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February 18, 2012 5:22:27 PM

Hi guys,
I'm looking to build my first high-performance gaming computer and after doing lots of research, I'm finally ready to buy the components. However, I'm still not 100% on this build, so can I get some feedback for these parts? I'm looking to spend about $1000 here, but no more than $1200. The closer to $1000 the better. I'm going to stay firm on the CPU, RAM, and the cooler, and relatively firm on the Mobo and HDD. The rest on the list I'll be flexible on, and would LOVE some suggestions to make the rig cheaper/better. I want this rig to be easy to upgrade and futureproof (Ivy Bridge compatible, case large enough to fit very big cards, power supply good enough for SLI). Also, it should be noted I'll be playing my games at 1080p resolution.

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k Quad Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: AsRock Extreme3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory/RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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February 18, 2012 5:42:50 PM

I would say everything looks great. But I would change a few things like the PSU, Graphics card and RAM if it was me.

I would reccomend a better brand like corsair or seasonic. They cost more but a PSU is one of those things you should skimp on.

Also the gtx 570 is a better bang for you buck than the 560 if you got the extra cash. Especially if you like GPU intensive games like BF3, Crysis, and Metro. I recommend evga for a card brand. Mostly because they have great warrentys and customer service. They also have a step up program so in 3 months down the line you decide you want something better you just pay the difference between the cards.

Last is the RAM. Look for something low profile, the tall heat sinks dont fit well with the hyper 212 plus.
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February 18, 2012 5:46:38 PM

I'd highly recommend a different PSU from either Seasonic, Corsair or Antec. Stick to one of those three with a 750w one

The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO is the newer version of the two - better to get it over the Plus version
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February 18, 2012 6:08:51 PM

So I looked at some different PSU's and would this one be good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

@Neal: Would you recommend the EVGA Superclocked 570? I want something that has great cooling as well as great overclockability. Also, how long is EVGA's step-up program?
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
What RAM would you recommend? I'm looking for inexpensive, 8 Gb, and either 1333 or 1600 MHz (1600 is preferable).
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February 18, 2012 6:10:48 PM

rockermike7 said:
Hi guys,
I'm looking to build my first high-performance gaming computer and after doing lots of research, I'm finally ready to buy the components. However, I'm still not 100% on this build, so can I get some feedback for these parts? I'm looking to spend about $1000 here, but no more than $1200. The closer to $1000 the better. I'm going to stay firm on the CPU, RAM, and the cooler, and relatively firm on the Mobo and HDD. The rest on the list I'll be flexible on, and would LOVE some suggestions to make the rig cheaper/better. I want this rig to be easy to upgrade and futureproof (Ivy Bridge compatible, case large enough to fit very big cards, power supply good enough for SLI). Also, it should be noted I'll be playing my games at 1080p resolution.

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k Quad Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: AsRock Extreme3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory/RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Like others have posted on here...change out that psu. But that vid card you have....keep it. Google the reviews on it, that particular MSI card when over clocked runs on par with a gtx 580. It runs close to dead even with the higher priced gtx 570 when both are at stock speeds. One other thing...that case you have up there looks great but it's a hot box. Look for a case with better airflow. It's all about keeping your components cool.

Take a look at these psu's and also look at other sites like Amazon to save some $$$.

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-80PLUS-Bronze-Performance-com... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

or....

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Computer-Power-Supply-HCG-7... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Antec Computer Power Supply HCG-750

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $41.99 FREE SHIPPING
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory with heatshield Model PSD38G1600KH

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $24.27 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $22.88 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E97ZUU/ref=ox_sc_a... $131.66 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Corsair Carbide Series 500R White Mid Tower Gaming Case CC-9011013-WW
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February 18, 2012 6:20:25 PM

Why_Me said:
One other thing...that case you have up there looks great but it's a hot box. Look for a case with better airflow. It's all about keeping your components cool.

I was also looking at the CM HAF 922, Rosewill Thor v2, Antec Nine Hundred. Looking to stay under $150 and perhaps go under $100 with the case.
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February 18, 2012 6:31:48 PM

I recommend an SSD. I just recently upgraded to an SSD, and boy the speed improvements are faster than a cpu upgrade. Of course it only applies to loading apps and sotrage based speed, it wil lnot improve your game fps.
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February 18, 2012 6:36:16 PM

rockermike7 said:
So I looked at some different PSU's and would this one be good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

@Neal: Would you recommend the EVGA Superclocked 570? I want something that has great cooling as well as great overclockability. Also, how long is EVGA's step-up program?
Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
What RAM would you recommend? I'm looking for inexpensive, 8 Gb, and either 1333 or 1600 MHz (1600 is preferable).


Thats a good power supply. But for $5 more i would recommend this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Corsair is really the best brand for power supplys. There build great and have good warrentys.

I would recommend this 570 over the one you choose.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Superclocked doesnt really matter to be honest. You can save 20 bucks and overclock it yourself to the SC settings. Evga gives you a program to do it and its as easy as sliding a bar. The only real benefit of buying the SC version is its already done for you, and alot of people say they have better resale value..but its all in the name. There the same card. I have a gtx 580 SC but only because it was the same price as the unclocked card when i bought it.

Your also probably wondering why i gave you a card that has one fan over 2. The reason is the card fan sucks air into the card and out the back of the card like a wind tunnel. Alot of people say 2 fans can mess with the airflow while its doing so. It also cuts down on fan noise. The one fan in the gtx 570 is plenty powerful. I orginally had the 570 and i never hit over 70c with it clocked up to the SC version playing BF3. The max temp on the card is 93c so you got nothing to worry about.

EDIT: Oh yeah and about the step up program you just need to register your card with in 30 days of your purchase. On the day you register it you have 90 days to decide if you want something better. So say you bought the 570 and decided you wanted the 580 you just pay the difference. Nice deal.
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February 18, 2012 6:47:02 PM

rockermike7 said:
I was also looking at the CM HAF 922, Rosewill Thor v2, Antec Nine Hundred. Looking to stay under $150 and perhaps go under $100 with the case.


I dont know much about your case but alot of people go with the HAF 922. The nine hundred was the case i was orginally going to buy. But ended up going with the Antec 1100 and i love it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I could tell you everything i love about it but this review pretty much sums it up. Its an upgraded version of the Nine Hundred. Its not a mid size tower but its also not a full size tower. Its kind of in between. Gives you the space of a full size but without having a massive tower..if that makes any sense..lol. Just watch this video and you will see what i mean. http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...
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February 18, 2012 6:49:48 PM

Okay, so I took your guys' ideas (Greatly appreciated) and revised my list. Still gonna wait till tomorrow to order, but it looks like I'm honing in on what I want. How's it looking now?

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k Quad Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: AsRock Extreme3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory/RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Total Cost is $1146.52 from NewEgg.
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February 18, 2012 7:03:36 PM

rockermike7 said:
Okay, so I took your guys' ideas (Greatly appreciated) and revised my list. Still gonna wait till tomorrow to order, but it looks like I'm honing in on what I want. How's it looking now?

Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k Quad Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: AsRock Extreme3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory/RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7

Total Cost is $1146.52 from NewEgg.


Looking alot better man. Would recommend you get atleast a 750w PSU though. If you ever want to SLI 2 570's together. Check out this review to get an idea of how much power you will need.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-revie...

Alot of people argue about how much power you actually need. But the way i look at it is you might aswell have more than not enough. An 850w would be ideal. OCing cards uses more power than you normally would. Also you need to account for what you might add later HDD, SSD, Lights, Fan Controllers, Fans, etc.
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February 18, 2012 7:19:45 PM

neal0790 said:
Looking alot better man. Would recommend you get atleast a 750w PSU though. If you ever want to SLI 2 570's together. Check out this review to get an idea of how much power you will need.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-570-sli-revie...

Alot of people argue about how much power you actually need. But the way i look at it is you might aswell have more than not enough. An 850w would be ideal. OCing cards uses more power than you normally would. Also you need to account for what you might add later HDD, SSD, Lights, Fan Controllers, Fans, etc.

Honestly I don't think I'm ever going to SLI. I don't like the microstuttering problems, and I don't like how you only use the RAM of 1 card. I'd rather go with a strong card every 9-12 months. Like a 7950/7970 in a year, which should be able to play everything for at least 2-3 years on high settings. SLI just doesn't appeal to me for some reason. I know I'm one of a handful on the face of this earth, but like I said, I'd rather just sell my old card and upgrade every year or so...Just as long as I have the space in my case and the power supply to handle it. :D 

On a different note, I noticed there's no front fan on the Phantom...But it just looks so awesome and performs amazingly in all categories except the CPU temperature...EDIT: I AM buying a front fan. Less than 20 bucks and totally worth it for the CPU cooling.
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February 18, 2012 8:02:45 PM

rockermike7 said:
I was also looking at the CM HAF 922, Rosewill Thor v2, Antec Nine Hundred. Looking to stay under $150 and perhaps go under $100 with the case.


No USB 3 on the 922 ...... $125 Corsair 500R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Personally I can't get behind the AsRock MoBo due to the chinsy 2 year warranty.

Your bang for the buck dropped with the 570....let's do the math.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

One 732 Mhz 570 gets 524 fps for $340 or 65 cents per frame
One 900 Mhz 560 Ti gets 495 fps for $205 or 41 cents per frame
Two 900 Mhz 560 Ti's get 862 fps for $410 or 48 cents per frame

$70 more gets ya a 67 % performance increase for a 20% increase in price.

Also ya have a SLI capable MoBo and a PSU that can't handle a 2nd card....an extra $15 solves that problem.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The assumption that you can get a reference card to do what a factory overclocked on is false. Tho there are a few factory overclocked cards on the market (i.e EVGA) that are based upon reference designs, the great majority have different coolers, different PCB's and beefed up VRM's. Ya think this mindset would have been dispelled with all the fried 570's .... the ones that failed had refernce VRM's...the ones that didn't had beefed up VRM's with more phases...the kind found on factory overclocked models.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...

Can you get a reference design to hit the factory OC'd level "outta the box" ? .... most times yes. Can you get reference design to hit the OC levels that a factory OC'd model with a beefed up VRM and improved cooler....not very likely !

The Asus TOP model for example comes at 900MHz outta the box and costs $5 more than the regular version. Can you get the regular one to hit 900 Mhz....probably, but the 900 Mhz with the beefed up VRM, Super Alloy capacitors, chokes, and MOSFETs and over size, improved cooler hits 1070 Mhz.....havent seen that level matched with the reference design.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17

So for the $5, yes I'd definitely get the factory OC'd version for the protection and OC range provided by the



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February 18, 2012 8:03:11 PM

Why_Me said:
If you don't have plans on going with SLI later down the road then take a look at this board below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $104.99
ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

If nVidia or AMD gets the microstuttering issue figured out, then SLI/CFX is a legit possibility. I wanna keep the option open, but as of now I highly prefer single cards over SLI/CFX.
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February 18, 2012 8:45:15 PM

What micro stuttering issue ? When I'm usually asked this question it comes when sitting down to discuss specs on a new build with someone and, so far, it's not something that they have actually observed, at least using higher end card, but they "read about it in the internet".

I see lotta articles about MS effects on sub $200 cards, especially w/ AMD as in the THG article, but I don't see anyone saying there's a subjective impact at the > $200 level nor I have personally observed any in current games .

I'm not concerned what a machine can measure w/ a benchmark...I am talking about something you can actually see and has an observable negative impact when playing a game. Since Thanksgiving I have done about 20 SLI builds and not one user has yet complained about micro stuttering.

Son No. 2 upstairs has a 580....Son No. 3 has twin 560's that cost him 80% of what the 580 cost. Arkham City, BF3, Skyrim, Metro 2033 all run noticeably smoother at the highest settings on the 560's and average 40% higher fps than on the 580.

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February 18, 2012 8:48:51 PM

I agree with comments about changing Mother board. If processor is the brain of the system then MB is the nervous system of PC. I would choose a board that has least 8 + phases. Giving you some room to OC well. Personally i will go with Asus board with 12+ phase. Little expensive but totally worth it in long long run.

This will be my biased opinion but, for power supply i would choose Rosewill. They have 5yr warranty. Also i have two system running been 8 years both using 550watt psu. Rock solid absolutely no issue and soundless.
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February 18, 2012 9:21:40 PM

devils_advocate said:
I agree with comments about changing Mother board. If processor is the brain of the system then MB is the nervous system of PC. I would choose a board that has least 8 + phases. Giving you some room to OC well. Personally i will go with Asus board with 12+ phase. Little expensive but totally worth it in long long run.

This will be my biased opinion but, for power supply i would choose Rosewill. They have 5yr warranty. Also i have two system running been 8 years both using 550watt psu. Rock solid absolutely no issue and soundless.

As far as Asus being a 12 phase board...it means nothing vs a 8 phase board and here's why. Anything past 4.4Ghz nets you ZERO gain in regards to gaming and most apps with these SB cpu's. If you wanted a steady o/c @ 5.0+ Ghz then a board with more phases would play in your favor, otherwise it's nothing more than a marketing ploy in regards to these 1155 boards.
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February 19, 2012 12:03:59 AM

Okay, so I looked again and I decided I really liked the Twin Frozr design, which has some pretty outstanding reviews and can really overclock well. Added a case fan to keep the front nice and icy, and I gotta say this looks about perfect for me. :D 
Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k Quad Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115072

Motherboard: AsRock Extreme3 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813157271

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6 Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822148697

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139020

Memory/RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Profile Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233186

GPU: MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT White Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146067

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Additional Case Fan for Front of Case: NZXT FN-140RB 140mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total Cost is $1190.72 from NewEgg.
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February 19, 2012 12:40:35 AM

Here's something to ponder. A 800+ watt psu is recommended for dual gtx 570's, and a 750w psu for dual 560 ti's. Those reviews down below are worth taking a quick look at.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-44... <------ If only they did 1920x1080 on there. That's that MSI gtx 560 ti 448 core (over clocked) vs a gtx 580

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Ti_448_C... <---- there's that MSI card again vs a gtx 580. There's a few more reviews on it also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $294.99 - $264.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
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February 19, 2012 1:46:05 AM

Why_Me said:
Here's something to ponder. A 800+ watt psu is recommended for dual gtx 570's, and a 750w psu for dual 560 ti's. Those reviews down below are worth taking a quick look at.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-560-ti-44... <------ If only they did 1920x1080 on there. That's that MSI gtx 560 ti 448 core (over clocked) vs a gtx 580

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Ti_448_C... <---- there's that MSI card again vs a gtx 580. There's a few more reviews on it also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $294.99 - $264.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti - 448 Cores (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I've basically come full circle to a 560 Ti 448 Core lol. I'm looking at piles and piles of reviews and I think it's going to be to my advantage (playing at a lower resolution) to go with a slightly weaker, cheaper card and save myself the money. Not to mention the $30 rebate from MSI (though the 570 I was looking at was an MSI card as well). Using the 75-ish dollars I save, I can upgrade my PSU to something a little beefier to handle the SLI'ed 560 Ti 448 (though I may or may not go down that route, depending on how much the prices of the 7970/7950 cards drop in the next year). Honestly I don't have to be on the absolute cutting edge of technology. I just want a strong, dependable rig that can play the modern games for the next year or so smoothly on high or ultra setting, at 1080 resolution. It looks like the 560 Ti 448 really is my best bet, and I'll upgrade the PSU to a nice 850W supply.

PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This combination actually saves me a little money. It gives me ample power for future upgrades that might involve SLI/CFX, a wicked case (with the extra 140mm fan in the front so it's nice and chilly), great components, and a GPU that will handle most of the games at high settings for the next year. The grand total comes to $1165.63 without mail-in rebates, and with the rebates it comes down to $1115.63. I think I'll be happy with this combination. I've never owned, worked on, or even seen (in person) as powerful a rig as this one (which is pretty pathetic to be honest), so I'm pretty excited to build it and call it mine. Gonna pull the trigger on this combo tonight or tomorrow so I can get it in by the end of this coming week so I can have all weekend to tinker with it.

I think it should be noted that this was my first thread on the Tom's Hardware forums and I'm pleased with how awesome you guys are. You really made my decisions easier and better with regard to the components I choose, and I feel that if I decide to build a rig, I'll be much more comfortable choosing what I need in order to build the best rig I possibly can. Cheers!
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