Graphic cards?

[Kirunlol]

So i want a good graphic card around the price of the following, even if it is one of the following, i guess what im asking is which graphic card would be better, for hardcore ultra playing games for how much its worth!

CF 6970 or sli 570 or CF 6950 or 3x6950

Also how would you change this computer to make it better "It's not made yet, ordering the pieces some time this week"



Processor: Intel Core i7 2600k

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler

Video Card: CF 6970 or sli 570 or CF 6950 or 3x6950

Power Supply: Silencer Mk II 950W or any 1000 watts for dual cards.

Motherboard: ASUS Z68 Extreme7 Gen3

Operating System: Win 7 Home Premium

Desktop Memory: CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMP16GX3M4A1333C9 (OVERCLOCK TO) 1600 mghz

Hard Drives: Corsair Force Series 3 CSSD-F120GB3A-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Secondary would be a Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

Optical Drive: LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDP118-08
(Or any other)

Case: Cooler Master HAF X ATX Full Tower

 

[fuggles]

Nothing wrong with that system.

That's one of the best I've seen.

Wait until January the ninth when Radeon release the new range, they will be super powerful.

 

[Kirunlol]

Nothing wrong with that system.

That's one of the best I've seen.

Wait until January the ninth when Radeon release the new range, they will be super powerful.

ya but, itll be like 600$ for one, and i doubt one of them will be better than sli or CF

 

[xtreme5]

probably CF has a lot of microstuttering they have good performance but when you set AA/AF o max then your games should be running a little laggy as a result you can't get a real experience so gtx 570 sli can make it good.

 

[ilysaml]

That's true, the HD 7970 is stronger and faster than HD 6970 and coming in Jan, Actually it's been reported that AMD is shipping it nowadays to arrive early in Jan.

The Radeon HD 7970 shows a nice improvement in tessellation performance over previous generation Radeon HD 6970. The overall performance increase is roughly 1.5 times faster in the tests conducted by AMD.

So i guess 2 HD 6970s would match the performance of a single HD 7970, better wait for the new card and see benches then decide which one to take into account.

 

[fuggles]

sure , 570 sli will max everything

both options are great

3x6950 , not sure about this, still will get perfect performance though

I would say go NVIDIA, just because their drivers are better.

 

[Kirunlol]

probably CF has a lot of microstuttering they have good performance but when you set AA/AF o max then your games should be running a little laggy as a result you can't get a real experience so gtx 570 sli can make it good.

So gtx 570 sli is the better choice? Would it be able to run swtor, bf3, crysis 2, and mw3, maybe even WoW, if i go back, on ultra?

 

[ilysaml]

Who said GTX 570s in SLI are a better choice ? a single HD 6970 is stronger and perform faster than a single GTX 570 in most cases.

And the Scaling of HD 6K series is better than the scaling of GTX 5K series, 2 HD 6950s matches the perfromance of 2 GTX 570s in SLI, 2 HD 6970s in CF are beating GTX 570s in SLI.

 

[Kirunlol]

sure , 570 sli will max everything

both options are great

3x6950 , not sure about this, still will get perfect performance though

I would say go NVIDIA, just because their drivers are better.

Do you know which of the 570's brand is worth the money?

 

[Kirunlol]

Who said GTX 570s in SLI are a better choice ? a single HD 6970 is stronger and perform faster than a single GTX 570 in most cases.
http://media.bestofmicro.com/G/J/316819/original/Avg.png
And the Scaling of HD 6K series is better than the scaling of GTX 5K series, 2 HD 6950s matches the perfromance of 2 GTX 570s in SLI, 2 HD 6970s in CF are beating GTX 570s in SLI.

Oh snap, according to the scale / what you said, the 6950's are like 100 dollars cheaper than each, Do you think CF 6950 is already pretty solid, for now-aday games?

 

[ilysaml]

Of course, tell me what's your gaming resolution ?
But you'd be better with 2 HD 6970s for the ultimate performance, I have a single HD 6950 and i play any game @ 1080P @ ultra without any lag, the game is more than playable above 30 FPS, and very smooth @ a constant of 60 FPS. A single HD 6970 drives almost all the games @ 60 FPS with the exception for Crysis 2 & Metro 2033 which requires the power of CF.

I recommend HD 6970s in CF.

 

[Kirunlol]

Of course, tell me what's your gaming resolution ?
But you'd be better with 2 HD 6970s for the ultimate performance, I have a single HD 6950 and i play any game @ 1080P @ ultra without any lag, the game is more than playable above 30 FPS, and very smooth @ a constant of 60 FPS. A single HD 6970 drives almost all the games @ 60 FPS with the exception for Crysis 2 & Metro 2033 which requires the power of CF.

I recommend HD 6970s in CF.

Ima be playing at 1080p too xD Also, i do intent to record using fraps while playing so the fps will be lower for me

 

[fuggles]

I just prefer Nvidia because their drivers are simpler and cause less problems.

 

[xtreme5]

Oh snap, according to the scale / what you said, the 6950's are like 100 dollars cheaper than each, Do you think CF 6950 is already pretty solid, for now-aday games?

hhmm, hd 6970 CF is good but 'm telling you they have a buggy drivers which can avoid to you taste it real performance and yes 570 sli can make every game maxed out without losing a driver or performance i would say find EVGA.

 

[fuggles]

of course these may just be rumours

 

[Kirunlol]

hhmm, hd 6970 CF is good but 'm telling you they have a buggy drivers which can avoid to you taste it real performance and yes 570 sli can make every game maxed out without losing a driver or performance i would say find EVGA.

So your saying the CF 6970 can mess my drivers up / computer?

 

[ilysaml]

@kirunlol
FRAPS is an indicator, if you run it at the background it shows you the min,max,avg FPS you get.

@fuggles
Unfortunately, this is not true. Both companies are great and have a good drivers.

 

[xtreme5]

Of course, tell me what's your gaming resolution ?
But you'd be better with 2 HD 6970s for the ultimate performance, I have a single HD 6950 and i play any game @ 1080P @ ultra without any lag, the game is more than playable above 30 FPS, and very smooth @ a constant of 60 FPS. A single HD 6970 drives almost all the games @ 60 FPS with the exception for Crysis 2 & Metro 2033 which requires the power of CF.

I recommend HD 6970s in CF.

haha! your AMD logo realize to us that your a great fan of AMD so that's why you are forcely suggesting HD cards yes they are powerful but unfortunately they have bad drivers especially when CF'ring they become microstuttering don't you know.

 

[Kirunlol]

of course these may just be rumours


http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-12-20/83a.png


http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/Nvidia-GTX-780-Performance-Estimate.png

According to those charts the 780 is better than the 7970? by like a ton

 

[ilysaml]

@Xtreme5 & fuggles
Look @ HD 6950s/70s CF reviewed here in Toms and any reputable site, no one reported a lag of drivers.
Unlikey, AMD is improving their drivers each time than before starting from the CCC 11.9 to the current one CCC 12.1 preview.

 

[xtreme5]

So your saying the CF 6970 can mess my drivers up / computer?

that's what i'm talking about one of my cousin using hd 6870 CF and he can't maxed out BF3 or even skyrim the max FPS he is getting about 39 still his games looking a little laggy.

 

[ilysaml]

@Xtreme5 i don't have to tell you how many time i recommended GTX cards over HDs, i'm a fan in person, regarding the performance, i recommend the best overall.

And my posts are based on charts and evidences ? what's yours based on ?

 

[xtreme5]

@Xtreme5 & fuggles
Look @ HD 6950s/70s CF reviewed here in Toms and any reputable site, no one reported a lag of drivers.
Unlikey, AMD is improving their drivers each time than before starting from the CCC 11.9 to the current one CCC 12.1 preview.

well, all the forum is fullfil of complaining amd drivers.

 

[ilysaml]

Charts provided by Fuggles is doubtful, the GTX 580 is 20% faster than GTX 570. This makes me suspect the original source.

HD 7970 will be over GTX 580, but with not that marvelous improvement.

 

[ilysaml]

@Xtreme5
So i'd be eager to help those members who experience a performance issues cuz of drivers. Could you please link my to some threads ?