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February 23, 2012 12:07:40 PM

hi i hope this is in the right section, i really need help , i have ordered a custom pc and think i may have made a few mistakes. i just want to be able to play the latest games eg bf3, mw3 etc. I have been a console gamer for many years and am looking to make the leap to pc gaming, so i want the games and framerates to be better than on ps3 and 360. will this computer achieve that??

amd am3+ x6 fx-6100 cpu
asus m5a97 970/sb950 am3 ddr3 motherboard
g skill 4gb ddr3 1333 ram
hitachi 3.5'' deskstar 500gb sata hdd
aerocool aero engine tower case
aero cool e85-550 watt psu
gainward 1gb gtx560 vga card

any insight will be greatly appreciated. total cost is $781. have i been ripped off? and more importantly will it do what i want it to? thanks heaps!!

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February 23, 2012 12:14:00 PM

Whats your total budget? If you really want gaming performance you will probably want to go with an Intel CPU over AMD.
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February 23, 2012 12:18:38 PM

You did not mention what monitor or resolution, but you should be good for up to 1920x1080 at mostly high settings. This recent Tom's article should be of interest. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...

The price is a little high, but consider they are charging you to build it and provide a warranty. I am unfamiliar with the PSU brand, but if the specs are truthful, you should be fine with even a slightly higher end vid card.
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February 23, 2012 12:20:45 PM

im pretty much on the limit. i was going to go with i5 2500, but because of cost changed, the guy i spoke to said it was pretty much equivelant but $50 cheaper. is that not accurate? what will i be losing out on? thanks again. its all pretty overwhelming and im sure you see these questions a thousand times a day on here. I dont even have a OS in the cost lol, gonna have to install that myself, they wanted 95 bucks for that aswell. so yeah, pushing the budget to its limits to try and get something that will look better than a games console.
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February 23, 2012 12:25:24 PM

tlmck said:
You did not mention what monitor or resolution, but you should be good for up to 1920x1080 at mostly high settings. This recent Tom's article should be of interest. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-4100-core-i3-210...

The price is a little high, but consider they are charging you to build it and provide a warranty. I am unfamiliar with the PSU brand, but if the specs are truthful, you should be fine with even a slightly higher end vid card.


yeah, the guy i spoke to said the psu was important, it was 100 bucks, looks like i did the right thing not skimping on that then. can i just hook it up to my plasma? lol, if not i have a 22 inch lcd display im using for regular use, think its 1366x 768. the plasma is 51inches and full hd.
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February 23, 2012 12:26:38 PM

Hello.
A few days ago I would say to you that your pc would be bottlenecked from your cpu.
But today an article at tom's hardware show that the bottleneck that a bulldozer FX can do is not that much, if you have a gpu of HD6870's/GTX560 magnitude and less.
My only objection is your RAM. The same ram you bought at 8gb costs at worst $14 more ( G.skill 2x2GB DDR3 1333 vs G.skill 2x4GB DDR3 1333 ), so you could add +4GB.

Generally your new PC is fine and will play most games at high settings at 1920x1080 and it will destroy any console port (all max settings at 1080p with 60fps like kingdoms of amalur: reckoning.).

Have fun with your new pc :) .
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February 23, 2012 12:28:39 PM

Here is another article relating to that. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

I think the guy just needed to move some AMD CPUs. Even overclocked to the max, AMD makes no CPU in the same class as a Core i5. The i5-2400 is a better deal as it is only 10% slower than the 2500. The difference is not really noticeable in games.
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February 23, 2012 12:32:29 PM

mick500 said:
can i just hook it up to my plasma? lol, if not i have a 22 inch lcd display im using for regular use, think its 1366x 768. the plasma is 51inches and full hd.

1366x768? You would waste your system but if you want to do some work like run office etc... it should be fine, otherwise for movies and gaming stick with your plasma :D .
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February 23, 2012 12:38:16 PM

tlmck said:
Here is another article relating to that. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

I think the guy just needed to move some AMD CPUs. Even overclocked to the max, AMD makes no CPU in the same class as a Core i5. The i5-2400 is a better deal as it is only 10% slower than the 2500. The difference is not really noticeable in games.


mick500 said:
i have ordered a custom pc


I thought he already bought it. But if you didn't ordered already I agree with timck, go with the i5-2400 and Z68 mobo. It is faster and will have much more future potentials.
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February 23, 2012 12:38:17 PM

tlmck said:
Here is another article relating to that. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

I think the guy just needed to move some AMD CPUs. Even overclocked to the max, AMD makes no CPU in the same class as a Core i5. The i5-2400 is a better deal as it is only 10% slower than the 2500. The difference is not really noticeable in games.


so the difference with the i5 will show up for general web browsing speed? the guy was probz feeding off what i was saying about being more concerned with gaming and price. my current computer is balls, like , laughable but i have got by because i havent used it for gaming so the new computer is still going to seem like a rocket ship to the moon even for web browsing compared to this one i think. this computer is a asus eeepc lol, 1.6ghz 0.99 ram, do i need to say more? lol. i am out of my depth haha.
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February 23, 2012 12:41:17 PM

yeah, i have ordered and put down the deposit , but its not being put together until the weekend so i still have time to call up and make some revisions. probz wouldn't be the most popular guy in the world, but if its necessary i will do it.
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February 23, 2012 12:46:15 PM

would the i3 2130 with Z68-Pro3Gen3 be better or worse than what i currently have?
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February 23, 2012 12:49:36 PM

mick500 said:
yeah, i have ordered and put down the deposit , but its not being put together until the weekend so i still have time to call up and make some revisions. probz wouldn't be the most popular guy in the world, but if its necessary i will do it.

well then if you can re-order an i5 + a z68 mobo (and add a little more ram) it will be great. I think you can change the FX6100 to i5 2400 and still be under the $800 price tag.
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February 23, 2012 12:54:11 PM

mick500 said:
would the i3 2130 with Z68-Pro3Gen3 be better or worse than what i currently have?


It will be faster on gaming for sure. And if in the future you would want to change to a better gpu (maybe in two years) you will see better performance on core i3 2130 3,4Ghz than on FX6100.
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February 23, 2012 12:59:22 PM

the amd is $158, the i5 2400 is $191. and the difference in mobo's is $12. so it would be $45 more. I know its not much, If it means the difference then i will make it happen, i know this is probably a tough/ impossible question to answer but what would be the benefit of swapping to your suggestion (i know its not jus your opinion, after reading on here i see everyone reccommends the i5) like, is it framerate, graphics or just processing power? again thanks.
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February 23, 2012 1:07:43 PM

alrite, i think i am convinced. one last question then, is there any difference in the 3 motherboards here?.. AsRock Z68M-USB3 / Z68 Pro3-M / Z68-Pro3Gen3. oh and final final question, will it all be compatable if i make those changes?
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February 23, 2012 1:09:39 PM

mick500 said:
yeah, the guy i spoke to said the psu was important, it was 100 bucks, looks like i did the right thing not skimping on that then. can i just hook it up to my plasma? lol, if not i have a 22 inch lcd display im using for regular use, think its 1366x 768. the plasma is 51inches and full hd.


If your paying 100 bucks for a 550W PSU you are getting ripped off....Here is a 650W from Corsair (a much better known brand), 80 bucks after mail-in-rebate, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 23, 2012 1:18:03 PM

Lokster1 said:
If your paying 100 bucks for a 550W PSU you are getting ripped off....Here is a 650W from Corsair (a much better known brand), 80 bucks after mail-in-rebate, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


they have this for $97, .. Corsair GS-600, would that be better? lol, im gonna end up with a completely different/ better? pc haha.
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February 23, 2012 1:22:16 PM

mick500 said:
they have this for $97, .. Corsair GS-600, would that be better? lol, im gonna end up with a completely different/ better? pc haha.


If its the same cost as your original one, then yes go with the Corsair
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February 23, 2012 1:25:13 PM

mick500 said:
they have this for $97, .. Corsair GS-600, would that be better? lol, im gonna end up with a completely different/ better? pc haha.


Go with Corsair GS-600. It is a great psu , made by Channel Well, which is in my opinion the best psu manufacturer.
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February 23, 2012 1:27:23 PM

thanks, what is a good motherboard then? i saw z68 is what im looking for, but jus realised there are alot more than the 3 z68 motherboards i posted..
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February 23, 2012 1:39:00 PM

mick500 said:
thanks, what is a good motherboard then? i saw z68 is what im looking for, but jus realised there are alot more than the 3 z68 motherboards i posted..


ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 is atm the best bang for buck since it has everything (PCI3,USB3,SATA3, SLI+XFIRE) and costs only $120. A cheapest solution if you dont care about SLI is ASRock Z68 PRO3 GEN3 at $105.
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February 23, 2012 1:47:16 PM

yeah, dont think i will be buying a 2nd graphics card anytime soon so i assume that means the z68 pro3 gen3 is the best fit for me at that price range?
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February 23, 2012 1:49:12 PM

mick500 said:
yeah, dont think i will be buying a 2nd graphics card anytime soon so i assume that means the z68 pro3 gen3 is the best fit for me at that price range?

Well, Z68 + PCI3,USB3,SATA3, I dont think you can find so many features elsewhere at $105.
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February 23, 2012 1:54:04 PM

nice. i do like to back up my 360 games lol, i use a ihas internal burner connected by sata to usb from a external enclosure, that shouldnt be a issue should it? is there any way to like +rep you guys for helping or something similar?
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February 23, 2012 2:04:24 PM

mick500 said:
nice. i do like to back up my 360 games lol, i use a ihas internal burner connected by sata to usb from a external enclosure, that shouldnt be a issue should it?

Well this shouldnt be an issue since a dvd rw speeds of lets say 16x is like 20mbytes/sec while usb2 is up to 60mbyte/sec. So, you will not have a problem (I am not even mentioning usb1.0 and usb1.1, I dont think they are making DVD RW with that connection anymore.)
mick500 said:
is there any way to like +rep you guys for helping or something similar?

To be honest, most people at the community love to share their knowledge in order to help other people. Some of them (like me), they are doing it on their daily life too. You dont need reps or w/e to do what you like :) . But choosing the best answer is something pretty easy and costs nothing :) 
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February 23, 2012 9:06:20 PM

Best answer selected by mick500.
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