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Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:07 AM

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Below the list of stolen equipment:

1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)

All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
It was stolen in the train.
Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.

My contact:
Marek Arcimowicz
tel. +48 601 782411

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Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:08 AM

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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>
> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> It was stolen in the train.
> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>
> My contact:
> Marek Arcimowicz
> tel. +48 601 782411

Wow.
So sorry to hear about this.

That sounds like about $13,000 USD worth of equipment.
Ouch.

Insured?
I hope so...
:( 
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:08 AM

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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>
> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> It was stolen in the train.
> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>
> My contact:
> Marek Arcimowicz
> tel. +48 601 782411

Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is no
way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like it
could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have to
pry it from my cold, dead hands).
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Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:08 AM

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Sorry to hear about it. I had a lot of equipment stolen from me a few years
back.

Good Luck.

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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>
> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> It was stolen in the train.
> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>
> My contact:
> Marek Arcimowicz
> tel. +48 601 782411
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:09 AM

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Is your life worth fighting over just 3 grand of material goods?

While I feel for anyones lose -- I had 17K worth of my stuff stolen from my
apartment while away on vacation several years ago -- even 17K is not worth
dying for no matter how violated theft makes you feel

material things can be replace - life can not -- at least not if you are not
a frankestein or is that frankensteen..

BTW -- I had renters insurance that pay for most of the stuff to be replaced

I'll also look at my coverage rules as I tote around my photo gear on
vacation -- may need another rider if I ever get that much $$ in lenses and
camera


"Dirty Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>
>> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>
>> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> It was stolen in the train.
>> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>
>> My contact:
>> Marek Arcimowicz
>> tel. +48 601 782411
>
> Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
> insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is
> no
> way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
> some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
> without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like
> it
> could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have
> to
> pry it from my cold, dead hands).
>
>
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:35:09 AM

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On 30/5/05 1:22 am, in article O0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no, "Dirty
Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote:

>
> Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
> insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is no
> way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
> some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
> without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like it
> could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have to
> pry it from my cold, dead hands).
>
>
You really should insure them. If you are not shooting commercially, then
household and personal belongings insurance should do it. If you are
commercial then you need commercial insurance, but it covers a lot more.
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 7:35:41 AM

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Tashi wrote:
> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>
> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> It was stolen in the train.
> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>
> My contact:
> Marek Arcimowicz
> tel. +48 601 782411
Did you write the serial numbers of all the parts of the equipment ?
This can help greatly finding what you were stolen.

AyPP
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 7:35:42 AM

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Check e-bay it might be there.


"Aymeric Peyret" <peyret.aymeric@nospam.ec-lille.fr> wrote in message
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> Tashi wrote:
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>
>> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>
>> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> It was stolen in the train.
>> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>
>> My contact:
>> Marek Arcimowicz
>> tel. +48 601 782411
> Did you write the serial numbers of all the parts of the equipment ?
> This can help greatly finding what you were stolen.
>
> AyPP
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 4:42:20 PM

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"Dirty Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote in message
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>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
> insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is
> no
> way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
> some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
> without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like
> it
> could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have
> to
> pry it from my cold, dead hands).

I bought a rucksack to stash my entire stock in. Only i never leave the
house with it. There is also a beautifully lit bmw showroom not far from me
but i'll be damned if i'll go anywhere near it at night with my equipment
unless i have someone extremely large and unpleasant looking go with me.
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:24:09 PM

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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
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> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>
> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>
> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> It was stolen in the train.
> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>
> My contact:
> Marek Arcimowicz
> tel. +48 601 782411


Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
here.

A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched indigenous
labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.

Do the Indians have a version of Robin Hood?
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:24:10 PM

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On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:24:09 +0100, "Trapezium" <nothing@nothing.com>
wrote:

>
>"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
>news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>
>> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>
>> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> It was stolen in the train.
>> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>
>> My contact:
>> Marek Arcimowicz
>> tel. +48 601 782411
>
>
>Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
>here.
>
> A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
>carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched indigenous
>labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.

India is no where near the poorest counties on earth and you are
showing typical western thinking with that statement. Nor is theft
any form of natural justice. A more correct form of natural justice is
the death of thieves.


*********************************************************

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my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

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Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:24:10 PM

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"Trapezium" <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>
>> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>
>> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> It was stolen in the train.
>> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>
>> My contact:
>> Marek Arcimowicz
>> tel. +48 601 782411
>
>
> Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
> here.
>
> A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
> carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched
> indigenous labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>
> Do the Indians have a version of Robin Hood?

PLONK.
May 30, 2005 5:24:11 PM

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John A. Stovall wrote:
> On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:24:09 +0100, "Trapezium" <nothing@nothing.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
>>news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>>
>>>Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>>
>>>1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>>>2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>>>3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>>>4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>>
>>>All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>>>Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>>>Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>>>It was stolen in the train.
>>>Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>>>I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>>
>>>My contact:
>>>Marek Arcimowicz
>>>tel. +48 601 782411
>>
>>
>>Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
>>here.
>>
>>A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
>>carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched indigenous
>>labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>
>
> India is no where near the poorest counties on earth and you are
> showing typical western thinking with that statement. Nor is theft
> any form of natural justice. A more correct form of natural justice is
> the death of thieves.
>

Yes, Darwin works in mysterious ways - and sometimes he can use a little
help.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
May 30, 2005 5:24:11 PM

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> >Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
> >here.
> >
> > A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
> >carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched
indigenous
> >labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>
> India is no where near the poorest counties on earth and you are
> showing typical western thinking with that statement. Nor is theft
> any form of natural justice. A more correct form of natural justice is
> the death of thieves.

More to the point, death to politicians!

Jean
May 30, 2005 5:54:15 PM

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teflon wrote:
> On 30/5/05 1:22 am, in article O0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no, "Dirty
> Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
>>insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is no
>>way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
>>some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
>>without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like it
>>could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have to
>>pry it from my cold, dead hands).
>>
>>
>
> You really should insure them. If you are not shooting commercially, then
> household and personal belongings insurance should do it. If you are
> commercial then you need commercial insurance, but it covers a lot more.
>
You have to be bit careful with household insurance. Although the
maximum total cover may seem okay, they may have a limit on individual
items, and they may call a camera kit one item. Check their policy, and
get additional cover if needed.
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:54:16 PM

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Sorry to hear about the theft. Frederick is correct - most household
insurance policies limit the amount of coverage and subject you to a
deductible. A better option would be to purchase a "Floater" to your
policy for valuable articles (jewelry, Cameras, golf clubs etc.).
Camera equipment is usually very reasonable to insure this way and ,
there is no deductible.

Alan

On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:54:15 +1200, Frederick
<nomailplease@nomail.com> wrote:

>You have to be bit careful with household insurance. Although the
>maximum total cover may seem okay, they may have a limit on individual
>items, and they may call a camera kit one item. Check their policy, and
>get additional cover if needed.
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:54:16 PM

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"Frederick" <nomailplease@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> teflon wrote:
>> On 30/5/05 1:22 am, in article O0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no, "Dirty
>> Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
>>>insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is
>>>no
>>>way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
>>>some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
>>>without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like
>>>it
>>>could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have
>>>to
>>>pry it from my cold, dead hands).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You really should insure them. If you are not shooting commercially, then
>> household and personal belongings insurance should do it. If you are
>> commercial then you need commercial insurance, but it covers a lot more.
>>
> You have to be bit careful with household insurance. Although the maximum
> total cover may seem okay, they may have a limit on individual items, and
> they may call a camera kit one item. Check their policy, and get
> additional cover if needed.

Yes i know someone who got screwed on a £2000 limit per item. His broker
argued that a lense was seperate but the company argued "shoot pictures with
just the body do ya?"

Anything of real value to you should be specified in your insurance.

As we used to say at jessops "buy the new for old policy then when a better
model comes out just drop the thing and then pop along to us with you
insurance vouchers and get a brand spanking new up to date model"
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 5:54:17 PM

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"Alan Wonsowski" <awonsow@atattglobal.network> wrote in message
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> Sorry to hear about the theft. Frederick is correct - most household
> insurance policies limit the amount of coverage and subject you to a
> deductible. A better option would be to purchase a "Floater" to your
> policy for valuable articles (jewelry, Cameras, golf clubs etc.).
> Camera equipment is usually very reasonable to insure this way and ,
> there is no deductible.

What pisses me off is that the thief will probably get £500 for the lot if
he's lucky and then he'll probably stick that in his arm. I would alert the
police and then start scouting all the pawn brokers, cash converters, 2nd
hand stockists etc. Jessops regularly got circulars saying "if someone
matching this description..... sells you a product X please call this
number.. he stole it."
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 6:33:43 PM

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"Trapezium" <nothing@nothing.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>
>> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>
>> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> It was stolen in the train.
>> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>
>> My contact:
>> Marek Arcimowicz
>> tel. +48 601 782411
>
>
> Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
> here.
>
> A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
> carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched
> indigenous labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>
> Do the Indians have a version of Robin Hood?

So if it turns out you ern more than me its ok for me to rob you blind? See
my earlier posts on this subject. They are not duplicates.
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 6:35:15 PM

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"Jer" <gdunn@airmail.ten> wrote in message
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> John A. Stovall wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 May 2005 13:24:09 +0100, "Trapezium" <nothing@nothing.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
>>>news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>>>
>>>>Below the list of stolen equipment:
>>>>
>>>>1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>>>>2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>>>>3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>>>>4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>>>>
>>>>All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>>>>Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
>>>>Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>>>>It was stolen in the train.
>>>>Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>>>>I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
>>>>
>>>>My contact:
>>>>Marek Arcimowicz
>>>>tel. +48 601 782411
>>>
>>>
>>>Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
>>>here.
>>>
>>>A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
>>>carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched
>>>indigenous labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>>
>>
>> India is no where near the poorest counties on earth and you are
>> showing typical western thinking with that statement. Nor is theft
>> any form of natural justice. A more correct form of natural justice is
>> the death of thieves.
>>
>
> Yes, Darwin works in mysterious ways - and sometimes he can use a little
> help.
>
> --
> jer
> email reply - I am not a 'ten'

lots of people are losing their jobs to india based call centres.
Personally a more balanced world economy would stop this.

Mind you there wouldn't be so many cheap holidays. ;P
Anonymous
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Steven Toney wrote:
>
> Is your life worth fighting over just 3 grand of material goods?


Ok people, lets stop right there and note the following:

a) Tashi did not said that equipment was NOT insured.
He just published serial numbers, good idea.
b) He did not said that he fought the thieves and risked
his life for a few $T, as alleged in this article...

Thus maybe, just maybe we should abstain from ad hoc advices
based on assumptions.

We do not know how it was stolen, left unattended or
grabbed from him, or forgotten?

Thomas


>
> While I feel for anyones lose -- I had 17K worth of my stuff stolen from my
> apartment while away on vacation several years ago -- even 17K is not worth
> dying for no matter how violated theft makes you feel
>
> material things can be replace - life can not -- at least not if you are not
> a frankestein or is that frankensteen..
>
> BTW -- I had renters insurance that pay for most of the stuff to be replaced
>
> I'll also look at my coverage rules as I tote around my photo gear on
> vacation -- may need another rider if I ever get that much $$ in lenses and
> camera
>
> "Dirty Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote in message
> news:o 0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no...
> >
> > "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> > news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> >> Below the list of stolen equipment:
> >>
> >> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> >> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> >> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> >> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
> >>
> >> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> >> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> >> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> >> It was stolen in the train.
> >> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> >> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
> >>
> >> My contact:
> >> Marek Arcimowicz
> >> tel. +48 601 782411
> >
> > Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
> > insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there is
> > no
> > way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I need
> > some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the house
> > without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems like
> > it
> > could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would have
> > to
> > pry it from my cold, dead hands).
> >
> >
Anonymous
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Trapezium wrote:
>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> > Below the list of stolen equipment:
> >
> > 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> > 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> > 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> > 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
> >
> > All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> > Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was included.
> > Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> > It was stolen in the train.
> > Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> > I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any case.
> >
> > My contact:
> > Marek Arcimowicz
> > tel. +48 601 782411
>
> Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
> here.
>
> A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on
> earth carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a
> wretched indigenous labourer, gets relieved of his treasured
> possessions.

However, his email address suggests that he is not a Westerner.

He is from the East. A look into national income levels, and under
an assumption of being in the national median in purchasing power,
I conclude that $15K might have been quite a change...

Anyway, it is a good idea to publish the serial #'s of the stolen
good, and a good idea to warn others to take well care of the
equipment.


Over the years of my life I have spend total of 3-4 years straight
while traveling with equipment, from bitter cold on Geenland to
lush and humid rain forests. My F4 was stolen in Italy, but this
was if you so want a "lucky case" for me. I was back than young
and the F4 was over my budget. To compensate I bought a...
mediocre Tokina glass and the entire combination was ridiculous
to say the least. I earned some sarcastic comments from a
photographer, who happen to have traveled in the train in the
same direction. He was using a F800 as a 2nd body.

His sarcasm was well deserved.

Once my insurance paid me, I did it better: I took a F800 and
a prime glass for the same money. A while later I sold the F800
and I took a F90. I still use the F90, seemingly one of the
most robust workhorses ever made by Nikon!!!

Anyway dear Marek, I wish you the best in replacing the
lost toys!!

>
> Do the Indians have a version of Robin Hood?

Harri Krishna ? :-)

Thomas



PS: One of the poorest regions on the earth you say, ha!
You might be kind of... not exactly well informed...

This is a completely different story, but let me tell it anyway:

For someone who lives in the Silicon Valley, and cannot see
Americans anymore, this sounds strange. We have been conquered
by Indians. Once they gather hiring positions, they often hire
only other Indians. Entire teams and levels of offices are
occupied by people with names which we cannot spell or pronounce.
They partly ignore each other, and not cooperate regardless
grave problems in the quality of products, because of the ancient
cast system ruling their society. National Geographer has published
recently a few travel and ethnic reports about India. I found
interesting a report of someone who was disfigured by acid by
"good citizens," because he took a bath in a pool reserved for
another better cast. He was expected to clean sewage, period.

Their entire families collect for homes and they buy out
American homes for prices which make you stand speechless.

For example, a larger condo in our fenced compound here was
recently put on a market. I looked at it, I saw no any other
white face, only people running barefoot with Indian dresses,
and a few Asians. I found the kitchen in appalling condition,
bad cut and bad location toward busy front street. No thanks,
good buy.

The agent told us later that the condo received over 30 bids
and went for.... $75 K over asking to an Indian bidder. Poor
people, eh? Well, from the billion to chose from, they have
enough people who can right out outprice you to the ground
in your own country. Unless, someone will finally put a stop
to the flood of visas and to the outsourcing of our jobs...

An American friend of mine was with Intel for almost 20 years,
extremely skilled in physics and mathematics. I knew him from
the many project for our NATO defenses. He used to design the
best specialized semiconductors on the planet and proudly
swing the star spangled banner among pictures of American
veterans in his family. But as his wife was battling cancer
and he was laid out as "unnecessary load" in one of the reorgs
at Intel (paradoxically the department manager was Indian), his
life took a spiral change toward the bottom of the society.
Nowadays he tries to survive on being a valet parking driver
with a hotel, selling part time in electronic store, and
such short jobs.

The poorest areas on the planet are partly *blocks of homes*
right here in America, among us. Do not forget this! I will
never take US citizenship, this society is too sick for my taste.

Thomas
Anonymous
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 14:35:15 GMT, "ian lincoln" <jessops@sux.com>
wrote:

snipped
>
>lots of people are losing their jobs to india based call centres.
>Personally a more balanced world economy would stop this.

That is a balance world economic, supply and demand.

And just how do you plan to enforce this "balanced world economy" at
the point of a gun just like the commissar enforce their "balanced
economy"?


*********************************************************

"I have been a witness, and these pictures are
my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

-James Nachtwey-
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
Anonymous
May 30, 2005 9:22:27 PM

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>>
>>Some people might think that the forces of natural justice were at work
>>here.
>>
>>A rich Westerner, who slum-tours one of the poorest countries on earth
>>carrying equipment equivalent to many years wages for a wretched
>>indigenous labourer, gets relieved of his treasured possessions.
>>
>>Do the Indians have a version of Robin Hood?
>
>
> So if it turns out you ern more than me its ok for me to rob you blind? See
> my earlier posts on this subject. They are not duplicates.
>
>

Look, In Poland where I live this it is a earnings of medicine doctor,
teacher or normal worker for around 3 years.
Please don't tell me about Robin Hood, because for me it seems to be
poorer than most of Indian tourists I met.
It was allmost all I have had, in my country no company wanted to
insurance it.
Now I am a bankrupt.

Maybe you know where to insurance that kind of equipment in England for
example?

M.
Anonymous
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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
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>
> Look, In Poland where I live this it is a earnings of medicine doctor,
> teacher or normal worker for around 3 years.
> Please don't tell me about Robin Hood, because for me it seems to be
> poorer than most of Indian tourists I met.
> It was allmost all I have had, in my country no company wanted to
> insurance it.
> Now I am a bankrupt.
>
> Maybe you know where to insurance that kind of equipment in England for
> example?
>
> M.

Tashi, please accept my sincere apology for the comments of one fool. He
does not represent the group. The loss would be devastating to any of us.

If you reside in the UK, France, Spain, or Germany at least part time, then
there are companies that will insure your equipment. If you are able to
replace what you lost, see any insurance agent that sells business
insurance.

Are you a commercial photographer? Were you on assignment when the theft
occurred? If you do work for any major international publisher or news
agency, they might be able to help you obtain financing to replace the lost
equipment and/or insurance to protect the new equipment in the future.

I would also encourage you to look on eBay for replacement equipment.
Everything you lost can be purchased used on eBay, except for the body. It
is too new to find used bodies yet.

Good luck.

Walt Hanks
Anonymous
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"ian lincoln" <jessops@sux.com> writes:

>
> lots of people are losing their jobs to india based call centres.
> Personally a more balanced world economy would stop this.

More balanced in the sense of "Rich countries get richer, poor
countries get poorer"?

>
> Mind you there wouldn't be so many cheap holidays. ;P

Not to mention other items we like to buy without spending a fortune.

Matthias
Anonymous
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Hi,



Walt Hanks wrote:

>
> Tashi, please accept my sincere apology for the comments of one fool. He
> does not represent the group. The loss would be devastating to any of us.


No problem. Thank you.
Of course I can try to insurance outside - in our country there's no way.
The main problem is that even if I would have the money there is allmost
impossible to buy in Poland (or close countries) teh 1 Ds mk2 body - the
same like sandisk's extreme III CF cards.
I have checked in B&H NYC and there is nothing also.

Destiny.

>
> Are you a commercial photographer? Were you on assignment when the theft
> occurred? If you do work for any major international publisher or news
> agency, they might be able to help you obtain financing to replace the lost
> equipment and/or insurance to protect the new equipment in the future.

I work for POLISH edition of National Geographic Magazine.
Buying this digital camera was the only way to exist because they offer
20, max 30 rolls of dias for ALL normal material and they do not care
about anything elese and any other cost.
Just a another third world in the middle of Europe.
There are nothing to say.
Maybe I'll just change my life way...

Please visit www.arcimowicz.com - there you can see my jobs.



> Good luck.
>
> Walt Hanks



Thank you Walt.

M.
Anonymous
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 20:10:07 +0200, Tashi <tashi@wp.pl> wrote:

<snipped>
>Please visit www.arcimowicz.com - there you can see my jobs.

That is quite a collection Marek. You seem to have done it all.
Beautiful photography.
I hope you will soon be able to replace your photo gear.

Good Luck,

RP©
Anonymous
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"Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> Walt Hanks wrote:
>
>>
>> Tashi, please accept my sincere apology for the comments of one fool. He
>> does not represent the group. The loss would be devastating to any of
>> us.
>
>
> No problem. Thank you.
> Of course I can try to insurance outside - in our country there's no way.
> The main problem is that even if I would have the money there is allmost
> impossible to buy in Poland (or close countries) teh 1 Ds mk2 body - the
> same like sandisk's extreme III CF cards.
> I have checked in B&H NYC and there is nothing also.
>
> Destiny.

An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want to
check them out. Here is a link to one of their listings.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...

Hobbymonster in California also claims to have them. Here is a link to
their listing.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=...

I hope you are able to get a replacement soon. BTW, your website is
impressive. Thank you for sharing the link.

Walt
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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:D 7fl7q$nkp$1@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Walt Hanks wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Tashi, please accept my sincere apology for the comments of one fool.
>>> He does not represent the group. The loss would be devastating to any
>>> of us.
>>
>>
>> No problem. Thank you.
>> Of course I can try to insurance outside - in our country there's no way.
>> The main problem is that even if I would have the money there is allmost
>> impossible to buy in Poland (or close countries) teh 1 Ds mk2 body - the
>> same like sandisk's extreme III CF cards.
>> I have checked in B&H NYC and there is nothing also.
>>
>> Destiny.
>
> An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
> immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want to
> check them out.

Why on Earth would you recommend he look to a company with a lousy
reputation????
-What...so he can be robbed AGAIN??
Amazing.
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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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>
> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:cbadnffat_Sv5AbfRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>> An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
>> immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want to
>> check them out.
>
> Why on Earth would you recommend he look to a company with a lousy
> reputation????
> -What...so he can be robbed AGAIN??
> Amazing.

A, I didn't "recommend" anything, I just gave him the information.
B, I think he's intelligent enough to make his own decisions and
C, this is one of only three eBay sellers claiming to have the camera in
stock.

Walt
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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> news:RcLme.27062$Gp.572@fed1read04...
>>
>> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:cbadnffat_Sv5AbfRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>>> An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
>>> immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want to
>>> check them out.
>>
>> Why on Earth would you recommend he look to a company with a lousy
>> reputation????
>> -What...so he can be robbed AGAIN??
>> Amazing.
>
> A, I didn't "recommend" anything, I just gave him the information.
> B, I think he's intelligent enough to make his own decisions and
> C, this is one of only three eBay sellers claiming to have the camera in
> stock.
>
> Walt

When I show someone the way to a shop, it is an encouragement to do business
there.
-Just seems rather odd to do this in the same breath as noting their bad
reputation.
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"Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
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>
> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:A_KdnUyHWbTuEwbfRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
>> news:RcLme.27062$Gp.572@fed1read04...
>>>
>>> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:cbadnffat_Sv5AbfRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>>>> An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
>>>> immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want
>>>> to check them out.
>>>
>>> Why on Earth would you recommend he look to a company with a lousy
>>> reputation????
>>> -What...so he can be robbed AGAIN??
>>> Amazing.
>>
>> A, I didn't "recommend" anything, I just gave him the information.
>> B, I think he's intelligent enough to make his own decisions and
>> C, this is one of only three eBay sellers claiming to have the camera in
>> stock.
>>
>> Walt
>
> When I show someone the way to a shop, it is an encouragement to do
> business there.
> -Just seems rather odd to do this in the same breath as noting their bad
> reputation.
>

If I had any personal experience with the shop, I might not have. But, in
my opinion, by telling him that the shop does have a bad reputation "in the
same breath" as telling him that they have the camera he needs, I gave
unbiased information. As I said, I think he is intelligent enough to read
feedback and make up his own mind. I just wanted him to know that the
camera is available, or at least the stores claim it is.

I don't know why you find that so hard to understand, but I guess we'll just
have to agree to disagree on that respect.

Walt
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"Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
> news:NxNme.27077$Gp.1825@fed1read04...
>>
>> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:A_KdnUyHWbTuEwbfRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> "Mark²" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote in message
>>> news:RcLme.27062$Gp.572@fed1read04...
>>>>
>>>> "Walt Hanks" <walthanks@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:cbadnffat_Sv5AbfRVn-sg@comcast.com...
>>>>> An eBay retailer, DigitalCorp, is claiming to have three available for
>>>>> immediate purchase. They have a lousy reputation, but you might want
>>>>> to check them out.
>>>>
>>>> Why on Earth would you recommend he look to a company with a lousy
>>>> reputation????
>>>> -What...so he can be robbed AGAIN??
>>>> Amazing.
>>>
>>> A, I didn't "recommend" anything, I just gave him the information.
>>> B, I think he's intelligent enough to make his own decisions and
>>> C, this is one of only three eBay sellers claiming to have the camera in
>>> stock.
>>>
>>> Walt
>>
>> When I show someone the way to a shop, it is an encouragement to do
>> business there.
>> -Just seems rather odd to do this in the same breath as noting their bad
>> reputation.
>>
>
> If I had any personal experience with the shop, I might not have. But, in
> my opinion, by telling him that the shop does have a bad reputation "in
> the same breath" as telling him that they have the camera he needs, I gave
> unbiased information. As I said, I think he is intelligent enough to read
> feedback and make up his own mind. I just wanted him to know that the
> camera is available, or at least the stores claim it is.
>
> I don't know why you find that so hard to understand, but I guess we'll
> just have to agree to disagree on that respect.

I guess so...
Anonymous
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On Mon, 30 May 2005 12:38:27 GMT, ian lincoln wrote:

> Yes i know someone who got screwed on a £2000 limit per item. His broker
> argued that a lense was seperate but the company argued "shoot pictures with
> just the body do ya?"

According to:
http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/Canon_...
you can, well near enough.

-SL
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My comment was directed to the person who said they would pry his camera
from his cold dead hand, not Tashi

I'm very sorry for Tashi's loss and wish him the best in getting back on
track -- I've been there in having large amount of my "stuff" taken by
thieves - I have no place for them, but I also think a persons life is worth
a bit more than a few bits of camera equipment


"ThomasH" <henrymot@coco.net> wrote in message
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> Steven Toney wrote:
>>
>> Is your life worth fighting over just 3 grand of material goods?
>
>
> Ok people, lets stop right there and note the following:
>
> a) Tashi did not said that equipment was NOT insured.
> He just published serial numbers, good idea.
> b) He did not said that he fought the thieves and risked
> his life for a few $T, as alleged in this article...
>
> Thus maybe, just maybe we should abstain from ad hoc advices
> based on assumptions.
>
> We do not know how it was stolen, left unattended or
> grabbed from him, or forgotten?
>
> Thomas
>
>
>>
>> While I feel for anyones lose -- I had 17K worth of my stuff stolen from
>> my
>> apartment while away on vacation several years ago -- even 17K is not
>> worth
>> dying for no matter how violated theft makes you feel
>>
>> material things can be replace - life can not -- at least not if you are
>> not
>> a frankestein or is that frankensteen..
>>
>> BTW -- I had renters insurance that pay for most of the stuff to be
>> replaced
>>
>> I'll also look at my coverage rules as I tote around my photo gear on
>> vacation -- may need another rider if I ever get that much $$ in lenses
>> and
>> camera
>>
>> "Dirty Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote in message
>> news:o 0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no...
>> >
>> > "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
>> > news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
>> >> Below the list of stolen equipment:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
>> >> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
>> >> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
>> >> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
>> >>
>> >> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
>> >> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was
>> >> included.
>> >> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
>> >> It was stolen in the train.
>> >> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
>> >> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any
>> >> case.
>> >>
>> >> My contact:
>> >> Marek Arcimowicz
>> >> tel. +48 601 782411
>> >
>> > Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you pros
>> > insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and there
>> > is
>> > no
>> > way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I
>> > need
>> > some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the
>> > house
>> > without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems
>> > like
>> > it
>> > could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would
>> > have
>> > to
>> > pry it from my cold, dead hands).
>> >
>> >
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 4:56:54 AM

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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 30 May 2005 14:35:15 GMT, "ian lincoln" <jessops@sux.com>
> wrote:
>
> snipped
>>
>>lots of people are losing their jobs to india based call centres.
>>Personally a more balanced world economy would stop this.
>
> That is a balance world economic, supply and demand.
>
> And just how do you plan to enforce this "balanced world economy" at
> the point of a gun just like the commissar enforce their "balanced
> economy"?

nope. enforce is unlikely it would be voluntary. strangely though the
national dept of several of these countries added together wouldn't add up
to the trillion that america owns. as the comic emo phillips said "so
america what have you spent all this money on that you owe the world banks"

gwb"oh this stockpile of nuclear weapons, air craft carriers etc"

banker"oh er well, erm ok we will extend the loan no rush <ulp>"

These americans are building weapons like theres no tomorrow....ulp!"
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 5:04:31 AM

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"ThomasH" <henrymot@coco.net> wrote in message
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>>
> PS: One of the poorest regions on the earth you say, ha!
> You might be kind of... not exactly well informed...
>
> This is a completely different story, but let me tell it anyway:
>
> For someone who lives in the Silicon Valley, and cannot see
> Americans anymore, this sounds strange. We have been conquered
> by Indians. Once they gather hiring positions, they often hire
> only other Indians. Entire teams and levels of offices are
> occupied by people with names which we cannot spell or pronounce.
> They partly ignore each other, and not cooperate regardless
> grave problems in the quality of products, because of the ancient
> cast system ruling their society. National Geographer has published
> recently a few travel and ethnic reports about India. I found
> interesting a report of someone who was disfigured by acid by
> "good citizens," because he took a bath in a pool reserved for
> another better cast. He was expected to clean sewage, period.
>
> Their entire families collect for homes and they buy out
> American homes for prices which make you stand speechless.
>
> For example, a larger condo in our fenced compound here was
> recently put on a market. I looked at it, I saw no any other
> white face, only people running barefoot with Indian dresses,
> and a few Asians. I found the kitchen in appalling condition,
> bad cut and bad location toward busy front street. No thanks,
> good buy.
>
> The agent told us later that the condo received over 30 bids
> and went for.... $75 K over asking to an Indian bidder. Poor
> people, eh? Well, from the billion to chose from, they have
> enough people who can right out outprice you to the ground
> in your own country. Unless, someone will finally put a stop
> to the flood of visas and to the outsourcing of our jobs...
>
> An American friend of mine was with Intel for almost 20 years,
> extremely skilled in physics and mathematics. I knew him from
> the many project for our NATO defenses. He used to design the
> best specialized semiconductors on the planet and proudly
> swing the star spangled banner among pictures of American
> veterans in his family. But as his wife was battling cancer
> and he was laid out as "unnecessary load" in one of the reorgs
> at Intel (paradoxically the department manager was Indian), his
> life took a spiral change toward the bottom of the society.
> Nowadays he tries to survive on being a valet parking driver
> with a hotel, selling part time in electronic store, and
> such short jobs.
>
> The poorest areas on the planet are partly *blocks of homes*
> right here in America, among us. Do not forget this! I will
> never take US citizenship, this society is too sick for my taste.

I think you will find two reasons for supposedly rich asians. 1 the poor
ones are still at home and can't afford it.
2. none are high income but a house that will only comfortably cope with one
family of 4 will fit an extended family of 8. Combine the earning power of
8 people even low paid and they can afford a house between them. The guy
who lives next door to me is a petrol pump attendant. He also rents out one
room to a lodger. He still managed to be the highest bidder and own a shiny
new toyota. Probably find that he scrimped and saved all his life.
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 6:34:28 AM

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"Steven Toney" <toneys@ibm.net> wrote in message
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> My comment was directed to the person who said they would pry his camera
> from his cold dead hand, not Tashi
>
> I'm very sorry for Tashi's loss and wish him the best in getting back on
> track -- I've been there in having large amount of my "stuff" taken by
> thieves - I have no place for them, but I also think a persons life is
worth
> a bit more than a few bits of camera equipment
>
>
> "ThomasH" <henrymot@coco.net> wrote in message
> news:429B9463.8642748F@comcast.net...
> > Steven Toney wrote:
> >>
> >> Is your life worth fighting over just 3 grand of material goods?
> >
> >
> > Ok people, lets stop right there and note the following:
> >
> > a) Tashi did not said that equipment was NOT insured.
> > He just published serial numbers, good idea.
> > b) He did not said that he fought the thieves and risked
> > his life for a few $T, as alleged in this article...
> >
> > Thus maybe, just maybe we should abstain from ad hoc advices
> > based on assumptions.
> >
> > We do not know how it was stolen, left unattended or
> > grabbed from him, or forgotten?
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >>
> >> While I feel for anyones lose -- I had 17K worth of my stuff stolen
from
> >> my
> >> apartment while away on vacation several years ago -- even 17K is not
> >> worth
> >> dying for no matter how violated theft makes you feel
> >>
> >> material things can be replace - life can not -- at least not if you
are
> >> not
> >> a frankestein or is that frankensteen..
> >>
> >> BTW -- I had renters insurance that pay for most of the stuff to be
> >> replaced
> >>
> >> I'll also look at my coverage rules as I tote around my photo gear on
> >> vacation -- may need another rider if I ever get that much $$ in lenses
> >> and
> >> camera
> >>
> >> "Dirty Harry" <NOJUNK@FU.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:o 0tme.1514492$6l.1064226@pd7tw2no...
> >> >
> >> > "Tashi" <tashi@wp.pl> wrote in message
> >> > news:D 7djsm$n0n$2@nemesis.news.tpi.pl...
> >> >> Below the list of stolen equipment:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Canon EOS 1 Ds mark 2 body (313466)
> >> >> 2. Canon lens EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM (255194)
> >> >> 3. Canon lens EF28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM (92004285)
> >> >> 4. Canon lens EF16-35mm f/2.8L USM (233245)
> >> >>
> >> >> All was in the Lowe Pro bag Specialist 85 AW.
> >> >> Two Sandisk Extreme III 2 GB and one Sandisk Ultra II 2 GB was
> >> >> included.
> >> >> Also one polarizer by Rodenstock (77mm).
> >> >> It was stolen in the train.
> >> >> Ghorakpur Railway Station, Northern India.
> >> >> I have one witness. Also I have got the bill from the shop for any
> >> >> case.
> >> >>
> >> >> My contact:
> >> >> Marek Arcimowicz
> >> >> tel. +48 601 782411
> >> >
> >> > Ok I have no where near the gear this guy has, but do most of you
pros
> >> > insure your gear? I picked up a 20D and a few lenses so far and
there
> >> > is
> >> > no
> >> > way I could afford to replace them if this happened. I'm thinking I
> >> > need
> >> > some insurance or something, I get paranoid every time I leave the
> >> > house
> >> > without my gear, just walking around with 3 grand on your neck seems
> >> > like
> >> > it
> >> > could get you in some trouble (I'm only about 160 lbs but they would
> >> > have
> >> > to
> >> > pry it from my cold, dead hands).
> >> >

Yea i was kidding on the cold dead thing :-)
Anonymous
May 31, 2005 3:11:06 PM

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"John A. Stovall" <johnastovall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> "I have been a witness, and these pictures are
> my testimony. The events I have recorded should
> not be forgotten and must not be repeated."
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/




Thanks for that link - sobering stuff.
Anonymous
June 3, 2005 6:50:20 AM

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Wasn't it ian lincoln who said...
> As we used to say at jessops "buy the new for old policy then when a better
> model comes out just drop the thing and then pop along to us with you
> insurance vouchers and get a brand spanking new up to date model"

Yep. We have insurance fraud here in the States, as well.


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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 6:54:12 AM

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Wasn't it ian lincoln who said...
> I bought a rucksack to stash my entire stock in.

When my kids got old enough where we didn't need it anymore, I
started carrying my kit in an old diaper bag. Lots of room,
added some padding, and it makes a perfect travel bag for a
couple bodies, a couple lenses and some other stuff.

And really, who's going to steal a diaper bag?


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