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December 20, 2011 3:04:00 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/335606-33-card-friend-gift-carry-build-coming-soon

I spoke to him yesterday, here is some additional info i got from him:

He is currently getting low 30's in battlefield 3 @ 1440x900.

- Raising resolution drops FPS, so I assume video card bottle neck not cpu?
- he is leaning towards a Nvidia 570
-- he feels that nvidia runs cooler, but i thought they take a more monolithic/high transitor count approach and ATI has them beat on that? Please correct me if I am wrong
-- he doesn't care about 3d
- BATTLEFIELD 3
- BATTLEFIELD 3
- BATTLEFIELD 3
-- Is it not "enhanced for ATI" and thus would get a better gain?

This is on sale today, REALLY would like this to be what I get him, but don't want to give him something he would not like. Price is nice, but I am willing to go higher for the long term gain for his system.(crossfire/sli) Also, it is the 2 gig version AND XFX warranty, so super nice.

XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

This is a LOT more, but is it worth it?
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Really, I am leaning towards the 6950 2 gb because the best graphics cards for the money gives two in xfire a nod.

Lastly, here is his system. Why are his fps so low? I could only think thermal issues, but the board has the cards spaced. Any ideas? would he see a gain going from the dual 4870 to the 6950, or do I need to go to a 570. Just want him to enjoy what I get for him.

motherboard - Asus M4A78-E
Ram - GSkill PC2 8500 - Model #: F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK
CPU - AMD Phenom 2 x4 940
Video- ATI Radeon 4870 x 2
Power Supply - Silencer PC Power and Cooling S75QB 750W ATX12V / EPS12V

Thanks guys. Hoping to order before the Egg sells out.
December 20, 2011 4:06:33 PM

MSI Geforce GTX 560 $150 AR at Newegg -free ship
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1153234/

Battlefield 3 Performance: 30+ Graphics Cards, Benchmarked
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...

XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB
234.99 after mail-in rebate card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.techspot.com/review/458-battlefield-3-perfor...

looks iike 8 frames more for 80.00 bucks ? nvidia overclocks good too and runs cool

http://www.amazon.com/Radeon-XFX-6970-Graphics-Card/dp/...
Radeon XFX HD 6970 2 GB Graphics Card Post-purchase rebate: $30.00 Get forms
Price after rebate: $309.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
same card price
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December 20, 2011 4:40:22 PM

Here we see that the 570 gets 62 and 106 fps (single card / SLI)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...

Here we see the the 6950 gets 61 and 118
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...

Indicating that the 6950 scales better. OTOH, when ya crank up the detail, the 6950 suffers

We drop to 39 fps with the 6950 in Ultra where the 570 only drops to 49 fps
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graph...

The < 40 fps result kills the single 6950 as an option for me.......scaling the 49 fps under Ultra for two 570's I'd estimate 84 fps....scaling the 39 fps for the 6950, I'd estimate 75 fps. But knowing what we know about the 560 900Mhz in SLI they score just 11 fps lower than the 570 in Guru3D's test suite


But before I'd pay $370 for the single 570 and 49 fps under ultra.....I'd go $430 for two 900Mhz 560 Ti's....for something in the low 80s fps

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Plus these buggers can overclock perty high ....here's one at OC' 30+ % at 1070
http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=1201&page=17
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December 20, 2011 4:47:25 PM

Frankly it seems strange to me that he's only getting 30fps on two 4870s at such low resolution. Therefore, I wouldn't assume that upgrading the GPU will fix everything. It might, but it sounds a little low. That PSU seems to be rated fairly decently at Newegg, even though it's not a premium brand. Could it be that the CPU is the bottleneck? Seems unlikely.

Just throwing a caution out there, in case you get a new video card and there's still an issue.
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December 20, 2011 4:52:49 PM

yea really thats quit a premium for a few frames but his mobo won"t sli only crossfire
boy that bites tough choice
toms benchmarking article said any decent modern cpu like he has should be good didn't scale at all with better cpu's
the 4870's run hot and could be drivers?
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December 28, 2011 2:35:36 PM

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