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February 23, 2012 10:52:37 PM

Right this is my first build and looking for some advice. I will use the pc for playing recent games on hopefully reasonably high settings, the pc will also be used to edit photos and videos, watch HD films and general use, i tend to do a LOT of multi tasking and use dual monitors.

before anyone mentions it i CANNOT afford an i5 2500k system as am pushing my finances with this idea.

My current idea is this:

MOBO: http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-sabertooth-990fx-am3-...

Processor: http://www.dabs.com/products/amd-fx-6100-am3--3-3ghz-14... (will be £100 with the £15 off, using the money i save here in comparison to a intel system to buy a better graphics card. However torn between this and Phenom 960T.

Ram: Best i can afford after mobo and cpu, aiming for a MAXIMUM of £300 for mobo cpu and ram.

CPU cooler: will consider this if i decide to oc.

Case: http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/cas...

PSU and HDD: already owned.

Graphics card : Reccomendations for under £200, was thinking http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-geforce-gtx-560-ti-82...


many thanks for any help, and apologies for any ignorance.




EDIT/UPDATE: okay so a decent i5 2500k with futureproof mobo and ram combo would cost around £300, whereas i could get an fx6100 with ram and an am3+ mobo for around £200....

getting the i5 would involve waiting a month or so for the monies.... is it worth the wait ?

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February 24, 2012 7:15:06 AM

This article might be of assistance. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-fx-pentium-a...

With that and your budget in mind, I would suggest the following:

Core i5-2400 - £149.98 - http://www.dabs.com/products/intel-core-i5-2400-3-10ghz...

ASUS z68 motherboard - £74.98 - http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p8z68-v-lx-s1155-inte...

ram - 8gb DDR3 1333 - £33.48 - http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-8gb--2-x-4g...

As you can see the mobo/CPU/ram is well under £300 as would be a i5-2500k. However, the 2400 will be fine for what you are doing, and is only 10% slower at stock speed than the 2500k. Of course if you want to overclock, then the 2500k is the choice.

The Intel rig will allow for a better upgrade path should you decide you need it.

The vid card is fine. Hopefully your PSU is at least in the 500w range and preferably at least 80 Plus Certified. If you wind up needing a new PSU, the Novatech Powerstations are pretty good.
February 24, 2012 12:10:00 PM

Hi cheers for the advice, suppose im going to have to buckle down and go intel even though i like the look of the FX range :p 

well with what you just suggested ill have about £50 left would you recommend spending that on a better gpu or upgrading the motherboard so its more OCable and will cope better when it comes to ivybridge ?
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February 24, 2012 12:25:21 PM

That motherboard will fill all your OC needs no matter what your price point is for a z68. Add the extra 50 to a GPU. Absolutely.
February 24, 2012 12:49:32 PM

Even th low end ASUS or Gigabyte boards will overclock easily. The reason to upgrade the mobo would be if you planned on doing dual vid cards later. That one has 1 PCIe slot at x16 and the other at x4. For Dual cards you want one that will run dual cards at x8 each. Something like this. I missed it earlier. Actually a better deal. http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-z68x-ud3p-s1155-i...

The next vid card up the chain is the GTX 570 which is quite a jump in price, but also a very good card. You would also need a 550w PSU for a single 570, and a 750w for eventual dual 570s.
February 24, 2012 1:30:30 PM

why have i not seen that site before?! :p 

mmmm whats that motherboard like though, would it be Ivy compatible for future upgrades ?
February 24, 2012 1:42:14 PM

Unless it is Gen3, AFAIK, it won't be.
February 24, 2012 1:50:26 PM

That MOBO won't support IB.
February 24, 2012 2:10:58 PM

okay so a decent i5 2500k with futureproof mobo and ram combo would cost around £300, whereas i could get an fx6100 with ram and an am3+ mobo for around £200....

getting the i5 would involve waiting a month or so for the monies.... is it worth the wait ?
February 24, 2012 2:15:05 PM

You could also drop down to an i3-2120 if you never plan on overclocking. Even that is better than the FX 6100.
February 24, 2012 2:17:23 PM

i can see myself overclocking at some point in the future as this build is going to need to last me through university and hopefully cope with the games that will appear over those 3/4 years :) 
February 24, 2012 2:19:41 PM

Hmm, in that case, you might just have to go with AMD.
February 24, 2012 2:23:42 PM

i know that intel are the better processors currently, but is the FX range actually bad or just not AS good?
February 24, 2012 2:26:26 PM

They are both bad and not as good. Even the AMD Phenom II 965BE beats the FX Bulldozers.
February 24, 2012 2:30:51 PM

so the fx6100 probably wont last me a few years in terms of games ? even if the new games are multi threaded? ergo the morale of the story is wait a month or a few.... and get an intel system?
February 24, 2012 2:34:10 PM

suppose i could just get a MOBO that will support piledriver and hope for the best....
February 24, 2012 2:40:58 PM

If you can wait, it would be good, but it's kind of hard to wait then realize something else is being released and wind up waiting again.
February 24, 2012 2:43:15 PM

I want a pc that will handle games for a few years, AND I WANT IT SOON. haha

buuttt i suppose i should wait then.
February 24, 2012 2:46:08 PM

ceejay93 said:
suppose i could just get a MOBO that will support piledriver and hope for the best....

as i recall none of the current mobos will support piledriver, but since there aren't any released piledrivers that isn't known for sure
February 24, 2012 2:50:37 PM

i was under the impression that 990x AM3+ mobos were piledriver compatible?
February 24, 2012 9:52:41 PM

ceejay93 said:
okay so a decent i5 2500k with futureproof mobo and ram combo would cost around £300, whereas i could get an fx6100 with ram and an am3+ mobo for around £200....

getting the i5 would involve waiting a month or so for the monies.... is it worth the wait ?

The motherboard, CPU, and ram you originally posted is nearly the same price combined, and is not even in the same class as the i5 system.

Even when overclocked, "any" AMD processor is only on par with a Core i3.
February 24, 2012 10:14:33 PM

I know the price delima.. I was in the same boat. But to be honest man your better off ( future proof ) with saving that extra bit for the i5 2500k Processor.. You WONT regret it.. Id also suggest this mobo
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Even if you skimp alittle bit on something else.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is the video card i was going to get ( Has great reviews on Tomshardware for budget GPU)

If you look at the reviews on Newegg for the I5 2500k You'll see what i mean.. This processor KICKS ANYTHING around it at this price range.. If you plan on overclocking, some i hear have reached 4.9ghz but will be able to pull 4.0ghz No problem.. Just my advise


ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
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