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February 25, 2012 10:57:36 PM

I was wondering what parts you think are best for a World of Warcraft Gamer + Video editor?


Approximate Purchase Date: Not Decieded

Budget Range: $1000 After Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: World of Warcraft,Video Editing,Xsplit VideoGame Livestreaming, School papers...

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, and Moniter

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Whatever you reccomend

Country: U.S.

Parts Preferences:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Processor (6M Cache, 3.30 GHz)

Motherboard:
Intel with USB 3.0,and Optical Audio & W/o Onboard Graphics

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: Watercooling Preferred...



Latest Edit: Okay for now ... no watercooling, ~10% OC, and am still open to anything... please try to keep it < $900 WITH MIRs... having a computer shop here help me do Pro. wiring and getting lots of high grade thermal paste FREE! :D 

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February 26, 2012 12:52:57 AM

I would go with a Geforce 560ti, a p67 mobo. Also, you dont need water-cooling,just the case fans will be fine. This gives you an extra $250 for storage and an optical drive.
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February 26, 2012 4:44:34 AM

First off a proper water cooling setup cannot be achieved on a >$1K setup. And I generally advise against water cooling because if a water pipe breaks - there goes your system, and that will void many a warranty if manufacturers find out you've been using water cooling. Air is *ALWAYS* safer and always better for prolonging the life of a system.

Second - why a Raidmax case? This is a brand that produces a lot of flat-out crap - and I know from experience from working with their cases a lot. For an $89 case you can do way better.

Try this for a $1K build:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - $59.99 ($10.00 MIR)
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series TX650 - $89.99 ($10.00 MIR)
Motherboard: Gigabye GA-Z68XP-UD3H - $159.99
CPU: 3.30 GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - $229.99
Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo - $34.99
RAM: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1333MHz 1.5V - $39.99
HD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda ST 7200RPM - $129.99
Optical: LG DVD Burner - $15.99
Video Card: EVGA Geforce GTX 560TI - $249.99 ($10.00 MIR)

Total: $1,016.91 - $30.00 MIR = $986.91
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February 26, 2012 12:47:37 PM

Why would you need the z68 mobo, a p67 would work fine
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February 26, 2012 12:49:55 PM

becasuxe p67 won't allow for overclocking as easy and it is certain that z68 is getting ivybridge
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February 26, 2012 1:03:14 PM

Actually, water cooling is not something to be opposed to. It's for people who has the money and enjoys doing it and you should learn about computers very well before you start installing it. A p67 board overclocks the same as z68 does, but I also agree with g-unit1111 to choose z68 as they cost almost the same as p67 but has more features. g-unit1111 build is pretty solid, and it's perfect for your needs but I would get a more high end air cooler for more overclocking headroom
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February 26, 2012 1:08:35 PM

z68 supports quick sync and helps it for video more than 2 times
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February 26, 2012 5:39:33 PM

samdsox said:
becasuxe p67 won't allow for overclocking as easy and it is certain that z68 is getting ivybridge



That's not true - P67 and Z68 overclock about the same and both will support Ivy Bridge.

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Actually, water cooling is not something to be opposed to. It's for people who has the money and enjoys doing it and you should learn about computers very well before you start installing it. A p67 board overclocks the same as z68 does, but I also agree with g-unit1111 to choose z68 as they cost almost the same as p67 but has more features. g-unit1111 build is pretty solid, and it's perfect for your needs but I would get a more high end air cooler for more overclocking headroom


Certainly nothing wrong with the Hyper 212 Evo - it's an excellent cooler. If you don't want to use that the EVGA M020 is a good choice, but alternately you could check out this article for some great alternate suggestions: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-A...

I really like the Akasa Voodoo Venom and it's ease of installation (no cheap metal clips), I think I'm getting that for my next fan.
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February 26, 2012 5:44:19 PM

OP, how high of an overclock are you looking to do?
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February 26, 2012 6:40:43 PM

azeem40 said:
OP, how high of an overclock are you looking to do?

~10% for now ... until I really need power.
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February 26, 2012 6:43:27 PM

g-unit1111 said:
...Second - why a Raidmax case? This is a brand that produces a lot of flat-out crap - and I know from experience from working with their cases a lot. For an $89 case you can do way better...

The reason for that case is that I wanted something that had all the connections on the front because where it is going to be placed the back is unaccessable without removing the whole system...
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February 26, 2012 6:54:36 PM

awsomdk said:
~10% for now ... until I really need power.

So to 3.6 GHz? In that case, just use Turbo Boost.
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February 26, 2012 6:56:10 PM

samdsox said:
becasuxe p67 won't allow for overclocking as easy and it is certain that z68 is getting ivybridge

There is no difference between a P67 and a Z68 board in regards to over clocking. Any 1155 board whether it be a Z68 or a $65 H61 board will run Ivy Bridge. Only 1155 Gen 3 boards will allow for PCI-E 3.0 boards. The reason the OP should get a Z68 board is because the OP plans on video editing..naturally the HD 3000 graphics come into play along with Quick Sync and Lucid Virtu.

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February 26, 2012 6:57:49 PM

g-unit1111 said:
That's not true - P67 and Z68 overclock about the same and both will support Ivy Bridge.

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Actually, water cooling is not something to be opposed to. It's for people who has the money and enjoys doing it and you should learn about computers very well before you start installing it. A p67 board overclocks the same as z68 does, but I also agree with g-unit1111 to choose z68 as they cost almost the same as p67 but has more features. g-unit1111 build is pretty solid, and it's perfect for your needs but I would get a more high end air cooler for more overclocking headroom


Certainly nothing wrong with the Hyper 212 Evo - it's an excellent cooler. If you don't want to use that the EVGA M020 is a good choice, but alternately you could check out this article for some great alternate suggestions: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/LGA-2011-i7-3960X-A...

I really like the Akasa Voodoo Venom and it's ease of installation (no cheap metal clips), I think I'm getting that for my next fan.

That fan sounds nice... will have to ask the guys at the shop to take a gander at that...

Also I saw your signature... Would it be worth it to get a SSD for HD video LIVE capture? then just transfer it to the 1tb HDD?
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February 26, 2012 6:58:34 PM

awsomdk said:
The reason for that case is that I wanted something that had all the connections on the front because where it is going to be placed the back is unaccessable without removing the whole system...


What connections? Are you talking like the USB/Firewire/Audio? The cases I linked to also have those on the front, are very solidly constructed, and have excellent cable management. A similar (and far, far, far better) choice would be something like Corsair Carbide 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Raidmax is just a brand that is junk - they're a tier 4 or tier 5 case vendor (with Xion, Xclio, Ultra, Apevia, etc). I've used their cases and I have had problems with stuck buttons, bad fans, no air flow, you name it. The system I use for my work PC uses that same case - the HAF 912 and I have the lowest system temps on my network. The systems that use Raidmax and Ultra cases actually have the highest system temps on the network.

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Also I saw your signature... Would it be worth it to get a SSD for HD video LIVE capture? then just transfer it to the 1tb HDD?


Yes - an SSD will dramatically improve your system's read-write times and it will be great for video editing. Use your second and third HDs to store all your larger files and everything else.
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February 26, 2012 7:03:05 PM

Why_Me said:
There is no difference between a P67 and a Z68 board in regards to over clocking. Any 1155 board whether it be a Z68 or a $65 H61 board will run Ivy Bridge. Only 1155 Gen 3 boards will allow for PCI-E 3.0 boards. The reason the OP should get a Z68 board is because the OP plans on video editing..naturally the HD 3000 graphics come into play along with Quick Sync and Lucid Virtu.

@ the OP...check this one out.

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Tower-Case-RC-912-K... $59.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master HAF 912 Mid Tower ATX Case (RC-912-KKN1)

http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-80PLUS-Bronze-Performance-com... $99.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandy Bridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $121.99
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $224.99 FREE SHIPPING
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Hyper-Sleeve-RR-B10... $24.21 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler, RR-B10-212P-G1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $44.99 FREE SHIPPING
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-8GAB

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $124.99 FREE SHIPPING $25 off w/ promo code EMCNHHJ38, ends 2/27
Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD%C2%B1RW-Serial-Intern... $20.99 & eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25
Asus 24xDVD±RW Serial ATA Internal OEM Drive DRW-24B1ST (Black)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $209.99
GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Total: $887.14 *not including shipping and promo codes

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $99.99 FREE SHIPPING
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM



2 things... Do you know of any good cases with USB 3.0 (two of them) on the front...
and what kind of FPS does that GPU get?
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February 26, 2012 7:05:22 PM

g-unit1111 said:
What connections? Are you talking like the USB/Firewire/Audio? The cases I linked to also have those on the front, are very solidly constructed, and have excellent cable management. A similar (and far, far, far better) choice would be something like Corsair Carbide 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Raidmax is just a brand that is junk - they're a tier 4 or tier 5 case vendor (with Xion, Xclio, Ultra, Apevia, etc). I've used their cases and I have had problems with stuck buttons, bad fans, no air flow, you name it. The system I use for my work PC uses that same case - the HAF 912 and I have the lowest system temps on my network. The systems that use Raidmax and Ultra cases actually have the highest system temps on the network.

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Also I saw your signature... Would it be worth it to get a SSD for HD video LIVE capture? then just transfer it to the 1tb HDD?


Yes - an SSD will dramatically improve your system's read-write times and it will be great for video editing. Use your second and third HDs to store all your larger files and everything else.


Sounds great! I think i will have to get all of these parts ordered... just one thing... Do you know of cases that have usb 3.0 on front... getting a GAME recorder (USB3.0 only...) for ps3 (Also the reason for SSD)
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February 26, 2012 7:13:52 PM

awsomdk said:
2 things... Do you know of any good cases with USB 3.0 (two of them) on the front...
and what kind of FPS does that GPU get?

If you want front 3.0 USB ports and not just the two standard ones in the rear then look at a board with a front USB header like the Asus V Gen 3 for around $190. For a case with the front 3.0 USB headers then look at the Corsair 400R or the Cooler Master Storm Enforcer.

As far as that gtx 560 ti and FPS...google some reviews for the gtx 560 ti. Some have better cooling than others which allows for better over clocking with those cards. That particular Gigabyte card I linked has good cooling...dual fan, etc... Google some reviews w/benchmarks for your resolution.
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February 26, 2012 7:18:16 PM

I vote for MSI 560ti twin frozr II if you want the best cooling and overclocking headroom. It's not that expensive from a reference 560ti
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February 26, 2012 7:24:25 PM

Why_Me said:
If you want front 3.0 USB ports and not just the two standard ones in the rear then look at a board with a front USB header like the Asus V Gen 3 for around $190. For a case with the front 3.0 USB headers then look at the Corsair 400R or the Cooler Master Storm Enforcer.

As far as that gtx 560 ti and FPS...google some reviews for the gtx 560 ti. Some have better cooling than others which allows for better over clocking with those cards. That particular Gigabyte card I linked has good cooling...dual fan, etc... Google some reviews w/benchmarks for your resolution.

I am gonna run at 1080p even though my screen is higher res. so any card should have no problem on high with that card...

PRICE UPDATE...

$145.19
+$923.21
$1068.40
should I just get a mid grade SSD and use my old cheep HHD?
Without HHD with SSD
$145.19
+$890.43
=$1035.62
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February 26, 2012 10:01:46 PM

awsomdk said:
Sounds great! I think i will have to get all of these parts ordered... just one thing... Do you know of cases that have usb 3.0 on front... getting a GAME recorder (USB3.0 only...) for ps3 (Also the reason for SSD)


Yes - the Carbide I linked to does have front USB 3.0 ports. The HAF 912 doesn't but you can order a front-mounted bracket from Cooler Master for like an extra $15.

The other option is the Fractal Design Arc MIDI and that's an excellent choice as well: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 26, 2012 11:17:02 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I'm not the biggest fan of Rosewill but a lot of people here seem to like it. It's certainly a way better choice than anything Raidmax makes.

It was one of the only ones that got me nearer my $900 goal while still keeping front USB 3.0...
where else do you think I could cut corners on price?
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February 27, 2012 1:01:15 AM

Latest build ideas...

SSD:
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $94.99

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $224.99

Motherboard:
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99

RAM:
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory $44.99

Case:
Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99

GPU:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB $114.78

Optical drive:
Asus 24xDVD±RW $20.99

CPU fan:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler (PRICE DROP) $24.31

Power Supply:
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply $99.99

$260.07
+$554.95
=$815.02

then the labor and shipping :p 
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February 27, 2012 1:13:22 AM

awsomdk said:
Latest build ideas...

SSD:
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $94.99

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $224.99

Motherboard:
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99

RAM:
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory $44.99

Case:
Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99

GPU:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB $114.78

Optical drive:
Asus 24xDVD±RW $20.99

CPU fan:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler (PRICE DROP) $24.31

Power Supply:
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply $99.99

$260.07
+$554.95
=$815.02

then the labor and shipping :p 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $84.99 FREE SHIPPING
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR60GB 2.5" 60GB SATA III Asynchronous MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
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February 27, 2012 3:42:51 AM

awsomdk said:
Latest build ideas...

SSD:
Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CT040G3K5 2.5" 40GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $94.99

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $224.99

Motherboard:
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $129.99

RAM:
G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory $44.99

Case:
Rosewill CHALLENGER-U3 Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $59.99

GPU:
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB $114.78

Optical drive:
Asus 24xDVD±RW $20.99

CPU fan:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler (PRICE DROP) $24.31

Power Supply:
OCZ ZS Series 750W 80PLUS Bronze High Performance Power Supply $99.99

$260.07
+$554.95
=$815.02

then the labor and shipping :p 


Surely you could add at least a 6870 or 560ti to replace the 550ti. It's not powerful enough to run the latest title at 1080p with high detail and 4xAA.
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February 27, 2012 4:19:28 AM

awsomdk said:
It was one of the only ones that got me nearer my $900 goal while still keeping front USB 3.0...
where else do you think I could cut corners on price?


Well for starters I would not get a 40GB SSD as your primary (and an outdated one at that). Especially when you take into account that formatting takes 10% of your drive's space, a full Windows install takes 16GB, and games can take anywhere from 8GB (Skyrim) to 16GB (Portal 2) to 25GB (BF3). You won't have much room for anything else. Go with a 500GB Western Digital Blue drive and then add the SSD later on. The HAF 912 comes with an adapter for SSDs and makes adding them really easy.

If you want to save money you could drop the fan and downgrade your CPU to the Core i5-2400 - you'll save $100 there. I would not get a 550TI as your GPU - it's not a good choice. The Radeon 6850 is a far safer bet in the ~$150 range.
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February 27, 2012 6:08:23 AM

Yep, the 550ti sucks. It is on par with the 6770. Either a GTX 460 or a 6850 would be better, although 6850 runs a lot coooler.
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March 1, 2012 9:32:21 PM

g-unit1111 said:
...If you want to save money you could drop the fan and downgrade your CPU to the Core i5-2400 - you'll save $100 there...


Urmmm... Unless the price just changed that is a $40 difference.
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March 2, 2012 12:43:32 AM

If you want to stick with the 2500K instead of the 2400, go ahead. I would recommend the same so that you can overclock your cpu and avoid bottlenecks with graphics card or game in the future(Note: Not exactly sure for how long since the technologies keep changing). But still, i would suggest getting something better than a 550ti. If you dont't know what to pick right away, maybe you could skip the video card and wait for AMD radeon 7800 series coming out this month then make your choice
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March 5, 2012 11:06:05 AM

Best answer selected by awsomdk.
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