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Need advice on HD6870 vs GTX 560.

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December 26, 2011 6:58:29 PM

Hi!

I recently decided that my old system needs an overhaul, and i have everything planned out except for the graphics card.

So far this is my list:

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
CPU: Intel i5 2500K
RAM: Corsair Dominator DHX DDR3 1333MHz 8GB

I've come to the conclusion that these are pretty decent parts for my budget, but any input is appriciated!

After reading a bunch of reviews and checking benchmarks, I am having trouble deciding on the GPU tho.

My budget is around 140 GBP / 230 USD, but do keep in mind that i am from Denmark, and prices here might be slighly different.
I am looking to play an assortment of games at 1920x1200 (Skyrim, Batman: Arkham City and such).

Right now I'm really keen on the ASUS Radeon HD6870 1GB GDDR5. It is right on the budget i mentioned above, and to me it seems like great value.
ASUS Radeon HD6870 1GB

The direct contender seems to be the ASUS Geforce GTX 560 1GB, and this card also comes in right on budget (slightly cheaper than the Radeon card).
ASUS Geforce GTX 560 1GB


The budget is not set in stone. I am willing to go over by maybe 40-50 USD if it can buy me a substantial performance increase.

Any input is welcome!

Thanks!

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a b U Graphics card
December 26, 2011 7:45:01 PM

The GTX card is within a few percent. These two cards are very good competitors and there is no wrong decision. Couple things to keep in mind:

1) Brand preference is ok
2) GTX cards provide Physx (does physics calculations in a handful of games that feature the option and is pretty cool)
3) AMD has better multi-monitor support (for 3 monitors on a single card)

I'd honestly refrain from recommending one above the other since they're priced the same.
a c 171 U Graphics card
December 26, 2011 8:00:40 PM

This is a bit like asking if you should buy energizer or Duracell batteries. (or whatever you use over in Denmark.) As you said, "direct competitor", so one really isn't better then the other.

With that in mind, I'd pick the GTX560. You said it was slightly cheaper then the Radeon, so why pay more for similar performance? You also mentioned Skyrim and Batman:AC. I think Skyrim runs better on Nvidia cards (SLI does at least.) and with Batman:AC you can use PhysX. (AA has it, I'm assuming AC does as well.) In your case the GTX560 makes a (tiny) bit more sense.
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December 26, 2011 8:06:04 PM

I usually prefer Nvidia cards because of better drivers, Cuba and 3D-Vision. If you could stretch your budget the 560 Ti and than 560 Ti / 560 Ti 448 core provide better performance per dollar run a little higher. (30$ more for TI, 70$ more for 448 Core) but the Ti is about 20% faster and the 448 core is about 40% faster depending on how you your monitor settings.
a c 106 U Graphics card
December 26, 2011 8:36:37 PM

I say 6870 :D . If you want a 3d monitor or really like PhysX then go with the 560.
December 27, 2011 7:20:39 AM

4745454b said:
This is a bit like asking if you should buy energizer or Duracell batteries. (or whatever you use over in Denmark.) As you said, "direct competitor", so one really isn't better then the other.

With that in mind, I'd pick the GTX560. You said it was slightly cheaper then the Radeon, so why pay more for similar performance? You also mentioned Skyrim and Batman:AC. I think Skyrim runs better on Nvidia cards (SLI does at least.) and with Batman:AC you can use PhysX. (AA has it, I'm assuming AC does as well.) In your case the GTX560 makes a (tiny) bit more sense.


Thanks to everyone for the great advice!

Pretty much everyone seems to agree that the GTX560 is the better choice (or the 560TI if i can convince myself to shell out a little more).

The last time i upgraded my graphics (I'm currently running a HD4870), the Radeon series were pretty much king of the "sweet spot" (optimal price/performance). It seems like Nvidia are very competetive this time around, and i think I'll go with a Geforce card.
a c 171 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 7:26:29 AM

The fact your in Denmark might have something to do with that. Usually its the Radeon cards that are cheaper. Assuming the Radeon was cheaper I'd buy that one. I don't play any games that use PhysX.

BTW, the GTX560 usually OCs better then the 6870. Another reason to buy that card.
December 27, 2011 8:15:22 AM

The fact your in Denmark might have something to do with that. Usually its the Radeon cards that are cheaper. Assuming the Radeon was cheaper I'd buy that one. I don't play any games that use PhysX.

BTW, the GTX560 usually OCs better then the 6870. Another reason to buy that card.[/quotemsg]

Thank you for helping me make this decision!

One last thing:

On the site I'm looking at, there is another edition of the GTX 560, also by ASUS.
(The URL code is giving me trouble, so you will have to do with this:) 
http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635208

Is there any idea in ordering one of these? Its around 40 USD more expensive then the first GTX560 i posted. Im worried that the big-ass cooler might not warrant what i fear is only a minor performance difference. Also, at that price i suspect i can find a 560TI instead.

Thank you again. I hope to put in my order later this afternoon :-)
December 27, 2011 8:23:04 AM

nobel said:
The fact your in Denmark might have something to do with that. Usually its the Radeon cards that are cheaper. Assuming the Radeon was cheaper I'd buy that one. I don't play any games that use PhysX.

BTW, the GTX560 usually OCs better then the 6870. Another reason to buy that card.


Thank you for helping me make this decision!

One last thing:

On the site I'm looking at, there is another edition of the GTX 560, also by ASUS.
(The URL code is giving me trouble, so you will have to do with this:) 
http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635208

Is there any idea in ordering one of these? Its around 40 USD more expensive then the first GTX560 i posted. Im worried that the big-ass cooler might not warrant what i fear is only a minor performance difference. Also, at that price i suspect i can find a 560TI instead.

Thank you again. I hope to put in my order later this afternoon :-)[/quotemsg]

The 560Ti that amuffin posted has superior cooling compared to the asus that you posted, because of the twin frozr design MSI uses. I don't think anyone has asked you this yet, but what type of PSU do you have? Just so we know you can actually use these. :p 
a c 92 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 8:24:07 AM

I'd get the 560 if its cheaper. the 2 cards basically are equal. But I do like AMD cards this gen cause of lower power consumption generally.
a c 171 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 8:32:56 AM

Don't play games that use PhysX? Batman:AC doesn't use PhysX?
December 27, 2011 8:33:11 AM

bcmonks said:
Thank you for helping me make this decision!

One last thing:

On the site I'm looking at, there is another edition of the GTX 560, also by ASUS.
(The URL code is giving me trouble, so you will have to do with this:) 
http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=635208

Is there any idea in ordering one of these? Its around 40 USD more expensive then the first GTX560 i posted. Im worried that the big-ass cooler might not warrant what i fear is only a minor performance difference. Also, at that price i suspect i can find a 560TI instead.

Thank you again. I hope to put in my order later this afternoon :-)


The 560Ti that amuffin posted has superior cooling compared to the asus that you posted, because of the twin frozr design MSI uses. I don't think anyone has asked you this yet, but what type of PSU do you have? Just so we know you can actually use these. :p [/quotemsg]

I'm using a modular Corsair 650 Watt HX. I'm only looking at the ASUS hardware because I have had no problems with them in the past. If you can vouch for the MSI 560TI I'd be willing to give it a shot. The MSI is just about as much as i am willing to spend, so if It's a good card i will go for it.
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 8:34:26 AM

The more expensive Asus card certainly isn't worth it. You could get a Ti for that price.
December 27, 2011 8:34:32 AM

Also, it seems i messed up the post-quotes and its now effecting everyone. I hope you can find your way around the post. It wont let me edit the post :) 
a c 376 U Graphics card
December 27, 2011 8:38:54 AM

The MSI card is good. One of the best brands and possibly the best cooling available.
December 27, 2011 8:42:47 AM

jyjjy said:
The MSI card is good. One of the best brands and possibly the best cooling available.

I agree, Superior cooling indeed.
December 27, 2011 8:58:08 AM

Thanks guys! That's all the convincing i need. I will place my order momentarily. :hello: 
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