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February 24, 2012 3:01:04 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: March

Budget Range: $2000-$2300

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Browsing, School Work

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor and case.

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: www.newegg.ca / http://www.bestdirect.ca / http://www.directcanada.com

Country: Canada

Parts Preferences: intel / Corsair / anything that has a good reputation

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes, in the future.

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080


I will be setting up Eyefinity in the future, probably in a few months after the purchase of all the parts, as of right now i'm going to be only using 1x Graphic Card and 1x Monitor so in this build don't include the second graphic card and the other 2x monitors. I was also planning on waiting for ivy bridge but i really need a computer right now for school and also for gaming, my current computer is just to old and cant run any recent games.

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Case:
Corsair Obsidian Series 800D Full Tower Case EATX 5X5.25 4X3.5 Hotswappable 2X3.5INT No PS USB 1394
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC9686&v...

Don't include the case in the budget i'm going to purchase this in a local retailer just posting it up incase someone might have other suggestions for another case.

CPU:
Intel Core i7 3930K 6 Core 12MB 3.2GHZ Hyperthreading Unlocked LGA2011 Processor No HSF
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/ [...] 30K/Intel/

Mobo:
ASUS Rampage IV EXTREME/BF3 E-ATX LGA2011 X79 DDR3 SATA3 USB3.0 5PCI-E16 SLI CrossFireX Motherboard
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530BD4629

Or i might go with

ASRock X79 EXTREME9 ATX LGA2011 DDR3 5PCI-E16 1PCI-E SATA3 USB3.0 SLI CrossFireX Motherboard
www.bestdirect.ca/products/240308/X79%20Extreme9/ASRock...

CPU Fan:
Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100 Extreme Performance CPU Cooler System LGA1366 2011 1156 AM2 AM3
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC7448

Power Supply:
Corsair Professional HX850W 850W ATX 12V 70A 24PIN ATX Modular Power Supply Active PFC 140MM Fan
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC2373

Graphic Card:
Sapphire Radeon Hd 7970 925MHZ 3GB 5.5GHZ GDDR5 Dvi Hdmi 2XMINIDISPLAYPORT PCI-E Video Card
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14080BD2881

Memory:
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4X1866C9R Vengeance 16GB 4X4GB DDR3-1866 CL9-10-9-27 Quad Channel Memory Kit
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC5904

OR

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CMP16GX3M4X1866C9
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

HDD:
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=25350DR0783

SDD:
Mushkin Chronos 240GB 2.5IN SATA3 Sandforce SF-2281 SSD Solid State Disk Flash Drive
http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=30170DR2463
I think i'll only be using this to install games onto it and install my OS onto the HDD.

DVD:
LITE-ON Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model iHDS118-04 - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6827106276

OS:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Edition 64BIT DVD SP1 OEM (Would have went with home but it has a limit of 16gb of ram)
http://www.directcanada.com/produc [...] =MICROSOFT

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February 24, 2012 3:09:01 PM

NEVER use more than 8gb for games, EVER. most games only use 4-6gb and 8gb is the sweet spot. Same with i7. Hyperthreading is not gonna be utilized for gaming for many many years. Save the big amount of cash for a SB system. Same with the MOBO as well.
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February 24, 2012 3:22:22 PM

Are you just spending money on the highest end stuff possible or an extreme enthusaist?

When you say xfire and sli do you only mean 2 cards or possible 3 or 4? This would really be the only reason I'd see lga2011 being worth it. This is a very high end board/socket that really will not give you performance increase that you are shelling out a ton of cash for.

Gaming requires 8gb of ram..another reason I see lga2011 not being worth it.

If you wanna shell some cash out spend it on at least a fully modular seasonic platnium psu. this will be money well spent.

IMO overkill/ not worth the price/performance for gaming/school work/browsing lmao. (unless you just are an oc'er)

Much better off just getting a i5 2500k and waiting for ivy bridge to see what it holds.

Case is good if you plan on doing this build..
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February 24, 2012 3:23:15 PM

azeem40 said:
NEVER use more than 8gb for games, EVER. most games only use 4-6gb and 8gb is the sweet spot. Same with i7. Hyperthreading is not gonna be utilized for gaming for many many years. Save the big amount of cash for a SB system. Same with the MOBO as well.


Yes while that is true on an X79 setup with the dedicated quad channel RAM you need four sticks in order to properly function as opposed to 2. So that is a just setup.

Everything looks good - my only recommendations would be to watch the heat sinks on the RAM.

The case is kind of overkill - the Obsidian is huge and expensive and it's actually meant to be a server case (hence the hot-swappable hard drives). You might want to take a look at the Carbide 500R which would be more suited to your build: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternately check out the Cosmos II if your board is XL-ATX form factor - some X79 boards use that form factor and that won't mix well with the Obsidian 800D:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or the Rosewill Thor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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When you say xfire and sli do you only mean 2 cards or possible 3 or 4? This would really be the only reason I'd see lga2011 being worth it. This is a very high end board/socket that really will not give you performance increase that you are shelling out a ton of cash for.


Two cards for Radeon are called "Crossfire", multiple cards for NVIDIA are called "SLI". The main reason where LGA2011 would come in handy is that unlike SB, SB-E will support PCI-3.0 natively out of the box without an upgrade, which is required to run the Radeon 7970 at full speed.

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Much better off just getting a i5 2500k and waiting for ivy bridge to see what it holds.


Ivy Bridge is not going to be what everyone thinks it is. SB-E is where Intel's future is going to lie, after Ivy, Z68 and the new Z77 are going to be dead-ends. Intel's pretty committed to X79 and we'll start seeing lots of new CPUs being released for it within the next year - year and a half.
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February 24, 2012 3:29:24 PM

2 AMD GPUs are Crossfired; 3 is TriFire; and 4 is Quadfire.
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February 24, 2012 3:45:17 PM

hotthree said:
Are you just spending money on the highest end stuff possible or an extreme enthusaist?

When you say xfire and sli do you only mean 2 cards or possible 3 or 4? This would really be the only reason I'd see lga2011 being worth it. This is a very high end board/socket that really will not give you performance increase that you are shelling out a ton of cash for.

Gaming requires 8gb of ram..another reason I see lga2011 not being worth it.

If you wanna shell some cash out spend it on at least a fully modular seasonic platnium psu. this will be money well spent.

IMO overkill/ not worth the price/performance for gaming/school work/browsing lmao. (unless you just are an oc'er)

Much better off just getting a i5 2500k and waiting for ivy bridge to see what it holds.

Case is good if you plan on doing this build..



2 7970's for sure, I might add a third in the future.
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February 24, 2012 4:11:48 PM

Synn said:
2 7970's for sure, I might add a third in the future.


Have you read the 7970 CF reviews ? I don't think that I'd buy two CF 79xx cards at this point in time given the issues with many current games. Both camps have issues with newer games when they come out but a lotta the problematic ones with the 79xx series are rather old games. I'm not saying don't get a 7970....Im saying ya might wanna wait on the 2nd one till ya see how CF shakes out.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-...

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The past year if you have read up in our forums, AMD's Radeon team has been a step too slow with driver support. While there are monthly updates and hotfixes titles like Rage and Skyrim have been plagued by driver bugs, especially in Crossfire modes. It took AMD weeks to fix. When you drop 60 EUR on game you want to be able to play it on release day, period.

When we relate that to our test suite with CrossfireX in mind AMD did not return with a homerun either. We had some issues, COD MW2 had a negative scaling issue, Anno 1404 refused to scale properly below 1920x1200 (though that one might have been the one title severely CPU limited) and Dirt 2 showed massive graphics corruption. We inserted Anno 1404 but didn't even bother with the other two titles hence I did not include them in the benchmark session.

The flipside of the coin however is that all other titles behaved well and performed beautifully, really. However the high-level 0-day game driver support needs to improve. On a recent AMD event we talked about this with AMD Radeon developers, and we have been assured that starting 2012 more people are added to the driver development team, to be able to guarantee you much better game support when the game is actually released. Good news is that the latest drivers also support manual creation of multi-GPU game profiles, allowing you to enable Crossfire yourself, if AMD has not fixed it. But well, this somewhat sore topic remains open and we'll follow it closely. It is however the risk you take with multi-GPU gaming, that goes for GeForce cards versus drivers as well albeit it seems to be better managed in camp NVIDIA.


I would say that I would never to tri-fire or quad-fire...... AMD seems to have gotten their CF issues worked out (albeit not as yet w/ the 79xx series) wit two cards but 3 and 4 cards has always proved to be a place most don't wanna go.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-cross...

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We've been dealing with CrossfireX reviews ever since the beginning and surely a lot has changed over the years. The one recommendation we always gave you guys is to keep it simple at 2 GPUs maximum, as after 2 GPUs in a CrossfireX setup you quickly run into weird anomalies that can be irritating....

So over the years Multi-GPU support has improved quite a bit, AMD still isn't up-to snuff at the level of NVIDIA though, multi-GPU supports still literally and directly remains the Achilles heel of ATI's Catalyst drivers. For years now we have been requesting user-based multi-GPU profiles. See when a new game comes out, multi-GPU support will not be supported by the Catalyst driver. ATI will always need to update this through drivers or downloadable profiles......

So let's round things up, personally we always say stick to one or maybe two high-end cards as there is so much less driver fuzz to worry about. It's like this with ATI, once you pass 2 GPUs you'll often find yourself compromising a lot with new game titles versus multi-GPU support......


Just to be clear, I'm not very excited about tri-SLI and Quad-SLI as the return on investment is too small. Though nVidia gets kudos for much better mulkti driver support and faster two 580's give ya 953 fps and 3 of em gets ya just 57 more fps at 1030 .... an increase of a measly 8 %.
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February 24, 2012 4:14:52 PM

If I was gonna spend close to $300 on a case, the only case it would be is the Level 10 GT Snow. The way they handle the case window fan alone is worth $50 to me.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14660AC3062&v...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

The power supply is going to be undersized for a 3rd or 4th GFX card.

I'd be using a Phanteks PH-TC14PE or Thermalright Silver Arrow .... personally not a fan of the H series coolers (noise).

Agreed most games won't use more than 8 GB but to imply it hurts performance would be silly. If ya potential uses include CAD, Rendering, video editing or like apps, then 16GB or more would be highly recommended. Using faster speed and lower CAS also helps much in those situations. While the popular assumption that faster speed or lower CAS has no impact on gaming is certainly false, it is true that the effect is small, generally on the order of 2 - 5%.

I'd suggest getting two now and if ya think ya need it, get two later:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit...|20-233-186^20-233-186-TS%2C20-233-199^20-233-199-TS%2C20-233-196^20-233-196-TS

Whatever ya get don't get any with the tall toothy heat sinks, their only cooling effect they have is "looking cool"

As for the SSD, the Chronos is a great choice .... I'd look on buy day to see what's cheapest from any of the tier 1 units ..... or the Intel 520 which isn't listed yet

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-review-benchmar...

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Tier 1
Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240 GB
OCZ Vertex 3 Max IOPS 240 GB
Patriot WildFire 240 GB
Samsung 830 SSD 256 GB


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-520-sandforce-r...

For the HD in a machine of this caliber, I'd be using these:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
http://www.directcanada.com/search/?kw=ST33000651AS

As for the GFX, the only thing I'll say is 81 cents per frame is a bit extreme ...... unless bragging rights are on the line, I can't see spending that kinda dough. Just for something to look at here's how the current cards on the market shake up.

Guru3D uses the following games in their test suite, COD-MW, Bad Company 2, Dirt 2, Far Cry 2, Metro 2033, Dawn of Discovery, Crysis Warhead. Total fps (summing fps in each game @ 1920 x 1200) for the various options in parenthesis (single card / SL or CF) are tabulated below along with their cost in dollars per frame single card - CF or SLI:

$ 160.00 6870 (434/701) $ 0.37 - $ 0.46
$ 220.00 6950 (479/751) $ 0.46 - $ 0.59
$ 240.00 6950 Frozr OC (484/759) $ 0.50 - $ 0.63
$ 205.00 560 Ti (455/792) $ 0.45 - $ 0.52
$ 320.00 6970 (526/825) $ 0.61 - $ 0.78
$ 205.00 560 Ti - 900 Mhz (495/862) $ 0.41 - $ 0.48
$ 340.00 570 (524/873) $ 0.65 - $ 0.78
$ 500.00 580 (616/953) $ 0.81 - $ 1.05
$ 725.00 6990 (762/903) $ 0.95 - $ 1.61
$ 750.00 590 (881/982) $ 0.85 - $ 1.53
$ 450.00 7950 (603/NG*) $ 0.75 - ERR
$ 550.00 7970 (675/NG*) $ 0.81 - ERR

* did not complete substantial number of game sin test suite....should be resolved w/ driver updates in upcoming months.

For example, I could spend $1,000 on two 580's ($1.05 per frame) and get 953 fps ..... or I could get 85% of that performance with twin 900 Mhz 560 Ti's (862 fps) for just 41 % of that cost. I'm OK with 90% at that point.

I could spend $640 on twin 6970's ($.78 per frame) and get 825 fps ..... or I could get 90% of that performance with twin 6870's (701 fps) for just 50 % of that cost. Not as dramatic as above but I'm OK with that too.
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February 24, 2012 4:16:07 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
If I was gonna spend close to $300 on a case, the only case it would be is the Level 10 GT Snow. The way they handle the case window fan alone is worth $50 to me.

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=14660AC3062&v...


I am personally not a fan of the Level 10 - I think it's ridiculously overrated, I'd go for the Cosmos II if I were spending that much on a case.
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February 24, 2012 4:52:21 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I am personally not a fan of the Level 10 - I think it's ridiculously overrated, I'd go for the Cosmos II if I were spending that much on a case.


Which one ? I agree on the very expensive thing that was $800 but as I said....a case door fan that I can leave in place when removing the window and not have a wire dangling across the hinge is worth a lot to me. Not many cases can claim list of features that includes fan speed switches, eATX capability, extensive cooling options, acoustics, hot swappable drive bays, SATA power backplane, best cable management I have seen, locking window and drive bays, 6 front USB ports (2 of which are USB 3), headphone rack, air filters, carrying handle and option to have LED's o or off....and that wonderful thing they did w/ the case window fan power.

Case choices depends much on aesthetics and features that may or may not be important to specific individuals, but I've gotta go w/ Benchmarkreviews here:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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Cosmos II - 8.8 out of 10

Pros:Quality Recognition: Benchmark Reviews Silver Tachometer Award

+ Styling makes "all black" look good
+ Accomodates XL-ATX motherboards and lots of 3.5" drives
+ Excellent cable management...except for the fan controller
+ Auto-ejecting, key-lockable hot swap drive bays
+ 2x120 and 3x120 radiator mounting points
+ Intgegrated quad-channel fan controller handles up to 9 LED-lit fans
Cons:

- Very large. Very heavy. Very expensive.
- Only three 5.25" bays
- Tangled mass of fan controller wiring difficult to deal with
- Front-hinged doors look dramatic but obstruct interior of case when working from the front
- Hey. Where's my SATA backplane?
- Will not lie flat on its side


http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...

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Level 10 GT: Final Score: 9.55 out of 10

Pros:Benchmark Reviews Golden Tachometer Award

+ Outstanding Cable Management
+ Three adjustable 200mm fans and a 140mm fan included
+ Filters on all intake fans
+ USB 3.0 ports and a total of 6 USB ports
+ Hot-Swappable internal drive bays
+ Locks for the side door and drive bays
+ Handle for ease in carrying
+ LEDs add to the cool look
Cons:

- A little heavy
- Drive bay locking mechanism is finicky
- Price could be considered expensive
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February 24, 2012 5:13:25 PM

If you really want to waste that much money just wait for Kepler and ivy. For now keep what you have.
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February 24, 2012 6:32:43 PM

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Which one ? I agree on the very expensive thing that was $800 but as I said....a case door fan that I can leave in place when removing the window and not have a wire dangling across the hinge is worth a lot to me. Not many cases can claim list of features that includes fan speed switches, eATX capability, extensive cooling options, acoustics, hot swappable drive bays, SATA power backplane, best cable management I have seen, locking window and drive bays, 6 front USB ports (2 of which are USB 3), headphone rack, air filters, carrying handle and option to have LED's o or off....and that wonderful thing they did w/ the case window fan power.


I do agree there because I had a cheapo Apevia case that lacked things like front and top ventilation, wires everywhere, and the door eventually fell off. I really like the slick design of the Cosmos II and the neat features it has like the motorized door and the massive amounts of drive bays. Sure, the Level 10 has a lot of great features for the price but I've never liked the looks of it - to me the case is one of the most important aspects of building your own PC and I generally tend to choose my cases carefully. I know case choice is a lot of aesthetics and personal preference but I have general criteria for selecting a case (and other components) and if it doesn't meet that criteria I tend to not recommend it for that reason.

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If you really want to waste that much money just wait for Kepler and ivy. For now keep what you have.


Seriously - the people who keep saying "Wait for Ivy and Kepler" I think are going to be really disappointed. After the fiasco with AMD and their FX line of CPUs, I'm not telling anyone to wait until there's actual numbers and you can see where the performance stands against SB and SB-E. The fact that a dual core $70 Pentium G620 outperforms the $250 octo-core FX-8150 is really telling and while it's not an indicator of things to come, I think it says a lot about what future CPUs will bring.
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February 24, 2012 6:54:54 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
carrying handle
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I hope you don't plan on carrying the lvl 10...You'll look like the hulk after 1 year. 50lbs w/o hardware. I see all the accessories that the lvl 10 uses as gimmicks to get people to buy. Most if not all are just added extra wires/plastic stuff inside my case.

And yes if i am going to spend 300 on a case im going for top of the line cooler master cosmos or silverstone/lian li.

Thermaltake is usually cheap build quality. I give them props they definitely used higher quality items in this case but look what it did. $300+ price tag.

All I want to say is save $200 even $100 and get a much more stylish functional case.

But if you got money to burn do not let me stop you!

(also x79 may be the chipset of the future but if anything holds true it'll be gone after 2-3 releases, meaning another upgrade) I just think x79 is a waste considering he's gonna be playing games, browsing, word) save 500-1000 bucks and buy a tv or w/e else you can blow money on.

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February 24, 2012 6:59:02 PM

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Thermaltake is usually cheap build quality. I give them props they definitely used higher quality items in this case but look what it did. $300+ price tag.


Absolutely I agree there - We've used a lot of Thermaltake cases where I work and we eventually quit buying them because they were so cheaply made. Now if I could just get them to stop buying the other junk brands we use like Apevia, Raidmax, Xion, Xclio, Ultra... :lol: 

If I'm paying $300 for a case I want something that's solidly constructed and will last forever, not a huge plastic toy. I've seen the Level 10 at Frys in person and when using it the drive holders never aligned properly with the bays they were supposed to go in.
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February 24, 2012 11:30:20 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Have you read the 7970 CF reviews ? I don't think that I'd buy two CF 79xx cards at this point in time given the issues with many current games. Both camps have issues with newer games when they come out but a lotta the problematic ones with the 79xx series are rather old games. I'm not saying don't get a 7970....Im saying ya might wanna wait on the 2nd one till ya see how CF shakes out.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-crossfire-...

Quote:
The past year if you have read up in our forums, AMD's Radeon team has been a step too slow with driver support. While there are monthly updates and hotfixes titles like Rage and Skyrim have been plagued by driver bugs, especially in Crossfire modes. It took AMD weeks to fix. When you drop 60 EUR on game you want to be able to play it on release day, period.

When we relate that to our test suite with CrossfireX in mind AMD did not return with a homerun either. We had some issues, COD MW2 had a negative scaling issue, Anno 1404 refused to scale properly below 1920x1200 (though that one might have been the one title severely CPU limited) and Dirt 2 showed massive graphics corruption. We inserted Anno 1404 but didn't even bother with the other two titles hence I did not include them in the benchmark session.

The flipside of the coin however is that all other titles behaved well and performed beautifully, really. However the high-level 0-day game driver support needs to improve. On a recent AMD event we talked about this with AMD Radeon developers, and we have been assured that starting 2012 more people are added to the driver development team, to be able to guarantee you much better game support when the game is actually released. Good news is that the latest drivers also support manual creation of multi-GPU game profiles, allowing you to enable Crossfire yourself, if AMD has not fixed it. But well, this somewhat sore topic remains open and we'll follow it closely. It is however the risk you take with multi-GPU gaming, that goes for GeForce cards versus drivers as well albeit it seems to be better managed in camp NVIDIA.


I would say that I would never to tri-fire or quad-fire...... AMD seems to have gotten their CF issues worked out (albeit not as yet w/ the 79xx series) wit two cards but 3 and 4 cards has always proved to be a place most don't wanna go.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-cross...

Quote:
We've been dealing with CrossfireX reviews ever since the beginning and surely a lot has changed over the years. The one recommendation we always gave you guys is to keep it simple at 2 GPUs maximum, as after 2 GPUs in a CrossfireX setup you quickly run into weird anomalies that can be irritating....

So over the years Multi-GPU support has improved quite a bit, AMD still isn't up-to snuff at the level of NVIDIA though, multi-GPU supports still literally and directly remains the Achilles heel of ATI's Catalyst drivers. For years now we have been requesting user-based multi-GPU profiles. See when a new game comes out, multi-GPU support will not be supported by the Catalyst driver. ATI will always need to update this through drivers or downloadable profiles......

So let's round things up, personally we always say stick to one or maybe two high-end cards as there is so much less driver fuzz to worry about. It's like this with ATI, once you pass 2 GPUs you'll often find yourself compromising a lot with new game titles versus multi-GPU support......


Just to be clear, I'm not very excited about tri-SLI and Quad-SLI as the return on investment is too small. Though nVidia gets kudos for much better mulkti driver support and faster two 580's give ya 953 fps and 3 of em gets ya just 57 more fps at 1030 .... an increase of a measly 8 %.


So CF 2x 7970's isn't worth it? What would you suggest then?
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February 24, 2012 11:52:36 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I am personally not a fan of the Level 10 - I think it's ridiculously overrated, I'd go for the Cosmos II if I were spending that much on a case.



Thx the cosmos II looks like a beast, think ill go with that.
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February 25, 2012 1:02:25 AM

two 900MHz 560ti is just most anyone needs it run any game you want on 1080p especially if you get the 2GB version
i have also had two HD 6950 2GB they seem to handle battlefield 3 better than two 560TI

A 1200 machine is all you need to game now
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February 25, 2012 12:58:25 PM

your spending on the parts that solely for those purposes is way too much... spending almost $1200 for cpu, mobo and ram and you won't see the difference vs a $500 combo... at least with your naked eyes... right now quad core still strong for gaming and general usage.... so why spend so much more while not getting the extra performance? i've compiled a list of parts that you can get the performance that you need for much less money... take a look...

cpu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Intel Core i5-2500K - $225

mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 - $190

ram: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 - $50

hsf: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
CORSAIR CAFA70 - $30 after rebate

hdd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB - $130

ssd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Plextor M3 Series PX-256M3 2.5" 256GB - $350

odd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
LG DVD Burner 24X GH24NS70 - $19

psu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W - $130 after rebate

gpu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
GIGABYTE GV-R795WF3-3GD Radeon HD 7950 3GB - $480

case: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237034/RV03B-WA/Silve...
Silverstone RV03B-WA - $134


total: $1738 after rebate excluding shipping....

notes*

* if you keen on going for lga 2011 platform... even if you're eventually configuring multi-gpu setups... it won't benefit much better than lga 1155...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-s...

* even a i5 2500k + z68 + gtx 580 sli is going to offer almost the same performance
as the much more expensive 3930k + x79....

* one more thing... although you already stated that you're going to buy 800d.... given that the price that needs to pay for... that case is more suited for water cooling build... as for air-cooled pc... the raven 3 that i've listed above it's more up for the job... not to mention it is cheaper as well.... i know the case's design and looks are quite odd... and maybe look ugly to you as well... but it has great cooling potential... here's the review....

http://www.chiphell.com/en/case/silverstone-rv03-review...

* since we're approaching march.... i would like to suggest you buy everything else but the graphics card... i did listed a hd 7950 in case you really can't wait... it's not that amd isn't good... but their current pricing on hd 7900 series... without any competition so far from nvidia... seems a little bit too high in my opinion...
and since nvidia is going to release its next generation series kepler gpu sometime in march-april... if the infos leaked on the web is true... then we might have an nvidia cards that ended up faster than gtx 580 and hd 7950... and possibly going head to head with hd 7970 at $350 to $400 price range... this make it cheaper than hd 7900 series... may eventually drive price down for amd gpu.... since the time so close... it might be worth to wait... here's some sources those infos came from...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-geforce-gtx-670...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GK104-Ge...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-cards-productio...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-geforce-gtx680-...


* 16gb ram is way too much for gaming... 8gb is the sweet spot... 16 won't make any difference... at least in your case...
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^ It looks good, but I do not recommend low voltage RAM. 1.5v is exactly the voltage you need to get for SB and i5-2500k. 1.25v and SB don't mix well.
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February 25, 2012 6:49:45 PM

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your spending on the parts that solely for those purposes is way too much... spending almost $1200 for cpu, mobo and ram and you won't see the difference vs a $500 combo... at least with your naked eyes... right now quad core still strong for gaming and general usage.... so why spend so much more while not getting the extra performance? i've compiled a list of parts that you can get the performance that you need for much less money... take a look...

cpu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
Intel Core i5-2500K - $225

mobo: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
ASUS P8Z68-V/GEN3 - $190

ram: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
G.SKILL Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 - $50

hsf: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...
CORSAIR CAFA70 - $30 after rebate

hdd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB - $130

ssd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
Plextor M3 Series PX-256M3 2.5" 256GB - $350

odd: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...
LG DVD Burner 24X GH24NS70 - $19

psu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 950W - $130 after rebate

gpu: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...
GIGABYTE GV-R795WF3-3GD Radeon HD 7950 3GB - $480

case: http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237034/RV03B-WA/Silve...
Silverstone RV03B-WA - $134


total: $1738 after rebate excluding shipping....

notes*

* if you keen on going for lga 2011 platform... even if you're eventually configuring multi-gpu setups... it won't benefit much better than lga 1155...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-s...

* even a i5 2500k + z68 + gtx 580 sli is going to offer almost the same performance
as the much more expensive 3930k + x79....

* one more thing... although you already stated that you're going to buy 800d.... given that the price that needs to pay for... that case is more suited for water cooling build... as for air-cooled pc... the raven 3 that i've listed above it's more up for the job... not to mention it is cheaper as well.... i know the case's design and looks are quite odd... and maybe look ugly to you as well... but it has great cooling potential... here's the review....

http://www.chiphell.com/en/case/silverstone-rv03-review...

* since we're approaching march.... i would like to suggest you buy everything else but the graphics card... i did listed a hd 7950 in case you really can't wait... it's not that amd isn't good... but their current pricing on hd 7900 series... without any competition so far from nvidia... seems a little bit too high in my opinion...
and since nvidia is going to release its next generation series kepler gpu sometime in march-april... if the infos leaked on the web is true... then we might have an nvidia cards that ended up faster than gtx 580 and hd 7950... and possibly going head to head with hd 7970 at $350 to $400 price range... this make it cheaper than hd 7900 series... may eventually drive price down for amd gpu.... since the time so close... it might be worth to wait... here's some sources those infos came from...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-geforce-gtx-670...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Nvidia-Kepler-GK104-Ge...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-cards-productio...

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-kepler-gk104-geforce-gtx680-...


* 16gb ram is way too much for gaming... 8gb is the sweet spot... 16 won't make any difference... at least in your case...



I was going to go with the i5 before but i just wanted to get something recent just so i'm somewhat "future-proof" so incase something new were to come out i rather have the components that can handle it.
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February 26, 2012 4:06:18 AM

come on guys if he has money to burn for luxary and is willing then y stop.....

Op i understand ur feelings a killer machine is all u want to last for ever ie futureproofing
but no hardware lasts a long time u know even i wanted a killer machine and i made it just before sb release of 2k and a sb system which cost half and is twice as fast

i would highly recomend ive bridge and kepler because they are gonna drive prices down

if u wish to make ur build now then this is what i recomend

intel i5 2500k
corsair h100
asus maximus iv gene or extreme z
xfx 7950 black edition
asus br drive
wd carvier black 1tb
samsung 830 128 gb or m4 120 gb
cm cosmos ii or corsair 600t white edition
seasonic 1050 w 80+ plus platinum

all premium parts

good enjoy ur build :) 

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February 26, 2012 4:12:12 AM

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Which one ? I agree on the very expensive thing that was $800 but as I said....a case door fan that I can leave in place when removing the window and not have a wire dangling across the hinge is worth a lot to me. Not many cases can claim list of features that includes fan speed switches, eATX capability, extensive cooling options, acoustics, hot swappable drive bays, SATA power backplane, best cable management I have seen, locking window and drive bays, 6 front USB ports (2 of which are USB 3), headphone rack, air filters, carrying handle and option to have LED's o or off....and that wonderful thing they did w/ the case window fan power.


I do agree there because I had a cheapo Apevia case that lacked things like front and top ventilation, wires everywhere, and the door eventually fell off. I really like the slick design of the Cosmos II and the neat features it has like the motorized door and the massive amounts of drive bays. Sure, the Level 10 has a lot of great features for the price but I've never liked the looks of it - to me the case is one of the most important aspects of building your own PC and I generally tend to choose my cases carefully. I know case choice is a lot of aesthetics and personal preference but I have general criteria for selecting a case (and other components) and if it doesn't meet that criteria I tend to not recommend it for that reason.

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If you really want to waste that much money just wait for Kepler and ivy. For now keep what you have.


Seriously - the people who keep saying "Wait for Ivy and Kepler" I think are going to be really disappointed. After the fiasco with AMD and their FX line of CPUs, I'm not telling anyone to wait until there's actual numbers and you can see where the performance stands against SB and SB-E. The fact that a dual core $70 Pentium G620 outperforms the $250 octo-core FX-8150 is really telling and while it's not an indicator of things to come, I think it says a lot about what future CPUs will bring.

That was AMD, and AMD has been complete tards in the last 5+ years in regards to desktop cpu's. I figured BD would tank just by looking at AMD's track record lately.

Ivy Bridge though... 22nm and PCI-E 3.0. In theory those cpu's should run cooler, use less juice, and o/c better than Sandy Bridge...and that says a lot right there.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Inside-the-Intel... <----- good article on it here.
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February 26, 2012 7:01:58 AM

xSynn said:
I was going to go with the i5 before but i just wanted to get something recent just so i'm somewhat "future-proof" so incase something new were to come out i rather have the components that can handle it.



here... read this....

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5174/why-ivy-bridge-is-st...

read this and maybe you'll know why quad core is still a decent choice.... by the time consumer applications playing catch up and utilises more than 4 threads.... intel and amd already come up with something which will be even more efficient... faster per core performance six core/eight core desktop processor... which will eventually faster than current sandy bridge e platform....
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