150 chip and looks like AMD and Intel offer up pretty even results on average as far as gaming as I have outlined and double certified above with link provided.
February 15, 2012 11:43:15 PM

stickler_22 said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4

8150 @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-60 avg-43
BFBC2- min-45 max-94 avg-65
Crysis2- min-42 max-91 avg-58
Lost Planet2- avg-33
Dirt3- min-75 avg-99
Cinebench- 5.84

i5 2500K @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-59 avg-43
BFBC2- min-44 max-97 avg-65
Crysis2-min-36 max-88 avg-62
LostPlanet2- avg-34
Dirt3- min-79 avg-105
Cinebench- 5.12

Looks like BD fx - 8150 and i5 2500k are pretty similar in terms of gaming performance add in the additional average cost of an Intel platform and slightly higher cost of the 8150 chip and looks like AMD and Intel offer up pretty even results on average as far as gaming as I have outlined and double certified above with link provided. A decent CF/SLI capable PSU will be tight on a small $60 budget but this will be as good as it gets - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Rosewill-Green-S...


Hey, thanks for the advice i'll look inton the fx - 8150 :)  If I were to switch to it do you know of a decent motherboard for around £110/$170?
February 15, 2012 11:51:26 PM

xtremcarl said:
Looks pretty good I just made a gaming computer using many of the same components.

For the case I would switch to Coolmaster HAF 912. Its cheaper but one of the best cases in that price range. I have it and a friend just got it and we are both very happy at the bang for your buck.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

With the money saved I would get a better PSU. I currently have a Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 and am very very happy with it. Has plenty of wattage for a future GPU if you want to crossfire and is reliable and quiet.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Yeah I did look at the HAF 912 and it looked like one of the best for the price but I love NZXT phantom's design, it's a tricky one :/  Thanks for the advice, i'll try and save some money somewhere in the build so I can afford that PSU, it looks really good and would easily allow for future upgrades :)  Thanks
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 12:18:24 AM

Boopoo said:
2517107,4,997945 said:
Hello.
Since you asked for a gaming PC, you chose great products.

Funny how tom's chart you posted leaves out the FX - 8150 cause its right up there with the 2500K stickler is right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kd4dvLJQP4

8150 @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-60 avg-43
BFBC2- min-45 max-94 avg-65
Crysis2- min-42 max-91 avg-58
Lost Planet2- avg-33
Dirt3- min-75 avg-99
Cinebench- 5.84

i5 2500K @ stock
Metro- min-27 max-59 avg-43
BFBC2- min-44 max-97 avg-65
Crysis2-min-36 max-88 avg-62
LostPlanet2- avg-34
Dirt3- min-79 avg-105
Cinebench- 5.12

Looks like BD fx - 8150 and i5 2500k are pretty similar in terms of gaming performance add in the additional average cost of an Intel platform and slightly higher cost of the 8150 chip and looks like AMD and Intel offer up pretty even results on average as far as gaming as I have outlined and double certified above with link provided.
said:


First of all the FX8150 is more expensive.
Second, seriously you are taking youtube as a serious fact and not one of the best hardware sites as tom's hardware?
Third. I will post you since you dont believe or you havent even search, why FX8150 is NOT a gaming cpu.

1. Anandtech bench comparison between the two of them:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=434

2. Benchmark Reviews testing both on 3d gaming:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

3. Guru3d testing FX series on gaming:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-fx-8150--8120-6100-an...

4. Techpowerup testing FX 8150 after windows patching:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/FX8150/11.html

5. Hothardware testing FX 8150 after release:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/AMD-FX8150-8Core-Process...

6. Hardwarecanucks testing FX 8150 after release:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

7. Anandtech tests FX 8150 after release:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review...

8. Techreport tests FX 8150 after release:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/7
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/8
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/9
http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/10

9. Bit-tech tests FX 8150 too:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/10/12/amd-fx...

10. PUREOC tests FX 8150:
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1376&page=22

11. Xbitlabs tests FX 8150 gaming perfomance too:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-815...

12. Vortez tests FX 8150 on gaming too:
http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150_bulldo...

13. Techspot reviews FX 8150 gaming too:
http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpu...

14 and last Hitechlegion makes a lot of FX 8150 gaming benchies too:
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/processors/13752?st...

I think that 13 sites on the web that generally show i5 2500k better in gaming than FX 8150 are a better proof than a youtube video...
February 16, 2012 12:22:52 AM

-1^ However much Retoric and Propaganda you find to regurgitate the fact remains BD 8150 sits firmly between i5 2500 and i7 2600
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 12:29:28 AM

Boopoo said:
-1^ However much Retoric and Propaganda you find to regurgitate the fact remains BD 8150 sits firmly between i5 2500 and i7 2600

And you think this is a gigantic conspiracy against AMD and FX 8150? :sarcastic: 
Mate, this is not a flamewar for fanboys. Someone will spend money in order to take the best cpu he can for gaming and he is asking for our advise.
I dont know why you are so obsessed with FX 8150. Even a Phenom II 980 performs better when it comes to gaming.
February 16, 2012 12:32:56 AM

If you still haven't decided on a PSU, I'm happy with my OCZ ModXstream. It powers a HD4870x2, an oc'd Q6700, and 2 average HDD's without any trouble. It's the 600W model. It's almost silent as well
February 16, 2012 1:58:21 AM

I'm sure both the 2500K and the 8150 would perform well in this build and I'm probably bottlenecking in some other component :)  I'll probably go with the I5 2500k because everyone who's used it seems to rate it highly and it can be easily overclocked with a good mobo. Would a 600w PSU be capable of comfortably powering 2 hd6870s and an SSD in the future as well? :) 
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 9:19:37 AM

Hayzey123 said:
I'm sure both the 2500K and the 8150 would perform well in this build and I'm probably bottlenecking in some other component :)  I'll probably go with the I5 2500k because everyone who's used it seems to rate it highly and it can be easily overclocked with a good mobo. Would a 600w PSU be capable of comfortably powering 2 hd6870s and an SSD in the future as well? :) 


Well here is an other disadvantage of FX8150. It consumes too much power. In stock clocks it consumes more than a i5 2500k @ 4,7GHZ!!!. I am not even talking about o/c it... Anyways you can see clearly that FX8150 requires 100-170 more watts at stock or o/c speeds. That means you will need to spend again more money on a better psu.

Also two 6870 might run with 600watt with a stock 2500k but I am not sure if you can find 1 with 4x 6pin PCI connectors. I am pretty sure that a 700+ watt would do the job for sure and will have 4x 6pin connectors.
Antec lately seems to have some great deals like this one Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W which normally is at 130$ but atm at newegg you will find it at just $99.99 and $84.99 after mail-in rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

:) 
February 16, 2012 9:38:03 AM

@Boopoo
About gaming CPUs:

Is that hard to follow some articles?

Best Gaming CPUs For The Money: February 2012
Picking A Sub-$200 Gaming CPU: FX, An APU, Or A Pentium?

I just want to people to maximize their experience in games, if they don't want to listen it's ok for me.. not my money in the role...

Article quotes:
"For $190, a stock Core i5-2400 gets you more gaming prowess than any AMD CPU can hope to deliver right now, even overclocked."
"But, to be perfectly frank, Intel's processors are the obvious choice in titles that do demonstrate reliance on host processing power. It simply doesn’t make sense to spend more for less. And, in many games, high-end AMD processors demonstrate a quantifiable performance deficit compared to the Core i3-2100."
February 16, 2012 9:41:24 AM

Boopoo said:
-1^ However much Retoric and Propaganda you find to regurgitate the fact remains BD 8150 sits firmly between i5 2500 and i7 2600


Sits firmly in gaming area? Are you that sure?
Mostly reviews I saw shows that FX-8150 at maximum have the same performance.. than the i5-2500 (that's is basically the same performance than i7-2600 and i5-2400 in games)
In many others FX-8150 lacks the performance, even OC can't reach i5-2400 in some games.
Performance/Cost wise the stock i5-2400 should be enough and would be much cheaper... and costs less at electric bill..
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 1:25:09 PM

Hayzey123 said:
Thanks Memnarchon, I'm going to go with the i5 2500K and I forgot to even think about the 4 6 pin Pci connectors :)  That PSU looks brilliant but it's £100 over here in the Uk :/ 

I was also wondering how the Sapphire hd6870 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...) compared in performance with the xfx radeon hd 6870 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...)? Thanks :) 


Hmmm. What about Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ? Both are around $100.
The $85 SILVERSTONE Strider Essential series ST70F-ES 700W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and $89 XFX Core Edition PRO650W (P1-650S-NLB9) 650W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... should be able to Xfire 2 6870 too, but you might have a bit prob if you will o/c too.

And as for the 6870, since they are both custom coolers, stock hz and good quality, you should go for the cheapest at the moment which is Sapphire.
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 3:14:31 PM

also change 6870 with 6950 with fraction of cost and you can also upgrade the drivers to recognise as 6970
a b 4 Gaming
February 16, 2012 5:00:42 PM

serialkiller said:
also change 6870 with 6950 with fraction of cost and you can also upgrade the drivers to recognise as 6970


First this happens only with the 2GB version of 6950 which is far more expensive than the $160 6870 and secondly you will not find a 6950 nowadays that can be unlocked to fully 1536 shaders. AMD is using laser to cut it so it isnt able to unlock anymore.
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