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June 10, 2012 4:01:08 PM

title says it all. my cpu folding score is extremely low. like at 800 ppd right now on project 7647. im overclocked to 4.5 and its not overheating at all. i have my 6950 going as well and its getting about 9000 ppd. idk if that normal but its a lot better.

what can the problem be?

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June 10, 2012 4:22:44 PM

That's odd... I wonder if maybe you got a bigadv WU or the like. What's the ETA and you TPF on it?

I ask because if I go to http://linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php and enter that project, and input an average TPF which I've been seeing for my CPU folding... it calculates some outlandish 400k+ PPD.
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June 10, 2012 4:44:26 PM

pdxalex said:
That's odd... I wonder if maybe you got a bigadv WU or the like. What's the ETA and you TPF on it?

I ask because if I go to http://linuxforge.net/bonuscalc2.php and enter that project, and input an average TPF which I've been seeing for my CPU folding... it calculates some outlandish 400k+ PPD.


it says its a smp8 and its eta is 6 days at 2 hours 20 mins tpf and project #7467
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June 10, 2012 5:01:26 PM

Do you have any flags set?

I'd probably cancel the WU by deleting the SMP slot in config and setting up a new one... and hope I get something more suited to the machine. That looks like some kind of bigadv WU.
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June 10, 2012 6:26:45 PM

pdxalex said:
Do you have any flags set?

I'd probably cancel the WU by deleting the SMP slot in config and setting up a new one... and hope I get something more suited to the machine. That looks like some kind of bigadv WU.


what is a flag. im new to all of this stuff. ill delete and start a new one.
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June 10, 2012 6:48:47 PM

i cant get it to stop. i clicked finish and its said finishing for about 20 minutes.
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June 10, 2012 6:56:18 PM

'Finish' will still process the WU until it's done. Go to 'configure' > 'slots', select SMP and remove it.

(need to be in either Advanced or Expert mode)
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June 10, 2012 7:05:58 PM

im up to 5k now after 2.5% and ive already got a passcode and done more then 10 WU's so im getting those bonuses. this is weird because i should be getting over 20k on the cpu alone...
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June 12, 2012 2:34:10 AM

im now getting around 18-22 average but have seen up to 26k. are these normal. and also my gpu is constant at 8900.
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June 12, 2012 2:49:29 AM

In one post you say you should be getting 20k on your cpu alone (like you really know what your doing and what you should get) and in the next your asking 'is this normal' (like you haven't a clue)... You're very confusing imo.
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June 12, 2012 4:03:05 AM

popatim said:
In one post you say you should be getting 20k on your cpu alone (like you really know what your doing and what you should get) and in the next your asking 'is this normal' (like you haven't a clue)... You're very confusing imo.

Im probably confusing because im confused lol.

it seems like i am in the right ball park just want some verification. is there any tricks or secrets that i could be informed on?

also i decided that from what i read i should get about 28k from cpu alone and about 20k from cpu + a gpu and if my gpu will get about 9k then id rather save the electricity and go just cpu but after finishing and deleting the gpu slot my smp8 process will only use 7 threads. is that because thats what the slot started out at and cant go higher or what?
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June 12, 2012 6:38:42 AM

If you're wanting to run with only full SMP, click 'finish' so it won't automatically start folding a new WU. When it's done, edit your SMP slot in config and set it to 8. You previously weren't able to run 8 due to your ATI/AMD GPU. You'll probably have to quit and restart the program for it to take effect.

Actually, it may work if you just pause it too. Pause, edit, quit, restart.
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June 12, 2012 3:58:58 PM

There can be a pretty big variation of PPD depending on the WU you are processing

on F@H forums I saw Grandpa_01 : i7 2700K @ 4.8Ghz smp gets between 12,000 (WU 7611) and 27,000 (WU 803x) PPD

so it sounds like you are floating around the right ballpark

in the past using Hyperthreading while folding was beneficial, but currently running SMP on all virtual cores will actually hurt your PPD - as they do not have floating point registers and the extra workload falls to your Physical cores slowing the overall processing of WU's
as you get a disproportionately large reward for Fast completion of WU's... running hyperthreaded SMP cores looses you the Fast completion even though you do more work.

People often reduce the number of virtual cores running by 2+ to improve distribution of system resources and does not lower PPD + can improve it.

If you want to use your (ATi) GPU you must set aside a CPU core to "speak" to you Ati/AMD 6950 or you will get Very Low SMP PPD
The Spare unused virtual cores are enough to help feed the 6950 successfully I believe

Soon i need to upgrade my system, more PPD and less power usage, electricity costs too much here in the UK...
am currently stuck on those nasty 7611 SMP projects for the last 2 days, has lowered my PPD by maybe 20%

Well, have an experiment and good luck on your folding :) 
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June 12, 2012 8:41:01 PM

Pailin said:
There can be a pretty big variation of PPD depending on the WU you are processing

on F@H forums I saw Grandpa_01 : i7 2700K @ 4.8Ghz smp gets between 12,000 (WU 7611) and 27,000 (WU 803x) PPD

so it sounds like you are floating around the right ballpark

in the past using Hyperthreading while folding was beneficial, but currently running SMP on all virtual cores will actually hurt your PPD - as they do not have floating point registers and the extra workload falls to your Physical cores slowing the overall processing of WU's
as you get a disproportionately large reward for Fast completion of WU's... running hyperthreaded SMP cores looses you the Fast completion even though you do more work.

People often reduce the number of virtual cores running by 2+ to improve distribution of system resources and does not lower PPD + can improve it.

If you want to use your (ATi) GPU you must set aside a CPU core to "speak" to you Ati/AMD 6950 or you will get Very Low SMP PPD
The Spare unused virtual cores are enough to help feed the 6950 successfully I believe

Soon i need to upgrade my system, more PPD and less power usage, electricity costs too much here in the UK...
am currently stuck on those nasty 7611 SMP projects for the last 2 days, has lowered my PPD by maybe 20%

Well, have an experiment and good luck on your folding :) 


best answer to you.

you basically covered what i was looking for. i am in the ball park as ive completed 2 11k jobs since 11 last night and am hovering around 25k right now.
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June 12, 2012 10:03:08 PM

why thank you :) 

I finally got off that nasty string of 7611 SMP projects (2935 PPD)... now on a 7010 - giving my SMP PPD about 6,000
and my 5850 is pulling about 6,500 on the 11293 project.
Makes for my Best overall PPD so far of around 12,000 once it settles down ^^



Just to add one thing for others...
...NVidia GFx cards do not have the need of the extra CPU core or virtual cores to feed them data, is something only ATi cards require
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June 12, 2012 10:52:58 PM

Best answer selected by cbrunnem.
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June 12, 2012 10:58:00 PM

one last thing. i saw somewhere where you could see someones ppd on a graph and there projected ppd in like a zone of the graph. anyone know where to see that.
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