Help buying new pc

[bullzeye82]

hi all, im going to be getting a new pc in 2 weeks i have £800 to spend

i dont know much about pcs anymore as i havent upgraded mine in 4 years,

alot of people i know use this site for pc parts. WWW.SCAN.CO.UK just wondering what your thoughts are on the prices

i want it to be a gaming pc only i only need a tower.

would like to play bf3 on ultra high settings, would this be possible with my budget?

would it be better buying one of these off ebay at my budget

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIBOX-SPEED-B1-INTEL-i7-QUAD-CORE-GT-440-1GB-GAMING-PC-/190525335666?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c5c31e872

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VIBOX-iQ-S18-INTEL-i7-2600-WINDOWS-7-ATI-RADEON-HD-6670-16GB-RAM-2TB-GAMING-PC-/190600758434?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item2c60b0c4a2

any help appreciated

 

[ali2837]

those are bad, this is a better, scan g30 (http://www.scan.co.uk/value-systems#Cat137)

 

[bullzeye82]

thanks ali, any perticular reason why those ebay pcs are bad?

 

[Uther39]

thanks ali, any perticular reason why those ebay pcs are bad?

Both have pretty trashy GPUs.

Would you not build yourself ?

 

[bullzeye82]

Both have pretty trashy GPUs.

Would you not build yourself ?

yes i would build myself, do you think i could build myself a better pc from scan, than the g30 there offering allready built?

any other places cheaper than scan? i want the best i can possibly get for £800

 

[Uther39]

As you can see below you get a massively better system if your willing to build the PC yourself. All the below parts are from scan

Intel Core i5 2500K Unlocked, S1155, Sandy Bridge, Quad, 3.3GHz, HD3000 IGP 850Mhz, 6MB Cache, 95W OEM
£136.15 £163.38
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-2500k-unlocked-s1155-sandy-bridge-quad-33ghz-hd3000-igp-850mhz-6mb-cache-95w-oem
Asus P8Z68-V LX, Intel Z68, S 1155, DDR3, SATA III - 6Gb/s, SATA RAID, PCIe 2.0 (x16), D-Sub/ DVI-D/ HDMI, ATX
£63.68 £76.42
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/asus-p8z68-v-lx-intel-z68-s-1155-ddr3-sata-iii-6gb-s-sata-raid-pcie-20-(x16)-d-sub-dvi-d-hdmi-atx
8GB (2x4GB) Kingston DDR3 HyperX Genesis Grey, PC3-12800 (1600), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-27, XMP, 1.5V
£29.80 £35.76
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)-kingston-ddr3-hyperx-genesis-grey-pc3-12800-(1600)-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-9-9-9-27-xmp-1
1TB Western Digital WD10EARX Caviar Green, SATA 6Gb/s, IntelliPower, 64MB Cache, 8ms, Quiet
£73.10 £87.72
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-western-digital-wd10earx-caviar-green-sata-6gb-s-intellipower-64mb-cache-8ms-quiet
Samsung WriteMaster SH-S222BB/BEBE 22x DVD±R, 12x DVD±R, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM
£10.98 £13.18
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/samsung-writemaster-sh-s222bb-bebe-22x-dvdr-12x-dvdr-dvdplusrw-x8-rw-x6-sata-black-oem
620W Antec Neo Eco Modular PSU 82%Eff', 80 PLUS Bronze, SLI/CrossFire, EPS 12V, Quiet Fan, ATX *Scan Exclusive*
£53.62 £64.34
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/620w-antec-neo-eco-modular-psu-82eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire-eps-12v-quiet-fan-atx-scan-exclusi
Coolermaster Elite 430, All Black, Mid Tower Case with Side Window 120mm Front LED Blue Fan w/o PSU
£32.89 £39.47
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-elite-430-all-black-mid-tower-case-with-side-window-120mm-front-led-blue-fan-and-120mm-
Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, 4 Heat Pipes Direct Contact, with 120mm Quiet Fan LGA775/1155/1156/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3/FM1
£19.98 £23.98
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaster-hyper-212-evo-4-heat-pipes-direct-contact-with-120mm-quiet-fan-lga775-1155-1156-1366-am
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit SP1, Operating System, Single, - OEM
£60.07 £72.08
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/microsoft-windows-7-home-premium-64-bit-sp1-operating-system-single-oem
1280MB Palit GTX 560 Ti, 40nm, 3800MHz GDDR5, GPU 732MHz, Shader 1464MHz, 448 Cores, 2x Dual Link DVI-I/ DP/ HDMI
£174.56 £209.47
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-palit-gtx-560-ti-40nm-3800mhz-gddr5-gpu-732mhz-shader-1464mhz-448-cores-2x-dual-link-dvi-i-dp

Total£802.58

 

[Uther39]

So your getting a better hard drive and more importantly a better GPU and a better CPU cooler which will enable you to OC your machine easily, oh and not forgetting a much better modular Antec PSU with 620w

 

[bullzeye82]

thanks alot for your help uther , is that alot better than the g30 then? i think i will purchse them seperate from the links, good buy? thanks alot man!

 

[Uther39]

No worries my friend, by the way ive always bought from Scan and they are very good indeed.

And yes the above will be a better gaming PC than the g30 as it has the 448core core version of the 560ti instead of the regular 384core 560ti that the g30 has.

Plus with the Antec modular 620w PSU you will have the power to upgrade to a better GPU in the future if you so wish.

 

[bullzeye82]

i allready have my own OS so i can save £72 , with this save would you get a better cpu or gpu?

 

[Uther39]

Oh and be sure to come back and tell us how your build went.

 

[Uther39]

OOOO better GPU. give me a mo and ill see.

 

[Uther39]

OK get rid of the OS and the 560ti from that list and instead buy this

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1280mb-msi-gtx-570-twin-frozr-iii-power-edition-oc-40nm-4000mhz-gddr5-gpu-770mhz-shader-1540mhz-plus

Which means you have now an even better GPU, infact this card destroys games at 1080p.

 

[bullzeye82]

brilliant, im going to favourite this thread so i dont loose it , i dont get paid till end of month, but ill defo be coming to let you know how i get on, im really exited lol!!

again thanks uther, you have been a great help, appreciate it

 

[bullzeye82]

would this pc with upgraded gpu you linked me be able to handle FSx on max settings?

 

[Uther39]

What res are you going to be playing at ?

 

[bullzeye82]

well i only have a crappy monitor for the time being, so nothin spectactular res wise, 1240 x 1024 is max i think for this monitor

 

[bullzeye82]

also will i need any xtra colling fans for the case? just had some good news, so look like i can go on purchase this pc tomorrow! happy days

 

[Uther39]

Yes it will max out FSX at your res and up to 1080p.

It has one fitted in the front but if you can afford it i would reccomend buying another 4 of these
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/120mm-coolermaster-sickleflow-blue-led-quiet-case-fan
for the rear exhaust, side intake and top 2 exhaust mounts this will keep your system icy cool.

 

[Uther39]

Oh and when you can afford it treat yourself to one of these puppys to make use of all that new PC hardware you have.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/24-benq-g2420hd-wide-lcd-monitorhdmi-dvi-d-5msglossy-black-10001dcr-senseye-plus-photoimage

 

[bullzeye82]

thanks again, i think ill grab them 4 fans too, will i have enough sockets on my MB to plug them all in?

also the cpu fan you linked me too, will that be easy to fit on the MB you linked me too

 

[Uther39]

Yes they will fit.

 

[will_chellam]

OR, a radeon HD 6970 for the same price, virtually nothing to split them apart from added features - if you're thinking about 3d go with nvidia, if you're wanting eyefinity go with AMD.

 

[bullzeye82]

ok just want to make sure i get things right, i built the pc im using now 4 years ago, not built one since lol

 

[bullzeye82]

OR, a radeon HD 6970 for the same price, virtually nothing to split them apart from added features - if you're thinking about 3d go with nvidia, if you're wanting eyefinity go with AMD.

never even thought about 3d! so the 2nd card uther linked me too is capable of 3d too?