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Rock bottom cheap NVIDIA card for 1680x1050.

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December 18, 2011 7:22:22 PM

Good night(Well, it is 23:22 here...) everyone... :-)

I do have a system composed of;

- Intel C2D E8200,
- 2x2GB Kingston DDR3 1600,
- 512MB HIS HD 4850,
- TAGAN TG480-U15 480W PSU
- SAMSUNG 2232BW 22" LCD.

The thing is, I'm bored of my vga card and it is giving me signals that it is slowly coming to the obvious end... :-(

I'm looking for a rock bottom cheap vga card on the NVIDIA front that would not push my system limits(on power basis) and deliver the best performance at 1680x1050...

Could anyone please kindly make any suggestions?
December 18, 2011 11:07:56 PM

nvidia arent really the go to guys for power efficient hardware, and your power supply cant handle much more thanyour 4850, but a gts 450 will give you similar power and work great with your power supply

also, just because your native res is 1680x1050 it does not limit you to that res, any res with a 16:10 aspect will work just fine, try 1280x800, it will give a dramatic boost in performance
a c 105 U Graphics card
December 18, 2011 11:31:18 PM

it's 16x9................... gts250/6770......... these would about double what you have in fps....... wouldn't really get lesser cards.

and true, you don't have to run at 1600 res.
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December 18, 2011 11:37:24 PM

gts250 is kind of old, 6770 if you decide on amd
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2011 11:40:52 PM

You might as well step up one notch from what you have 550ti
or as mentioned above the 450 will work but it will be on par with what you have.
a c 144 U Graphics card
December 18, 2011 11:42:21 PM

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that 4850 have comparable performance to GTS250? at least go for GTX460 or 6850 if you want noticeable performance. but of course you might need to replace the PSU. (honestly i don't know if TAGAN is a good brand for PSU)
a b U Graphics card
December 18, 2011 11:44:59 PM

xaira said:
nvidia arent really the go to guys for power efficient hardware, and your power supply cant handle much more thanyour 4850, but a gts 450 will give you similar power and work great with your power supply


this couldnt be any more wrong. a 480watt power supply has more then enough to supply ANY single cpu setup. check out my sig if you dont believe me. the only question is how old is that power supply you have OP.

how much do you want to spend?
December 18, 2011 11:47:37 PM

So you're looking for a video card that is similar (Or slightly faster) to the performance your current video card has?

Look for these models :

Radeon 5770
Radeon 6770
GTX 550 Ti
GTX 460
December 18, 2011 11:53:37 PM

cbrunnem said:
this couldnt be any more wrong. a 480watt power supply has more then enough to supply ANY single cpu setup. check out my sig if you dont believe me. the only question is how old is that power supply you have OP.

how much do you want to spend?



have you ever heard of the brand TAGAN?
did you research and realise that his PSU has 2 20A 12V rails?
would you like me to tell you the story of how i had a 550 watt Codegen PSU that could not handle a 4850?
a c 171 U Graphics card
December 18, 2011 11:57:36 PM

+1 for the 6770, but you will find on many games will be bottlenecked by your cpu.
a c 225 U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 12:11:50 AM

The temp and efficiency titles have been being passed back and forth of late....the nvidia 4xx series were power hogs and were called egg fryers compared to the AMD 5xxx series but in the latest go round (5xx / 6xxx) that has switched for the most part.

However some things haven't changed and , for fps per dollar, AMD leads the market in the below $200 segment and NVidia leads above $200....The 6770 or 550 Ti would be adequate at your budget and at your rez.

http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-550ti/...
550 Ti - Thermal and Power Specs:

100 CMaximum GPU Temperature (in C)
116 WMaximum Graphics Card Power (W)
400WMinimum System Power Requirement (W)4
One 6-pinSupplementary Power Connectors

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/amd-rad...
AMD Radeon™ HD 6770 Graphics

450 Watt or greater power supply with one 75W 6-pin PCI Express® power connectors recommended (600 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for AMD CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode).
Certified power supplies are recommended. Refer to http://ati.amd.com/certifiedPSU for a list of Certified products
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 12:17:33 AM

So 450 or 550ti meet your specs and will run on that PSU,
a c 592 U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 1:58:18 AM

Checking prices on Newegg:

GT 520: ~$25-$50
GT 430: ~$40-$60
GT 440: ~$55-$80
GTS 450: ~$85-$110
GTX 550 Ti: ~$100-$160
GTX 460: ~$160-$230
GTX 560: ~$150-$200
GTX 470: ~none
GTX 560 Ti: ~$190-$270

a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 2:49:49 AM

Only 1 PCIe connector on that PSU and I wouldn't rist using the adapter.
December 19, 2011 7:41:24 AM

Hi everyone... :-)

First of all, thank you very much to all answering my question...

As far as I can see, the common opinion is the 550ti...

That's what I had in mind also, but here people I asked did not recommend it , telling me to upgrade the PSU then to get a GTX 460 or better...

They told that 550ti was not a good card to buy, compared to the price it is sold here, in my country...

I know I won't be going higher than 1680x1050, so I think I'll stick to the 550ti...

I got my confirmation, thanks to u guys...

Take care everyone... :-)
December 19, 2011 7:44:30 AM

One more thing... (I forgot to ask :-)

After the NVIDIA will be installed, I'm intending to switch to AMD, either BD or Phenom II x4...

If I do so, will there be a shortage of power on the PSU side?

Let's say x4 955 or 965...
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 8:03:13 AM

serkanalic said:
One more thing... (I forgot to ask :-)

After the NVIDIA will be installed, I'm intending to switch to AMD, either BD or Phenom II x4...

If I do so, will there be a shortage of power on the PSU side?

Let's say x4 955 or 965...


For games: do not go BD for a while.. It's slower than PII X4.
For Phenom II X4 go for 960T. It's a 95w rated TDP CPU.

As per this review: Sub $200 CPU Review

Intel side you should go for i3-2100, it's cheaper and usually have better performance (IN GAMES) than PII X4 970 and it's rated 65W (same as yours CPU).

My recommendation: go for i3-2100, or if you have money to spend go for at least i5-2300. It's simply faster than any AMD solution in games.
a b U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 9:26:16 AM

Your PSU, Tagan TG480-U15, can only provide 360W at it's 12v rail.
So, your CPU + VGA consumption rate CANNOT go over this power wattage.
Saying this, using a 125W CPU (955 that you suggested), you should use a VGA that:

-consumes less than 150W (leave some room in the PSU)
-use only ONE PCI-E power connection

In Nvidia side 550Ti is the way to go.
In AMD side 6770 is the way to go. But you could wait for the new generation.


December 19, 2011 3:30:41 PM

@vitornob: Thnx... :-)

Now I'm thinking, would it be wise to do as I planned, or change the PSU and get into the world of good speed gaming by going big as 560 and above?

Even though, the resolution is still fixed at 1680x1050...

I mean it would be like buying a Ferrari or Lamborghini but still go slow inside the small town because the farthest place is only 500m. away...

I mean you do not need to speed...

Don't you think?
a c 592 U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 3:40:27 PM

serkanalic said:
@vitornob: Thnx... :-)

Now I'm thinking, would it be wise to do as I planned, or change the PSU and get into the world of good speed gaming by going big as 560 and above?

Even though, the resolution is still fixed at 1680x1050...

I mean it would be like buying a Ferrari or Lamborghini but still go slow inside the small town because the farthest place is only 500m. away...

I mean you do not need to speed...

Don't you think?

A 33% performance improvement is pretty significant, and worth the extra $60 I would say.
December 19, 2011 6:27:39 PM

@matto17secs: Thnx anyway...

I guess I'll stick to the 550ti due to budget reasons...

Even tough the cheapest is sold at 131,52$(US)+18% V.A.T. in my country... :-(

It is expensive compared to abroad prices, due to customs expenses, taxes and etc. being added... :-(
a c 592 U Graphics card
December 19, 2011 6:42:14 PM

serkanalic said:
@matto17secs: Thnx anyway...

I guess I'll stick to the 550ti due to budget reasons...

Even tough the cheapest is sold at 131,52$(US)+18% V.A.T. in my country... :-(

It is expensive compared to abroad prices, due to customs expenses, taxes and etc. being added... :-(

Be sure to overclock it and get as much as you can out of your investment.
December 27, 2011 8:00:43 PM

Good night everyone... Again... :-)


Well, things have changed a little according to what I just accidentally discovered:

http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power

As you know, my power is TAGAN TG480-U15 480W PSU.

I entered my config and with my C2D E8200 according to this calculator;


- I even may be able to run a 6950 with a total of 390W

- I may be able to run a GTX 560Ti with a total of 395W.


Is it possible? Am I missing something?

(I added %20 capacitor aging for 1+ years of usage)
a c 92 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 8:12:59 PM

I don't think you can run anything with more than a single 6 pin connecter. Your options are either the 550 ti which isn't really a good card unless you can get one for cheaper than a 6790 or go with a radeon.
December 27, 2011 8:19:39 PM

Well, that's what I'd been thinking also until I came across this page...

There has to be a point that I must be missing, but can't seem to figure out what it is...

Anyone who might have a clue of any sort?
August 22, 2012 3:39:52 PM

Well, hello there everyone. :) 

After nearly 8 months of time, I'm back with updates.

I sold the m/b, the psu, the vga and the cpu. :??: 

So, I'm starting to build a new system for gaming.

For this thread's update, I bought a second hand Gigabyte GTX 460 768MB.

I'll be posting a new thread under "cpu", so any recommendations will be appreciated.

Thank you all for those who shared their opinions with me in this thread.

Take care...
a c 271 U Graphics card
August 22, 2012 7:25:30 PM

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