yeah I'm not really concerned if I can OC or not. I don't think I really do enough that its necessary. But if the world ended in a few months and half life 3 was released I'd like to know I could play it without many hiccups with a decent gfx card and a good processor. From the many graphs on this website that I have seen, intel seems the way to go until amd gets their act together. I'm looking at getting good minimum frame rates anyways compared to the fx 4100 if I go with intel. I suppose my questions rather like "Whats the best out of the two best, the one thats overclockable or the one that isn't.
3450 it seems to be then :P