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Editing Render Monster! Changing MOBO & Processor, Need your advice

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February 21, 2012 4:22:16 AM

OK, so its been 2 years and I want to upgrade to get my Renders faster.

I am possibly going to go with changing just the MOBO out and the Processor.


So this is what I am thinking of getting for it next week:

Intel BOXDZ68BC LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K

I have a Budget of under $700. I really want the best bang for my buck.


This is what I have now:

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 12GB (6 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601920

ASUS P6X58D Premium LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

LITE-ON DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model iHAS124-04 - OEM

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0

CORSAIR Enthusiast Series CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core ...

SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

(2) SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3EG HD203WI 2TB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

I also have another 2TB Western Digital HDD i believe.

WIndows 7 64 bit Home edition
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February 21, 2012 4:37:41 AM

I see no reason for changing your motherboard and CPU to get faster renders. Where you'll really notice the difference is if you get a faster GPU. You're using a 5750 which is a Home Theater GPU on a rendering workstation. A Fire Pro or NVIDIA Quaddro would be where you would see the most improvements.

Try something like this:

- ATI Fire Pro V7800: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- PNY Quaddro 4000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You should also get an aftermarket cooler and OC your i7-920 - you can take it to 3.2 - 3.7GHz easily and that will create a significant speed boost. Changing out your motherboard and CPU seems a bit ridiculous.
February 21, 2012 4:42:37 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I see no reason for changing your motherboard and CPU to get faster renders. Where you'll really notice the difference is if you get a faster GPU. You're using a 5750 which is a Home Theater GPU on a rendering workstation. A Fire Pro or NVIDIA Quaddro would be where you would see the most improvements.

Try something like this:

- ATI Fire Pro V7800: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- PNY Quaddro 4000: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Thanks for the quick response. I seen a Render test i7 920 vs i72600 and there was a huge difference.
I might be leading you to the wrong rendering process that I am talking about.

When I render out in After effects after putting in so much effects and so forth or when I am on Premier Pro rendering out a video.
I don't know if I lead you in the wrong direction. Do you know what I mean? Isn't that a different kind of editing? Thanks
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February 21, 2012 4:44:17 AM

JoeJITSU said:
Thanks for the quick response. I seen a Render test i7 920 vs i72600 and there was a huge difference.
I might be leading you to the wrong rendering process that I am talking about.

When I render out in After effects after putting in so much effects and so forth or when I am on Premier Pro rendering out a video.
I don't know if I lead you in the wrong direction. Do you know what I mean? Isn't that a different kind of editing? Thanks


I think that goes a bit beyond my expertise.

But you should really go and look at OC'ing your CPU and upgrading your GPU before buying a whole new system.
February 21, 2012 5:15:17 AM

I Overclocked mine to 3.8 and this video is not even the i72600k its the i7 2600. For mine to render that out..it would take mine 3 x longer.
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February 21, 2012 3:32:25 PM

Get this for your motherboard then instead of the Intel. Intel boards are good boards especially for construction and longevity, but they're very bland in the features department. This would be a better choice: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll also need new RAM since that RAM won't work in a dual channel system. Something like one of these:
- Corsair Vengeance 16GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Crucial Ballistix 8GB (x 2 for 16GB): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 21, 2012 4:00:06 PM

Have you thought about going up to the i7-980 instead?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could keep the motherboard and RAM and just upgrade the processor. According to the PassMark Score the i7-980 should be faster than the i7-2600k (both at stock).
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February 21, 2012 4:30:39 PM

1. I wouldn't change from the 920 to a 2600k.....for one, i doubt you'd see any significant difference though you'd have to check specific apps to make sure.

2. If changing the CPU and MoBo, I'd be thinking LGA 2011 MoBo and a 3930k but that exceeds ya budget.

3. Most rendering apps can utilize CUDA an nVidia only technology, Premier Pro certainly does .... having an ATI/AMD GFX card eliminates that option for you.

http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2011/02/cuda...

4. If the box is simply a rendering box, I'd agree with the above post and get a Quaddro card.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe_PremiereproCS5.html
February 22, 2012 1:50:23 AM

I am also thinking of putting the Mac Os on my PC as well to run Final Cut Pro.

The price is pretty crazy on that card and I know that the card I have now is pretty much obsolete for what I am doing now.
Is there any other choice on Video Cards I can do? Thank you so much for the input.
February 22, 2012 3:15:08 AM

Ok folks. This thread got me salivating a bit since this is what I do for a living.

From what I know, you don't need a Quadro unless you plan on doing engineering/3D animation and are positively sure that a workstation class card will accelerate renders/playbacks. I would check with any software you work with to make sure.

I'm not sure where folks are getting the idea where a video card like a quadro can increase renders. For premiere, maybe but you would be out around $1k to get any benefit. For After Effects you would get very little if any boost for that money.

To get the most from Adobe right now you could get a Nvidia GTX 570 which would run the Mercury Playback engine (and many effects in Premiere Pro). I've heard from many people who are rocking that editing box with that processor with render times (especially dealing with H.264 and MP4 footage) being cut down to 1/5-1/10th the time on software render.

The processor you have right now is decent but a little pokey. Here's the shopping list I would get to kick some tail:

I would double the RAM, there is a saying in After Effects. You can never have too much RAM :) 
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I would also buy a NVIDIA GTX 570 card to speed up Premiere Pro (v5.0 and v5.5 only).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you doubt my word, do some googling about Premiere Pro and what it can do with a card like that.

That runs you about $550 or so. What's bonus is that you would be able to transfer the above items to a new cpu motherboard when the time comes.

-Rob
February 22, 2012 4:40:30 PM

Thanks Rob for the input. After doing some research My MOBO is a dead platform. With a 1155 socket there will be newer CPUs released and potential upgrades. We just did a recent test with the same After Effects Render for a 5.6GB clip in 6:33 seconds with the i7 2600k. My i7 920 at 3.8 gz did the same clip in 14:02. To me , that is a big difference. He only had 8gb of RAM on the i7 2600k. So I might also go with the card that you suggested. Thank you much
February 24, 2012 1:54:43 AM

What big difference would it be from 12gb memory to 24gb?
February 24, 2012 2:56:39 AM

After Effects uses the RAM to load the source material to the processor. I would say if you were using HD source material that 2GB per hyperthreaded core would keep things from butting heads. I've got a 980x for my work rig with 24GB of RAM and it flies through HD materials with no RAM bottleneck. I used to have a Mac at my old job that only had 8GB on 16 hyperthreaded cores and it would almost always clunk up on longer renders.

-Rob
February 24, 2012 3:02:07 AM

Sorry, one more point for you. The whole idea of something being a dead platform always struck me wrong really. If the platform continues to give good results (or potential good results in the case of upgrading to a 980) it hardly should be considered dead. The 980x I have (non overclocked at the moment but in the future I plan on doing that) can easily keep up with a 2600k with minimal tweaking. One thing to keep in mind is to wonder why you want to render quicker. If it's to get more work done in less time that's one thing but if it's just to get a quicker render it might be better spent to wait a tad more until say Ivy Bridge comes out.
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