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February 20, 2012 11:42:33 PM

Hey guys i am building my first gaming rig and i just need someone with some experience to look it over for me.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4WvC

and i do plan to 2-way sli my gpu later this year and add another 8gb of ram.
Thanks in advance.

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February 20, 2012 11:55:48 PM

Heres another mobo to look at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... its $204, does the same thing and ASUS boards are a great brand, have a easy to use bios and will overlock your i7 automatically if you want. plus it saves you $50.

You also have a 1200w (great brand i own the same one). i would recommend you making the jump if you end up saving $50 on the mobo and looking into getting a 580. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I went on a rant about it earlier today to someone else comparing the two cards. im just going to copy and paste it from my other thread.

"That being said the 570 you choose is a great card. I had a SC one for about 2 weeks and it will rip though 90% of games on the market today. I ended up trading in a few console games at my local microcenter and got a decent amount of cash and decided to use it towards the gtx 580. Alot of people will say there is not enough of a difference to make to the price jump for the 580 from the 570 but after doing it i disagree. Im just going to give you a quick thought on what i thought of both cards. Yes the 570 is a the best bang for your buck if you want a great card that will play almost all games on max settings its almost overkill on most of them. But if your willing to pay the extra 100 bucks i would highly recommend the 580 if your going to be playing really GPU intensive games like BF3, Crysis and Metro. I honestly saw a 15-20fps jump on some games. BF3 with the 570 i saw an average of 40-45fps with everything maxed out. I have my games locked to 60fps, since im using my Sony Bravia as a display. The high being 60 and low being 30's depending on how much action is going on in the game. With the 580 it is almost 80% of the time locked to 60fps now. With the average of 55-60 and low being 45. Crysis 2 im getting 55fps average on max with dx11 and all the extra packs. Metro im getting about 40-45 with everything on max. Before with the 570 in crysis i was getting 40avg, and metro 30avg. All in all ive seen about a 15-20fps jump with bf3 being the most impressive. Bf3 set everything on high with the 570 automatically, and everything on ultra with the 580. Temp wise 570 SC, idled at 30c and peaked at 65. 580 idles at 30-35 with peak being 70. Noise wise there both the same. Just something to think about from my personal experience with both cards. "
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February 21, 2012 12:31:52 AM

neal0790 said:
Heres another mobo to look at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... its $204, does the same thing and ASUS boards are a great brand, have a easy to use bios and will overlock your i7 automatically if you want. plus it saves you $50.

You also have a 1200w (great brand i own the same one). i would recommend you making the jump if you end up saving $50 on the mobo and looking into getting a 580. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I went on a rant about it earlier today to someone else comparing the two cards. im just going to copy and paste it from my other thread.

"That being said the 570 you choose is a great card. I had a SC one for about 2 weeks and it will rip though 90% of games on the market today. I ended up trading in a few console games at my local microcenter and got a decent amount of cash and decided to use it towards the gtx 580. Alot of people will say there is not enough of a difference to make to the price jump for the 580 from the 570 but after doing it i disagree. Im just going to give you a quick thought on what i thought of both cards. Yes the 570 is a the best bang for your buck if you want a great card that will play almost all games on max settings its almost overkill on most of them. But if your willing to pay the extra 100 bucks i would highly recommend the 580 if your going to be playing really GPU intensive games like BF3, Crysis and Metro. I honestly saw a 15-20fps jump on some games. BF3 with the 570 i saw an average of 40-45fps with everything maxed out. I have my games locked to 60fps, since im using my Sony Bravia as a display. The high being 60 and low being 30's depending on how much action is going on in the game. With the 580 it is almost 80% of the time locked to 60fps now. With the average of 55-60 and low being 45. Crysis 2 im getting 55fps average on max with dx11 and all the extra packs. Metro im getting about 40-45 with everything on max. Before with the 570 in crysis i was getting 40avg, and metro 30avg. All in all ive seen about a 15-20fps jump with bf3 being the most impressive. Bf3 set everything on high with the 570 automatically, and everything on ultra with the 580. Temp wise 570 SC, idled at 30c and peaked at 65. 580 idles at 30-35 with peak being 70. Noise wise there both the same. Just something to think about from my personal experience with both cards. "

thanks for the mobo recommendation but i was originally going to buy that but i was advised by 5 or 6 other people to avoid that at all costs because its life span is generally 6 months. but i may buy that 580 anyway.
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February 21, 2012 1:16:25 AM

-Gaming doesn't require hyperthreading so I'd save $100 and get the 2500k....If ya **can** justify the 2600k cause ya need HT for something else, than the $40 boost for the 2700k shouldn't bother ya. The 2600k has lost its niche with the 2700k so closely priced.

-I can see the 212 in a $1k build but at $1600, I'd include the Hyper 612 PWM ...for an extra 5-7C of cooling

-Can't see a $260 MoBo w/ a chinsy 2 year warranty. $205 and three years for this Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-I'd take the Corsair's over the GSkills
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...|20-233-196^20-233-196-TS%2C20-233-186^20-233-186-TS%2C20-233-199^20-233-199-TS

Ya have a single GTX 570 in there for $340 ..... $680 for two when ya upgrade. That gets you 873 fps in Guru3D's game test suite. Two 900 Mhz 560 Ti's cost just $410 and get ya 862 fps. Plus, the EVGA 570's use a reference VRM which has some issues w/ overclocking.

http://www.overclock.net/t/929152/have-you-killed-a-570...

The 560's OC like hell....up to 30% over reference....and are affordable enuff to start w/ 2 from the getgo.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1104/pg19/asus-ge...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

The 580 gets 616 fps for $90 more than the twin 560's and adding a 2nd 580 in SLI gives ya just 10% more fps than the two 560's ..... I can't see paying 250% of the price for 10% more fps.

Ya have a $400+ combo there for case / PSU.... you don't need anywhere near 1200 watts for twin 560's or twin 570's.... 850 watts is just fine. The following combos are recommended as alternates:

Antec 1200 V3 w/ CP-850 - $255 ....over $150 savings for a setup better suited to your needs.
$120 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$135 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

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[The CP-850] is completely unmatched by any ATX unit on the market I can think of. You'd have to spend twice as much as this thing costs to find the next best thing, performance wise.


http://www.silentpcreview.com/article971-page7.html

Corsair 500R w/ HX850 - $295 ... another excellent pairing
$165 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$130 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HAF-X w/ AX850 - $370 .... Newer version of HAF-932 w/ newer version of X850
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February 21, 2012 1:42:13 AM

When I built my first system the 7800 GT was the best card out, and my budget was much lower. Back then was the same story it is today, even though two 6 series cards might run higher average FPS, the gaming was poor because the FPS was constantly going between 20-70. The experience that dual card setups offer is not smooth, and overall deceptive marketing to an extent in that the visual quality will appear much worse with similar average frame rates to a single more powerful card. I would suggest if you're sinking this much cash into the build to back down to a 2500K and a less expensive mobo/PSU like suggested by others. Put this money towards starting out with a 7970 so that for the foreseeable future you won't have to worry about upgrading it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-stut...
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February 21, 2012 5:39:46 AM

anoriginalname said:
thanks for the mobo recommendation but i was originally going to buy that but i was advised by 5 or 6 other people to avoid that at all costs because its life span is generally 6 months. but i may buy that 580 anyway.


im not to sure who advised you about staying away from the board i recommended but its a great board for the money. Has pci 3.0 for graphics cards when ever they start to use them and will be able to handle the new ivy bridge cpu's when they come out. So it pretty much future proofs the motherboard. No way it would be outdated in 6 months, who ever said that are wrong.

Alot of people recommend buying 2 560's instead of a single 580. You save about a $100, and get a slight bit more performance. But the catch with that is once your ready to upgrade your 560's, your out of options. At least with a 580 you can max everything out now and when the time comes you can pick up another for half the price. I think its wiser to spend the money now on the best card your money can buy and double your performance down the line when you need to. Plus higher end cards have less of a chance to micro-stutter than low grade cards. The 7970 is a more powerful than the 580 and goes for about 60 more but in my opinion nvidea cards are the way to go. They seem to be faster to update drivers and seem to get them right the first time around. Also alot of games are optimized for nvidea cards. AMD cards seem to be known for there driver issue, and cross fire issues. Plus evga doesnt make AMD cards and they really are a step above other manufacturers.
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