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February 23, 2012 2:14:56 AM

so im going to purchase a barebones kit and build my own computer im looking at this on new egg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...

or

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

not sure on the motherboard on this kit tho^ link above

seems like an awsome deal just wondering about the processor ive read alot of post about the

AMD fx 8120 vs the i5 2500k

my question is is there really any noticable differences were i should wait and get a i5 insted or should i put together my own kit with an i5 in it

this kit is right at the top of my price range so not looking at anything higher up like a i7 cant really afford an i7

also this is for gaming and ive looked at benchmark charts

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8120+Eig...

this site shows the amd winning but ive read alot that sais i5 is hands down better

just want to get some of my own oppinions befor i spend my money
February 23, 2012 2:17:36 AM

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February 23, 2012 2:34:19 AM

i5-2500k is hands-down the best value gaming CPU on the market today. You will not go wrong with that.

The fx8120 may win some straight benchmark tests just because it's an eight-core, but look up some tests for gaming performance and you'll see it getting murdered by four-core Intel Sandy Bridge CPUs. AMD completely screwed the pooch with its new generation of CPUs when it comes to gaming; they may have a lot of raw power, but they're inefficient as hell at using it for games.

The CPU ranking charts on this very site don't even have it within three tiers of the best gaming CPUs on the market; the i5-2500k blows it away, and it gets beaten by last-generation Intel CPUs and some two-generations-ago Intel CPUs, as well as certain last-gen AMD processors. Basically, avoid the hell out of Bulldozer processors until they either fix what's wrong with them or programmers figure out how to design their software to be more friendly with them.
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February 23, 2012 6:45:59 AM

WAlex234 said:
what about this motherboard that comes with this kit ?

MSI H61M-P23 B3 Board

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


That is a cheap ass motherboard, and in fact, I think that whole combo deal has problems. Among the highlights:

- No SATA 6GB/s on the motherboard, so if you ever get a solid-state drive, you won't be able to take full advantage of its speed

- No USB 3.0 on the motherboard

- Cheap graphics card that is almost certainly going to be a bottleneck for that i5-2500k - I'd say you want at least an HD 6950 to have a good balance there

- RAM is on the slow end for DDR3-1333 - timings are 9-9-9-24. For DDR3-1333, you can get 7-7-7 for not a lot more money

I'd say keep the i5-2500k even if you have to buy it separately, and look at some parts like this:

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$48.99

MSI H67A-G43 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel H67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79.99

OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Modular High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$49.99

For a video card, I'd definitely read these ratings first and then decide how much money you are willing to spend:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-car...

HD 6850 - lowest I'd go with that processor if I was on a super-tight budget
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD 6950 or 550 Ti - more suited to the speed of your CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That leaves you with the case and hard drive to consider, but those are no biggie. You might consider a little bit better motherboard than the one I listed if you're going to do anything really advanced, but for general gaming purposes you probably won't notice any difference.

Yes, this is probably going to cost you $100-$200 more than the Tiger Direct kit, mostly because they were able to keep the price of that bundle down by skimping on the video card. One case where you do get what you pay for.
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February 23, 2012 7:14:14 AM

tyvm for this reply is very helpful so i have a gigabyte 550 ti OC atm in my current system so i decided i wanted to put my own system together so all i need is everything minus the card and as far as motherboards go ill have to serch more so that i make sure when i build this i get the most bang for my buck using my takes to get all of this all i got to spend is $600 max

one more question whats a good case that gives good flow for a good price under $100 prefer

and ty again for all this help
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February 23, 2012 6:25:27 PM

Probably my favorite case of all time is the Antec 300. Not only does it have great airflow, but it's super-easy to work with:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You can often find it for less than that at a brick-and-mortar store - the Fry's near my house often has them for, like, $44.99 or $49.99. Cases are one thing where it's definitely worth checking out a local store, since the shipping costs can be a lot (and even if they're listed as free or cheap shipping, it's built into the overall price online).

Definitely keep looking at motherboards, but like I said, stay away from the $200 ones bevause you're wasting your money unless you're planning on doing some advanced stuff, like crossfiring multiple cards, or setting up an absolutely huge RAID array, or overclocking so much that improved northbridge cooling makes a difference, etc. The "elite" boards look cool, but for 99% of people out there, a $75-$100 board is the sweet spot; just make sure it has SATA 6GB/s and USB 3.0 and it'll last you a long time.
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February 23, 2012 10:35:42 PM

I'd put $120-$130 boards in the sweet spot. They're generally the ones that can handle SLI/Xfire, which is an extremely easy and economical upgrade.
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February 24, 2012 12:47:05 AM

kajabla said:
I'd put $120-$130 boards in the sweet spot. They're generally the ones that can handle SLI/Xfire, which is an extremely easy and economical upgrade.


I'd say that's about right, although you can often still find a decent board that supports it for under $100. Yeah, $130 will probably get you a bit better board, but I'm a cheap S.O.B. :) 
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